Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why any sane person would put down $2+ million on a house in MoCo rather than in Virginia (or even the District).

Muff and I were just talking about this over virgin bellinis whilst Trip and Chumbles took Trip's boat out (boys and their toys) and we agreed that the real problem is, Maryland doesn't have enough palladium windows. Additionally, its supply of fake French Chateaux which are over 7,000 square feet is quite limited. I mean, it isn't like we are one of those *new* families from Kunming or Dubai or Chennai, but we still like a certain amount of space. I have my craft room, and Chumbles likes his man cave. He's becoming a fantastic craft brewer, did I tell you? Plus, think of the children.

Oh, wait. Where are the children? Let me text their au pairs. Give me a moment.

Right. Where were we? Ah yes. The rich are fleeing Montgomery County. Indeed. I almost joined the caravan heading toward the Chain Bridge yesterday, but it was so full of Range Rovers and I mean, really. There's such a thing as trying *too* hard. Like Louisa? You know Louisa? No, not Louisa M. Or Louisa P. Adult-Lousia--you know, thin, blonde, ponytail... From yoga... Right. The biracial one. Is she? I mean, I'm not sure. It's not like I could ask? So they actually chartered a helicopter to airlift the family out. Like something from Miss Saigon! Oh! I hope that wasn't offensive that I said Saigon. You're not...

Oh. Well, yes. I didn't think you were Vietnamese, but you know, it's so awkward to ask. I was just telling Chumbles the other day, we wouldn't have this kind of awkwardness in Virginia. And then he made this joke... Uh, maybe it's not appropriate. His family. *You* know. They practically invented the institution. Old money. Which institution? Uh, never mind. Where were we?

Where are those kids? Could you text your au pair? One of the problems of having such a big house! I hate this modern style. It was a Chumbles. He has such a flair.

In Virginia we can have a nice French Chateaux.I cannot wait.

It's, "Palladian," you pleeb.

It's also chateau ...

Châteaux is the plural of chateau. The poster was correct.

Well, then, "a nice French Chateaux" is incorrect usage. The things DCUM decides to go to war over!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why any sane person would put down $2+ million on a house in MoCo rather than in Virginia (or even the District).

Muff and I were just talking about this over virgin bellinis whilst Trip and Chumbles took Trip's boat out (boys and their toys) and we agreed that the real problem is, Maryland doesn't have enough palladium windows. Additionally, its supply of fake French Chateaux which are over 7,000 square feet is quite limited. I mean, it isn't like we are one of those *new* families from Kunming or Dubai or Chennai, but we still like a certain amount of space. I have my craft room, and Chumbles likes his man cave. He's becoming a fantastic craft brewer, did I tell you? Plus, think of the children.

Oh, wait. Where are the children? Let me text their au pairs. Give me a moment.

Right. Where were we? Ah yes. The rich are fleeing Montgomery County. Indeed. I almost joined the caravan heading toward the Chain Bridge yesterday, but it was so full of Range Rovers and I mean, really. There's such a thing as trying *too* hard. Like Louisa? You know Louisa? No, not Louisa M. Or Louisa P. Adult-Lousia--you know, thin, blonde, ponytail... From yoga... Right. The biracial one. Is she? I mean, I'm not sure. It's not like I could ask? So they actually chartered a helicopter to airlift the family out. Like something from Miss Saigon! Oh! I hope that wasn't offensive that I said Saigon. You're not...

Oh. Well, yes. I didn't think you were Vietnamese, but you know, it's so awkward to ask. I was just telling Chumbles the other day, we wouldn't have this kind of awkwardness in Virginia. And then he made this joke... Uh, maybe it's not appropriate. His family. *You* know. They practically invented the institution. Old money. Which institution? Uh, never mind. Where were we?

Where are those kids? Could you text your au pair? One of the problems of having such a big house! I hate this modern style. It was a Chumbles. He has such a flair.

In Virginia we can have a nice French Chateaux.I cannot wait.

It's, "Palladian," you pleeb.

It's also chateau ...

Châteaux is the plural of chateau. The poster was correct.

Well, then, "a nice French Chateaux" is incorrect usage. The things DCUM decides to go to war over!

And so incompetently!

[Anonymous]

I don't know if people are going to private or leaving the area, but enrollment is way down at our W middle school feeder.

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Anonymous wrote:Most high earners I know have gone to private. I'm not even talking about rich, just 250k+.
There's very little reason to stay in mcps.

Hahahaha! Hilarious. You think those of us that make $250k can afford the decent privates in MoCo / DMV. You are so obviously a troll.

I do feel sorry for that class of people who are first generation umc and have to live off of their earnings.

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Anonymous wrote:Private has been a disappointment after leaving public, difference is it’s cost me over $30 grand a year to learn that.

I'm right there with you. Am re-enrolling my kid back in public this Fall. Not only that, but the mental health and behavioral issues with the private school kids were unlike nothing I had ever seen with my kid's public school peers. I wanted to like it and stay but couldn't justify it.

I call bs that a person who write "unlike nothing" sends her kids to private school.

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Anonymous wrote:Private has been a disappointment after leaving public, difference is it’s cost me over $30 grand a year to learn that.

I'm right there with you. Am re-enrolling my kid back in public this Fall. Not only that, but the mental health and behavioral issues with the private school kids were unlike nothing I had ever seen with my kid's public school peers. I wanted to like it and stay but couldn't justify it.

I call bs that a person who write "unlike nothing" sends her kids to private school.

Before you criticize someone else’s writing, check yours.

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Anonymous wrote:Private has been a disappointment after leaving public, difference is it’s cost me over $30 grand a year to learn that.

I'm right there with you. Am re-enrolling my kid back in public this Fall. Not only that, but the mental health and behavioral issues with the private school kids were unlike nothing I had ever seen with my kid's public school peers. I wanted to like it and stay but couldn't justify it.

I call bs that a person who write "unlike nothing" sends her kids to private school.

Before you criticize someone else’s writing, check yours.

Exactly. An anonymous forum should not be the measure of a person’s writing ability. But then the rational among us know this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Before covid, Rachel Carson ES in Gaithersburg was way overcrowded and planned to move some kids to Dufief ES after its expansion. We are recently told that there won't be any kid moving school zone at Rachel Carson ES, and all portables would be removed (kids move back in building) because we are under capacity now. I wonder where those kids move to, private school or different ES/school district?

I live in the Kentlands and it's very obvious just from observing the pickup and dropoffs that enrollment has plummeted at Rachel Carson. The place used to be thronged and caused big traffic disruptions. Now it's not a big deal. What's the current enrollment there? A few years ago it was at 1100. Just anecdotally, we have several neighbors who had planned to send their kids there pre-pandemic but are now doing homeschool and private school.

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Anonymous wrote:Before covid, Rachel Carson ES in Gaithersburg was way overcrowded and planned to move some kids to Dufief ES after its expansion. We are recently told that there won't be any kid moving school zone at Rachel Carson ES, and all portables would be removed (kids move back in building) because we are under capacity now. I wonder where those kids move to, private school or different ES/school district?

I live in the Kentlands and it's very obvious just from observing the pickup and dropoffs that enrollment has plummeted at Rachel Carson. The place used to be thronged and caused big traffic disruptions. Now it's not a big deal. What's the current enrollment there? A few years ago it was at 1100. Just anecdotally, we have several neighbors who had planned to send their kids there pre-pandemic but are now doing homeschool and private school.

Rachel Carson is a good example of parents with means who might be sending to private because of problems in mcps, but the principal is also a problem. It once had a very accomplished, competent principal but that person left a year or two before the pandemic. The problems at that school have been increasing ever since.

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Anonymous wrote:It sure seems like many affluent in Bethesda/ Potomac, Chevy Chase are exiting MCPS in droves. Has anyone else observed this happening?

There's no evidence to support this. People seem to be happy with the exception of a few far-right posters that like to stir up trouble.

Ya the same poster keeps starting these doom and gloom threads. I think they have a political agenda, but the reality is my kids are getting a much better education than I got 25 years ago at Wooton.

Same poster starting the same thing over in a new thread every day. They really hate public education.

Google Corey DeAngelis. It's like his job to tear down public education. He is a childless man who went to state schools. Works for Cato.

I will now add that I am not saying he posts here. How would I know if he does or not? I will say he is an excellent example of a certain type and much of their rhetoric is repeated here.

I think MCPS is giving them more pushback than some of the other regional boards. Let's keep it up.

DP.. you guys do realize that MCPS admitted that enrollment has gone down unexpectedly, right?

-MCPS parent

No, it was expected to go down because of the pandemic and online learning.

? Online learning in MCPS VL is still counted as part of the student body.

The rest left MCPS: some moved, others went to private.

Once again: MCPS has acknowledged that for the first time in 10 years, the total enrollment dipped below 160K. Once again: some moved out of MoCo, whle others went to private.

Private school have stated that applications have gone up by a lot. I don't doubt that many did pull their kids out and put them in private during the past two years. I know of a few personally.

We are still in MCPS. Hindsight: I wish that I had pulled my MSer DC out and put them in private for two years, but I kept hoping that things would get better. DC got an A in Algebra during VL last year (and other classes), so I had assumed DC was doing fine.. Just got DC's MCAP results for Alg. It was abysmal. How in the world did DC get an A but a score of 4 in MCAP? Something like 90% of students in MCPS Alg1 scored below expectations. This is why parents are furious. I'm furious.

The easy grading and lack of HW during VL created this mess. Yes, I know grading and HW was pretty lacking precovid, but it was better. DC's PARCC scores for ELA/math were always good -- meets expectations. The year of VL, the scores tanked. MCPS has acknowledged that the scores tanked across the board.

You can try to spin it any which way, but MCPS isn't doing "fine". Granted, many school districts aren't doing fine, but we are in MCPS, so let's focus on MCPS.

It's not fine. That's why a lot of parents who could left.

Last year when MCPS was 100% DL. That's when most of the unenrollment happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Before covid, Rachel Carson ES in Gaithersburg was way overcrowded and planned to move some kids to Dufief ES after its expansion. We are recently told that there won't be any kid moving school zone at Rachel Carson ES, and all portables would be removed (kids move back in building) because we are under capacity now. I wonder where those kids move to, private school or different ES/school district?

I live in the Kentlands and it's very obvious just from observing the pickup and dropoffs that enrollment has plummeted at Rachel Carson. The place used to be thronged and caused big traffic disruptions. Now it's not a big deal. What's the current enrollment there? A few years ago it was at 1100. Just anecdotally, we have several neighbors who had planned to send their kids there pre-pandemic but are now doing homeschool and private school.

Rachel Carson is a good example of parents with means who might be sending to private because of problems in mcps, but the principal is also a problem. It once had a very accomplished, competent principal but that person left a year or two before the pandemic. The problems at that school have been increasing ever since.

Last year RCES: 773
Year before: 893
Year before that: 973
Year before that 1022

*includes PreK

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sure seems like many affluent in Bethesda/ Potomac, Chevy Chase are exiting MCPS in droves. Has anyone else observed this happening?

There's no evidence to support this. People seem to be happy with the exception of a few far-right posters that like to stir up trouble.

Ya the same poster keeps starting these doom and gloom threads. I think they have a political agenda, but the reality is my kids are getting a much better education than I got 25 years ago at Wooton.

Same poster starting the same thing over in a new thread every day. They really hate public education.

Google Corey DeAngelis. It's like his job to tear down public education. He is a childless man who went to state schools. Works for Cato.

I will now add that I am not saying he posts here. How would I know if he does or not? I will say he is an excellent example of a certain type and much of their rhetoric is repeated here.

I think MCPS is giving them more pushback than some of the other regional boards. Let's keep it up.

DP.. you guys do realize that MCPS admitted that enrollment has gone down unexpectedly, right?

-MCPS parent

No, it was expected to go down because of the pandemic and online learning.

? Online learning in MCPS VL is still counted as part of the student body.

The rest left MCPS: some moved, others went to private.

Once again: MCPS has acknowledged that for the first time in 10 years, the total enrollment dipped below 160K. Once again: some moved out of MoCo, whle others went to private.

Private school have stated that applications have gone up by a lot. I don't doubt that many did pull their kids out and put them in private during the past two years. I know of a few personally.

We are still in MCPS. Hindsight: I wish that I had pulled my MSer DC out and put them in private for two years, but I kept hoping that things would get better. DC got an A in Algebra during VL last year (and other classes), so I had assumed DC was doing fine.. Just got DC's MCAP results for Alg. It was abysmal. How in the world did DC get an A but a score of 4 in MCAP? Something like 90% of students in MCPS Alg1 scored below expectations. This is why parents are furious. I'm furious.

The easy grading and lack of HW during VL created this mess. Yes, I know grading and HW was pretty lacking precovid, but it was better. DC's PARCC scores for ELA/math were always good -- meets expectations. The year of VL, the scores tanked. MCPS has acknowledged that the scores tanked across the board.

You can try to spin it any which way, but MCPS isn't doing "fine". Granted, many school districts aren't doing fine, but we are in MCPS, so let's focus on MCPS.

It's not fine. That's why a lot of parents who could left.

Last year when MCPS was 100% DL. That's when most of the unenrollment happened.

yes, exactly, but the pointis that online learners in MCPS are still counted as part of the student body.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Before covid, Rachel Carson ES in Gaithersburg was way overcrowded and planned to move some kids to Dufief ES after its expansion. We are recently told that there won't be any kid moving school zone at Rachel Carson ES, and all portables would be removed (kids move back in building) because we are under capacity now. I wonder where those kids move to, private school or different ES/school district?

I live in the Kentlands and it's very obvious just from observing the pickup and dropoffs that enrollment has plummeted at Rachel Carson. The place used to be thronged and caused big traffic disruptions. Now it's not a big deal. What's the current enrollment there? A few years ago it was at 1100. Just anecdotally, we have several neighbors who had planned to send their kids there pre-pandemic but are now doing homeschool and private school.

Rachel Carson is a good example of parents with means who might be sending to private because of problems in mcps, but the principal is also a problem. It once had a very accomplished, competent principal but that person left a year or two before the pandemic. The problems at that school have been increasing ever since.

Last year RCES: 773
Year before: 893
Year before that: 973
Year before that 1022

*includes PreK

Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Before covid, Rachel Carson ES in Gaithersburg was way overcrowded and planned to move some kids to Dufief ES after its expansion. We are recently told that there won't be any kid moving school zone at Rachel Carson ES, and all portables would be removed (kids move back in building) because we are under capacity now. I wonder where those kids move to, private school or different ES/school district?

I live in the Kentlands and it's very obvious just from observing the pickup and dropoffs that enrollment has plummeted at Rachel Carson. The place used to be thronged and caused big traffic disruptions. Now it's not a big deal. What's the current enrollment there? A few years ago it was at 1100. Just anecdotally, we have several neighbors who had planned to send their kids there pre-pandemic but are now doing homeschool and private school.

Rachel Carson is a good example of parents with means who might be sending to private because of problems in mcps, but the principal is also a problem. It once had a very accomplished, competent principal but that person left a year or two before the pandemic. The problems at that school have been increasing ever since.

Last year RCES: 773
Year before: 893
Year before that: 973
Year before that 1022

*includes PreK

Despite the decreasing enrollment, the FARMS rate at Rachel Carson has remained steady over the past five years. It's always been between 19 and 21 %.

[Anonymous]

I do not think we can really know what will happen when MCPS (hopefully) goes back to regular in person school that parents can count on. It will take a few years.