Ethnic cleansing in Eastern Europe - when will the United Nations declare this a genocide?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How can the world get these pictures to Russians? No commentary - maybe captions just stating the basics. Some of these photos are like the napalm photo from Vietnam or the prisoners or Auschwitz or Jonestown aftermath or Rwanda. Massacre. If you have a heart, it breaks . They say it all. The people of Russia need to see what "they" are doing.

Were you born yesterday? Listen to the Twitter video posted above. The Russian people don’t care.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can the world get these pictures to Russians? No commentary - maybe captions just stating the basics. Some of these photos are like the napalm photo from Vietnam or the prisoners or Auschwitz or Jonestown aftermath or Rwanda. Massacre. If you have a heart, it breaks . They say it all. The people of Russia need to see what "they" are doing.

Were you born yesterday? Listen to the Twitter video posted above. The Russian people don’t care.

Listen to the woman comment.

We had this territory at one time so it is ours. Shoulder shrug.

It's like she could be discussing what color socks to wear for all she seems to care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Russia is DISGUSTING. Point blank period. I'm furious.

+1. I'm fluent in Russian and will never speak it again. I've heard that many other bilingual people, especially those still in Eastern Europe, are making the same decision. People who grew up in the Russian-speaking part of Ukraine are switching to Ukrainian.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ukrainians and Russians are not the same ethnic group. Slav is an umbrella term that covers.multiple ethnicities.

The thing is that there are many ethnic Russians who consider themselves Ukrainian citizens and want to keep that Ukrainian nationality and do not want to become Russian citizens. Also, the Ukrainian concept of nationality is much more inclusive - Muslim Tatars in Crimea were Ukrainian citizens as well as ethnic Russians born in Crimea.

Putin has explicitly said that Ukraine does not have the right to exist as a nation. His troops assume that anyone who supports Ukrainian sovereignty, regardless of ethnicity, is a Nazi and therefore should be “cleansed”. Ethnic Russians who support the Ukrainian government have been killed. There are many ethnic Russians in Mariupol, Kharkiv, Kherson and Mykolaev. It doesn’t matter from Putin’s perspective - if they resist because they support the Ukrainian state then they are Nazis who must be cleansed from the land. He is not separating out the ethnic Russians and protecting them unless they also support Russian rule of Ukraine.

If your point is that Ukraine has citizens that aren’t ethnic Ukrainians, then the same is true about Russia. I mean North Caucasus alone has like a hundred different ethnicities and they all carry Russian passports.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ukrainians and Russians are not the same ethnic group. Slav is an umbrella term that covers.multiple ethnicities.

The thing is that there are many ethnic Russians who consider themselves Ukrainian citizens and want to keep that Ukrainian nationality and do not want to become Russian citizens. Also, the Ukrainian concept of nationality is much more inclusive - Muslim Tatars in Crimea were Ukrainian citizens as well as ethnic Russians born in Crimea.

Putin has explicitly said that Ukraine does not have the right to exist as a nation. His troops assume that anyone who supports Ukrainian sovereignty, regardless of ethnicity, is a Nazi and therefore should be “cleansed”. Ethnic Russians who support the Ukrainian government have been killed. There are many ethnic Russians in Mariupol, Kharkiv, Kherson and Mykolaev. It doesn’t matter from Putin’s perspective - if they resist because they support the Ukrainian state then they are Nazis who must be cleansed from the land. He is not separating out the ethnic Russians and protecting them unless they also support Russian rule of Ukraine.

If your point is that Ukraine has citizens that aren’t ethnic Ukrainians, then the same is true about Russia. I mean North Caucasus alone has like a hundred different ethnicities and they all carry Russian passports.

No, my point isn't that Ukraine has non-ethnic Ukrainians. My point is that Putin is carrying out a cleansing based on Ukrainian nationality, not Ukrainian ethnicity.

[Anonymous]

This is really hard to watch. Arrest of Belarusians who were sabotaging railway communications.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ukrainians and Russians are not the same ethnic group. Slav is an umbrella term that covers.multiple ethnicities.

The thing is that there are many ethnic Russians who consider themselves Ukrainian citizens and want to keep that Ukrainian nationality and do not want to become Russian citizens. Also, the Ukrainian concept of nationality is much more inclusive - Muslim Tatars in Crimea were Ukrainian citizens as well as ethnic Russians born in Crimea.

Putin has explicitly said that Ukraine does not have the right to exist as a nation. His troops assume that anyone who supports Ukrainian sovereignty, regardless of ethnicity, is a Nazi and therefore should be “cleansed”. Ethnic Russians who support the Ukrainian government have been killed. There are many ethnic Russians in Mariupol, Kharkiv, Kherson and Mykolaev. It doesn’t matter from Putin’s perspective - if they resist because they support the Ukrainian state then they are Nazis who must be cleansed from the land. He is not separating out the ethnic Russians and protecting them unless they also support Russian rule of Ukraine.

If your point is that Ukraine has citizens that aren’t ethnic Ukrainians, then the same is true about Russia. I mean North Caucasus alone has like a hundred different ethnicities and they all carry Russian passports.

No, my point isn't that Ukraine has non-ethnic Ukrainians. My point is that Putin is carrying out a cleansing based on Ukrainian nationality, not Ukrainian ethnicity.

What is a non-ethnic Ukrainian if not a Ukrainian citizen of a different ethnicity?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ukrainians and Russians are not the same ethnic group. Slav is an umbrella term that covers.multiple ethnicities.

The thing is that there are many ethnic Russians who consider themselves Ukrainian citizens and want to keep that Ukrainian nationality and do not want to become Russian citizens. Also, the Ukrainian concept of nationality is much more inclusive - Muslim Tatars in Crimea were Ukrainian citizens as well as ethnic Russians born in Crimea.

Putin has explicitly said that Ukraine does not have the right to exist as a nation. His troops assume that anyone who supports Ukrainian sovereignty, regardless of ethnicity, is a Nazi and therefore should be “cleansed”. Ethnic Russians who support the Ukrainian government have been killed. There are many ethnic Russians in Mariupol, Kharkiv, Kherson and Mykolaev. It doesn’t matter from Putin’s perspective - if they resist because they support the Ukrainian state then they are Nazis who must be cleansed from the land. He is not separating out the ethnic Russians and protecting them unless they also support Russian rule of Ukraine.

If your point is that Ukraine has citizens that aren’t ethnic Ukrainians, then the same is true about Russia. I mean North Caucasus alone has like a hundred different ethnicities and they all carry Russian passports.

No, my point isn't that Ukraine has non-ethnic Ukrainians. My point is that Putin is carrying out a cleansing based on Ukrainian nationality, not Ukrainian ethnicity.

What is a non-ethnic Ukrainian if not a Ukrainian citizen of a different ethnicity?

Again, my point isn't that Ukraine has non-ethnic Ukrainians, or as you seem to insist "Ukrainian citizens of a different ethnicity". My point is that Putin and his senior management are engaged in a strategy of genocide based on nationality, not ethnicity. All ethnicities in Ukraine that support a Ukrainian sovereign state are intended targets of the Russian Forces, and are being "cleansed," i.e. killed, forced to support Russian Forces or deported away into Russia. BTW, many of them speak Russian and are ethnically Russian, and have family members in Russia, but if they have or choose to keep Ukrainian passports and citizenship, or participate in Ukrainian governance, or want to stay in Ukraine, they are at risk of being bombed, detained, tortured, deported, disappeared or killed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ukrainians and Russians are not the same ethnic group. Slav is an umbrella term that covers.multiple ethnicities.

The thing is that there are many ethnic Russians who consider themselves Ukrainian citizens and want to keep that Ukrainian nationality and do not want to become Russian citizens. Also, the Ukrainian concept of nationality is much more inclusive - Muslim Tatars in Crimea were Ukrainian citizens as well as ethnic Russians born in Crimea.

Putin has explicitly said that Ukraine does not have the right to exist as a nation. His troops assume that anyone who supports Ukrainian sovereignty, regardless of ethnicity, is a Nazi and therefore should be “cleansed”. Ethnic Russians who support the Ukrainian government have been killed. There are many ethnic Russians in Mariupol, Kharkiv, Kherson and Mykolaev. It doesn’t matter from Putin’s perspective - if they resist because they support the Ukrainian state then they are Nazis who must be cleansed from the land. He is not separating out the ethnic Russians and protecting them unless they also support Russian rule of Ukraine.

If your point is that Ukraine has citizens that aren’t ethnic Ukrainians, then the same is true about Russia. I mean North Caucasus alone has like a hundred different ethnicities and they all carry Russian passports.

No, my point isn't that Ukraine has non-ethnic Ukrainians. My point is that Putin is carrying out a cleansing based on Ukrainian nationality, not Ukrainian ethnicity.

What is a non-ethnic Ukrainian if not a Ukrainian citizen of a different ethnicity?

Again, my point isn't that Ukraine has non-ethnic Ukrainians, or as you seem to insist "Ukrainian citizens of a different ethnicity". My point is that Putin and his senior management are engaged in a strategy of genocide based on nationality, not ethnicity. All ethnicities in Ukraine that support a Ukrainian sovereign state are intended targets of the Russian Forces, and are being "cleansed," i.e. killed, forced to support Russian Forces or deported away into Russia. BTW, many of them speak Russian and are ethnically Russian, and have family members in Russia, but if they have or choose to keep Ukrainian passports and citizenship, or participate in Ukrainian governance, or want to stay in Ukraine, they are at risk of being bombed, detained, tortured, deported, disappeared or killed.

I don’t think anyone questions the fact that everyone who lives in Ukraine is at risk.

My disagreement with you is your statement that Ukraine has a “more inclusive” concept of nationality. What do you mean by that? More inclusive than which country? Clearly Ukraine has citizens that aren’t ethnic Ukrainians but Russia has millions of citizens who aren’t ethnic Russians either, and it has more of them just by virtue of size. So what did you mean by “much more inclusive” concept of nationality?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ukrainians and Russians are not the same ethnic group. Slav is an umbrella term that covers.multiple ethnicities.

The thing is that there are many ethnic Russians who consider themselves Ukrainian citizens and want to keep that Ukrainian nationality and do not want to become Russian citizens. Also, the Ukrainian concept of nationality is much more inclusive - Muslim Tatars in Crimea were Ukrainian citizens as well as ethnic Russians born in Crimea.

Putin has explicitly said that Ukraine does not have the right to exist as a nation. His troops assume that anyone who supports Ukrainian sovereignty, regardless of ethnicity, is a Nazi and therefore should be “cleansed”. Ethnic Russians who support the Ukrainian government have been killed. There are many ethnic Russians in Mariupol, Kharkiv, Kherson and Mykolaev. It doesn’t matter from Putin’s perspective - if they resist because they support the Ukrainian state then they are Nazis who must be cleansed from the land. He is not separating out the ethnic Russians and protecting them unless they also support Russian rule of Ukraine.

If your point is that Ukraine has citizens that aren’t ethnic Ukrainians, then the same is true about Russia. I mean North Caucasus alone has like a hundred different ethnicities and they all carry Russian passports.

No, my point isn't that Ukraine has non-ethnic Ukrainians. My point is that Putin is carrying out a cleansing based on Ukrainian nationality, not Ukrainian ethnicity.

What is a non-ethnic Ukrainian if not a Ukrainian citizen of a different ethnicity?

Again, my point isn't that Ukraine has non-ethnic Ukrainians, or as you seem to insist "Ukrainian citizens of a different ethnicity". My point is that Putin and his senior management are engaged in a strategy of genocide based on nationality, not ethnicity. All ethnicities in Ukraine that support a Ukrainian sovereign state are intended targets of the Russian Forces, and are being "cleansed," i.e. killed, forced to support Russian Forces or deported away into Russia. BTW, many of them speak Russian and are ethnically Russian, and have family members in Russia, but if they have or choose to keep Ukrainian passports and citizenship, or participate in Ukrainian governance, or want to stay in Ukraine, they are at risk of being bombed, detained, tortured, deported, disappeared or killed.

I don’t think anyone questions the fact that everyone who lives in Ukraine is at risk.

My disagreement with you is your statement that Ukraine has a “more inclusive” concept of nationality. What do you mean by that? More inclusive than which country? Clearly Ukraine has citizens that aren’t ethnic Ukrainians but Russia has millions of citizens who aren’t ethnic Russians either, and it has more of them just by virtue of size. So what did you mean by “much more inclusive” concept of nationality?

Maybe you don't know much about Ukraine's history and diversity. Ukraine was founded over 1000 years ago by the Kievan Rus, who were Varangian Vikings (Scandinavians) who migrated to what is now Ukraine and intermingled with the Slavs. It had a lot of different peoples and cultures, for example eastern parts of Ukraine being conquered by the Mongols in the 1200s, a big influx of Ashkenazi Jews and Germans into Western Ukraine in the 1300s, then portions Turkicized in the 1500s as the Crimean Khanate got independence from the Golden Horde and went under the influence of the Ottomans. Ukraine was far more recently forcibly cleansed of many of its more diverse populations by the Soviets, like removing asians, turkic people etc like the Crimean Tatars, along with the genocide of native Ukrainians during the Holodomor, to be displaced and ethnic Russians imported to take over their lands, homes and farms.

[Anonymous]

Anyone living in Ukraine is at risk. Putin's thugs seem fine with exterminating them all. There are even eyewitnesses who talked about people who held up St. George ribbons or Russian flags being shot or arrested and disappeared by the Russians.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ukrainians and Russians are not the same ethnic group. Slav is an umbrella term that covers.multiple ethnicities.

The thing is that there are many ethnic Russians who consider themselves Ukrainian citizens and want to keep that Ukrainian nationality and do not want to become Russian citizens. Also, the Ukrainian concept of nationality is much more inclusive - Muslim Tatars in Crimea were Ukrainian citizens as well as ethnic Russians born in Crimea.

Putin has explicitly said that Ukraine does not have the right to exist as a nation. His troops assume that anyone who supports Ukrainian sovereignty, regardless of ethnicity, is a Nazi and therefore should be “cleansed”. Ethnic Russians who support the Ukrainian government have been killed. There are many ethnic Russians in Mariupol, Kharkiv, Kherson and Mykolaev. It doesn’t matter from Putin’s perspective - if they resist because they support the Ukrainian state then they are Nazis who must be cleansed from the land. He is not separating out the ethnic Russians and protecting them unless they also support Russian rule of Ukraine.

If your point is that Ukraine has citizens that aren’t ethnic Ukrainians, then the same is true about Russia. I mean North Caucasus alone has like a hundred different ethnicities and they all carry Russian passports.

No, my point isn't that Ukraine has non-ethnic Ukrainians. My point is that Putin is carrying out a cleansing based on Ukrainian nationality, not Ukrainian ethnicity.

What is a non-ethnic Ukrainian if not a Ukrainian citizen of a different ethnicity?

Again, my point isn't that Ukraine has non-ethnic Ukrainians, or as you seem to insist "Ukrainian citizens of a different ethnicity". My point is that Putin and his senior management are engaged in a strategy of genocide based on nationality, not ethnicity. All ethnicities in Ukraine that support a Ukrainian sovereign state are intended targets of the Russian Forces, and are being "cleansed," i.e. killed, forced to support Russian Forces or deported away into Russia. BTW, many of them speak Russian and are ethnically Russian, and have family members in Russia, but if they have or choose to keep Ukrainian passports and citizenship, or participate in Ukrainian governance, or want to stay in Ukraine, they are at risk of being bombed, detained, tortured, deported, disappeared or killed.

I don’t think anyone questions the fact that everyone who lives in Ukraine is at risk.

My disagreement with you is your statement that Ukraine has a “more inclusive” concept of nationality. What do you mean by that? More inclusive than which country? Clearly Ukraine has citizens that aren’t ethnic Ukrainians but Russia has millions of citizens who aren’t ethnic Russians either, and it has more of them just by virtue of size. So what did you mean by “much more inclusive” concept of nationality?

Maybe you don't know much about Ukraine's history and diversity. Ukraine was founded over 1000 years ago by the Kievan Rus, who were Varangian Vikings (Scandinavians) who migrated to what is now Ukraine and intermingled with the Slavs. It had a lot of different peoples and cultures, for example eastern parts of Ukraine being conquered by the Mongols in the 1200s, a big influx of Ashkenazi Jews and Germans into Western Ukraine in the 1300s, then portions Turkicized in the 1500s as the Crimean Khanate got independence from the Golden Horde and went under the influence of the Ottomans. Ukraine was far more recently forcibly cleansed of many of its more diverse populations by the Soviets, like removing asians, turkic people etc like the Crimean Tatars, along with the genocide of native Ukrainians during the Holodomor, to be displaced and ethnic Russians imported to take over their lands, homes and farms.

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Very interesting - thank you !

Amazingly rich history - like Syria ! Apart from the brutality, it is heart breaking that so much history and culture is being obliterated …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Ukrainians and Russians are not the same ethnic group. Slav is an umbrella term that covers.multiple ethnicities.

The thing is that there are many ethnic Russians who consider themselves Ukrainian citizens and want to keep that Ukrainian nationality and do not want to become Russian citizens. Also, the Ukrainian concept of nationality is much more inclusive - Muslim Tatars in Crimea were Ukrainian citizens as well as ethnic Russians born in Crimea.

Putin has explicitly said that Ukraine does not have the right to exist as a nation. His troops assume that anyone who supports Ukrainian sovereignty, regardless of ethnicity, is a Nazi and therefore should be “cleansed”. Ethnic Russians who support the Ukrainian government have been killed. There are many ethnic Russians in Mariupol, Kharkiv, Kherson and Mykolaev. It doesn’t matter from Putin’s perspective - if they resist because they support the Ukrainian state then they are Nazis who must be cleansed from the land. He is not separating out the ethnic Russians and protecting them unless they also support Russian rule of Ukraine.

If your point is that Ukraine has citizens that aren’t ethnic Ukrainians, then the same is true about Russia. I mean North Caucasus alone has like a hundred different ethnicities and they all carry Russian passports.

No, my point isn't that Ukraine has non-ethnic Ukrainians. My point is that Putin is carrying out a cleansing based on Ukrainian nationality, not Ukrainian ethnicity.

What is a non-ethnic Ukrainian if not a Ukrainian citizen of a different ethnicity?

Again, my point isn't that Ukraine has non-ethnic Ukrainians, or as you seem to insist "Ukrainian citizens of a different ethnicity". My point is that Putin and his senior management are engaged in a strategy of genocide based on nationality, not ethnicity. All ethnicities in Ukraine that support a Ukrainian sovereign state are intended targets of the Russian Forces, and are being "cleansed," i.e. killed, forced to support Russian Forces or deported away into Russia. BTW, many of them speak Russian and are ethnically Russian, and have family members in Russia, but if they have or choose to keep Ukrainian passports and citizenship, or participate in Ukrainian governance, or want to stay in Ukraine, they are at risk of being bombed, detained, tortured, deported, disappeared or killed.

I don’t think anyone questions the fact that everyone who lives in Ukraine is at risk.

My disagreement with you is your statement that Ukraine has a “more inclusive” concept of nationality. What do you mean by that? More inclusive than which country? Clearly Ukraine has citizens that aren’t ethnic Ukrainians but Russia has millions of citizens who aren’t ethnic Russians either, and it has more of them just by virtue of size. So what did you mean by “much more inclusive” concept of nationality?

Maybe you don't know much about Ukraine's history and diversity. Ukraine was founded over 1000 years ago by the Kievan Rus, who were Varangian Vikings (Scandinavians) who migrated to what is now Ukraine and intermingled with the Slavs. It had a lot of different peoples and cultures, for example eastern parts of Ukraine being conquered by the Mongols in the 1200s, a big influx of Ashkenazi Jews and Germans into Western Ukraine in the 1300s, then portions Turkicized in the 1500s as the Crimean Khanate got independence from the Golden Horde and went under the influence of the Ottomans. Ukraine was far more recently forcibly cleansed of many of its more diverse populations by the Soviets, like removing asians, turkic people etc like the Crimean Tatars, along with the genocide of native Ukrainians during the Holodomor, to be displaced and ethnic Russians imported to take over their lands, homes and farms.

Holiodomor killed more ethnic Kazakhs than Ukrainians so I’m not sure why Ukraine decided that it owns this particular misfortune.

The entire Eurasian space was a site of multiple migration flows both in and out. Ukraine isn’t unique in that. I am not convinced that the Ukrainian concept of nationality is more inclusive than its neighbors. God knows his many different ethnicities carry a Russian passport.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ukrainians and Russians are not the same ethnic group. Slav is an umbrella term that covers.multiple ethnicities.

The thing is that there are many ethnic Russians who consider themselves Ukrainian citizens and want to keep that Ukrainian nationality and do not want to become Russian citizens. Also, the Ukrainian concept of nationality is much more inclusive - Muslim Tatars in Crimea were Ukrainian citizens as well as ethnic Russians born in Crimea.

Putin has explicitly said that Ukraine does not have the right to exist as a nation. His troops assume that anyone who supports Ukrainian sovereignty, regardless of ethnicity, is a Nazi and therefore should be “cleansed”. Ethnic Russians who support the Ukrainian government have been killed. There are many ethnic Russians in Mariupol, Kharkiv, Kherson and Mykolaev. It doesn’t matter from Putin’s perspective - if they resist because they support the Ukrainian state then they are Nazis who must be cleansed from the land. He is not separating out the ethnic Russians and protecting them unless they also support Russian rule of Ukraine.

If your point is that Ukraine has citizens that aren’t ethnic Ukrainians, then the same is true about Russia. I mean North Caucasus alone has like a hundred different ethnicities and they all carry Russian passports.

No, my point isn't that Ukraine has non-ethnic Ukrainians. My point is that Putin is carrying out a cleansing based on Ukrainian nationality, not Ukrainian ethnicity.

What is a non-ethnic Ukrainian if not a Ukrainian citizen of a different ethnicity?

Again, my point isn't that Ukraine has non-ethnic Ukrainians, or as you seem to insist "Ukrainian citizens of a different ethnicity". My point is that Putin and his senior management are engaged in a strategy of genocide based on nationality, not ethnicity. All ethnicities in Ukraine that support a Ukrainian sovereign state are intended targets of the Russian Forces, and are being "cleansed," i.e. killed, forced to support Russian Forces or deported away into Russia. BTW, many of them speak Russian and are ethnically Russian, and have family members in Russia, but if they have or choose to keep Ukrainian passports and citizenship, or participate in Ukrainian governance, or want to stay in Ukraine, they are at risk of being bombed, detained, tortured, deported, disappeared or killed.

I don’t think anyone questions the fact that everyone who lives in Ukraine is at risk.

My disagreement with you is your statement that Ukraine has a “more inclusive” concept of nationality. What do you mean by that? More inclusive than which country? Clearly Ukraine has citizens that aren’t ethnic Ukrainians but Russia has millions of citizens who aren’t ethnic Russians either, and it has more of them just by virtue of size. So what did you mean by “much more inclusive” concept of nationality?

Maybe you don't know much about Ukraine's history and diversity. Ukraine was founded over 1000 years ago by the Kievan Rus, who were Varangian Vikings (Scandinavians) who migrated to what is now Ukraine and intermingled with the Slavs. It had a lot of different peoples and cultures, for example eastern parts of Ukraine being conquered by the Mongols in the 1200s, a big influx of Ashkenazi Jews and Germans into Western Ukraine in the 1300s, then portions Turkicized in the 1500s as the Crimean Khanate got independence from the Golden Horde and went under the influence of the Ottomans. Ukraine was far more recently forcibly cleansed of many of its more diverse populations by the Soviets, like removing asians, turkic people etc like the Crimean Tatars, along with the genocide of native Ukrainians during the Holodomor, to be displaced and ethnic Russians imported to take over their lands, homes and farms.

Literally every word of this can be applied to Russia from Vikings to Mongols.