Montgomery County Vaccine Passport Coming

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Anonymous wrote:Is it official? How do I get one? I cannot wait!!

Don’t worry! It’s coming. It’ll surely be an online portal with lax cybersecurity that the Chinese can easily hack into. In months, alllll your PHI will be out there for the world to access. Just trust that Montgomery County will do the right thing with your personal health data.

Don’t forget that the crappy website will nearly certainly be built and operated by a company that is suspiciously well connected to county government for a no-bid contract worth tens of millions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:JFC so many of you Do Not Get It.

VACCINES ALONE AREN'T ENOUGH.

MASKS ALONE AREN'T ENOUGH.

LIMITING GATHERINGS ALONE ISN'T ENOUGH.

We need a MULTILAYERED approach to get rid of this GD disease for good. Vaccines/masks/limiting gatherings all decrease transmission but do not eliminate them entirely. Vaccine passports serve two purposes - keeping people less likely to be safe out of public spaces, AND ALSO encouraging people to get vaccinated so they can go places.

Schools have had vaccine mandates FOREVER. Why the F is this one different? It's just adding one more to the list!

And while we're at it, while I hate folks who are active anti-vaxxers, we have NOT done enough to make vaccines accessible to those who need them most. There is a HUGE gulf between active anti-vaxxers and folks who haven't been able to get one yet. They should be available as walk-ins EVERYWHERE, no online-only booking systems, no forms if you don't want to. There should be a county service you can call (not only book online) and someone will come to your house to vaccinate you if you are disabled. Paid time off to get them, and paid time off for recovery if you have a bad reaction. Shoot just effing pay people to get them! These policies would drastically reduce disparities in vaccine rates among different racial groups and financial classes. And if you scoff at these ideas and think "everybody has internet access/paid time off, it's already easy enough" wow do you need to look outside your effing bubble.

Or, you know, you can keep on believing that seat belts are good enough so you don't need to stop for lights any more. Problem is, you risk the rest of us, too, when you do this.

No, actually, you just don’t get it, PP.

You cannot ‘get rid of’ a virus. Masks, vaccines, social distancing might help. But Covid is it going anywhere. And that is why people should be allowed to make choices regarding their own health care.

Look at other places that have implemented a ridiculous vaccine passport. Guess what? They still have Covid.

Do what works for you, but don’t fool yourself that we’re going to get rid of Covid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it official? How do I get one? I cannot wait!!

Don’t worry! It’s coming. It’ll surely be an online portal with lax cybersecurity that the Chinese can easily hack into. In months, alllll your PHI will be out there for the world to access. Just trust that Montgomery County will do the right thing with your personal health data.

Don’t forget that the crappy website will nearly certainly be built and operated by a company that is suspiciously well connected to county government for a no-bid contract worth tens of millions.

#truth

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Anonymous wrote:I am vaccinated and boostered and I wear a mask but something about a vaccine passport, showing proof, doesn’t sit well with me. How will it be enforced? Is my passport going to be scanned at businesses? Will this information be reported back to a government entity? Is it just theater?

This. And it's just another way to hurt businesses. Let them police their own business the way they want.

Elrich thinks this won’t hurt businesses because a vaccinated person won’t leave MoCo to shop elsewhere. He is SO wrong.

I am so against this. I will absolutely drive up to Frederick for restaurants/bars. Already, they have no mask mandate. I’m vaccinated, but he shouldn’t underestimate how much people will dislike this kind of crazy BS.

Actually I know a lot of people myself included who think the opposite. We've stopped going to Frederick stores and restaurants because barely anyone in these establishments, including workers wear masks. I was just at Weis and Home Goods at Mt. Airy 3 weeks ago and I was seriously uncomfortable.

Well, that’s just weird. Are you vaccinated? Did you wear a mask?

Why do you need to control what everyone else is doing? Even if every other person in that Home Goods had Covid, you are covered because you are masked and vaccinated.

You can’t control what other people do. You can only control your own behavior and how you react.

You are correct about being in control. As I've said, I decided to no longer patronize these establishments and others that clearly lack concern about this virus. There's also something very off-putting about their customers as they walk around indoors maskless without a care in the world. I'm only 15 minutes away from Frederick but it feels like thousands of miles away when I'm there.

How do you determine who is adequately ‘concerned’ about the virus?

I mean, I’m vaccinated, so I’m pretty comfortable being unmasked. I’m concerned about the virus but not terrified.

You are judging others for making a different risk-assessment than you. You are assuming that because I’m not masked, I’m not concerned. That’s incorrect. I wear a mask religiously at work and want a break from it at other times.

Most of us are concerned. Some of us never leave the house. Some of us are flying to Costa Rica. The people not wearing masks at Home Goods have just made a different risk assessment than you.

And that's fine. I choose to not be with them so I avoid those establishments. I have a different value system. I mask not only for me but for others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it official? How do I get one? I cannot wait!!

Don’t worry! It’s coming. It’ll surely be an online portal with lax cybersecurity that the Chinese can easily hack into. In months, alllll your PHI will be out there for the world to access. Just trust that Montgomery County will do the right thing with your personal health data.

Don’t forget that the crappy website will nearly certainly be built and operated by a company that is suspiciously well connected to county government for a no-bid contract worth tens of millions.

#truth

That's okay. Chinese have my PIIs' already. Yours too. Let's hope county will roll it out soon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:JFC so many of you Do Not Get It.

VACCINES ALONE AREN'T ENOUGH.

MASKS ALONE AREN'T ENOUGH.

LIMITING GATHERINGS ALONE ISN'T ENOUGH.

We need a MULTILAYERED approach to get rid of this GD disease for good. Vaccines/masks/limiting gatherings all decrease transmission but do not eliminate them entirely. Vaccine passports serve two purposes - keeping people less likely to be safe out of public spaces, AND ALSO encouraging people to get vaccinated so they can go places.

Schools have had vaccine mandates FOREVER. Why the F is this one different? It's just adding one more to the list!

And while we're at it, while I hate folks who are active anti-vaxxers, we have NOT done enough to make vaccines accessible to those who need them most. There is a HUGE gulf between active anti-vaxxers and folks who haven't been able to get one yet. They should be available as walk-ins EVERYWHERE, no online-only booking systems, no forms if you don't want to. There should be a county service you can call (not only book online) and someone will come to your house to vaccinate you if you are disabled. Paid time off to get them, and paid time off for recovery if you have a bad reaction. Shoot just effing pay people to get them! These policies would drastically reduce disparities in vaccine rates among different racial groups and financial classes. And if you scoff at these ideas and think "everybody has internet access/paid time off, it's already easy enough" wow do you need to look outside your effing bubble.

Or, you know, you can keep on believing that seat belts are good enough so you don't need to stop for lights any more. Problem is, you risk the rest of us, too, when you do this.

No, actually, you just don’t get it, PP.

You cannot ‘get rid of’ a virus. Masks, vaccines, social distancing might help. But Covid is it going anywhere. And that is why people should be allowed to make choices regarding their own health care.

Look at other places that have implemented a ridiculous vaccine passport. Guess what? They still have Covid.

Do what works for you, but don’t fool yourself that we’re going to get rid of Covid.

Yes, actually, you can get rid of a disease. We did it with polio. And note that polio's overwhelmingly predominant symptom was diarrhea. We don't remember polio nowadays, only longpolio. In 70% of cases, polio is asymptomatic. In 29.5%, it presents as diarrhea, GI distress. Only 0.5% of cases present with neurological symptoms. For the vast vast majority of people who got a disease which left hundreds of thousands disabled for the rest of their lives, polio was a few days of having the shits. If that.

So when you say that we can't get rid of COVID and you're just going to live your life, recognize that more people WILL die, and WILL become permanently disabled, due directly to those choices. (Estimates are that 30%+ of COVID cases, *even asymptomatic ones* will result in long COVID.)

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Anonymous wrote:I am vaccinated and boostered and I wear a mask but something about a vaccine passport, showing proof, doesn’t sit well with me. How will it be enforced? Is my passport going to be scanned at businesses? Will this information be reported back to a government entity? Is it just theater?

This. And it's just another way to hurt businesses. Let them police their own business the way they want.

Elrich thinks this won’t hurt businesses because a vaccinated person won’t leave MoCo to shop elsewhere. He is SO wrong.

I am so against this. I will absolutely drive up to Frederick for restaurants/bars. Already, they have no mask mandate. I’m vaccinated, but he shouldn’t underestimate how much people will dislike this kind of crazy BS.

Actually I know a lot of people myself included who think the opposite. We've stopped going to Frederick stores and restaurants because barely anyone in these establishments, including workers wear masks. I was just at Weis and Home Goods at Mt. Airy 3 weeks ago and I was seriously uncomfortable.

Well, that’s just weird. Are you vaccinated? Did you wear a mask?

Why do you need to control what everyone else is doing? Even if every other person in that Home Goods had Covid, you are covered because you are masked and vaccinated.

You can’t control what other people do. You can only control your own behavior and how you react.

You are correct about being in control. As I've said, I decided to no longer patronize these establishments and others that clearly lack concern about this virus. There's also something very off-putting about their customers as they walk around indoors maskless without a care in the world. I'm only 15 minutes away from Frederick but it feels like thousands of miles away when I'm there.

This doesn’t even make any sense.

You are uncomfortable with people being unmasked in the Frederick Home Goods. Where you are not very likely to be in contact with another customer, or even the cashier for more than 5 minutes.

But, you are comfortable patronizing a Montgomery County restaurant with tons of unmasked people, simply because you know those people are vaccinated.

Despite the fact that it is very clear that vaccinated people can vary and transmit Covid.

Your logic is vey fuzzy. I could understand if you supported a mask mandate, but MoCo already has that.

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Anonymous wrote:I am vaccinated and boostered and I wear a mask but something about a vaccine passport, showing proof, doesn’t sit well with me. How will it be enforced? Is my passport going to be scanned at businesses? Will this information be reported back to a government entity? Is it just theater?

This. And it's just another way to hurt businesses. Let them police their own business the way they want.

Elrich thinks this won’t hurt businesses because a vaccinated person won’t leave MoCo to shop elsewhere. He is SO wrong.

I am so against this. I will absolutely drive up to Frederick for restaurants/bars. Already, they have no mask mandate. I’m vaccinated, but he shouldn’t underestimate how much people will dislike this kind of crazy BS.

Actually I know a lot of people myself included who think the opposite. We've stopped going to Frederick stores and restaurants because barely anyone in these establishments, including workers wear masks. I was just at Weis and Home Goods at Mt. Airy 3 weeks ago and I was seriously uncomfortable.

Well, that’s just weird. Are you vaccinated? Did you wear a mask?

Why do you need to control what everyone else is doing? Even if every other person in that Home Goods had Covid, you are covered because you are masked and vaccinated.

You can’t control what other people do. You can only control your own behavior and how you react.

You are correct about being in control. As I've said, I decided to no longer patronize these establishments and others that clearly lack concern about this virus. There's also something very off-putting about their customers as they walk around indoors maskless without a care in the world. I'm only 15 minutes away from Frederick but it feels like thousands of miles away when I'm there.

This doesn’t even make any sense.

You are uncomfortable with people being unmasked in the Frederick Home Goods. Where you are not very likely to be in contact with another customer, or even the cashier for more than 5 minutes.

But, you are comfortable patronizing a Montgomery County restaurant with tons of unmasked people, simply because you know those people are vaccinated.

Despite the fact that it is very clear that vaccinated people can vary and transmit Covid.

Your logic is vey fuzzy. I could understand if you supported a mask mandate, but MoCo already has that.

You don't make any sense. There IS a mask mandate in MoCo. None in Frederick. In addition, the customers and workers at the Frederick establishments rarely wear masks. Yes, I'm uncomfortable with that and will not support them. What's confusing?

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Anonymous wrote:I am vaccinated and boostered and I wear a mask but something about a vaccine passport, showing proof, doesn’t sit well with me. How will it be enforced? Is my passport going to be scanned at businesses? Will this information be reported back to a government entity? Is it just theater?

This. And it's just another way to hurt businesses. Let them police their own business the way they want.

Elrich thinks this won’t hurt businesses because a vaccinated person won’t leave MoCo to shop elsewhere. He is SO wrong.

I am so against this. I will absolutely drive up to Frederick for restaurants/bars. Already, they have no mask mandate. I’m vaccinated, but he shouldn’t underestimate how much people will dislike this kind of crazy BS.

Actually I know a lot of people myself included who think the opposite. We've stopped going to Frederick stores and restaurants because barely anyone in these establishments, including workers wear masks. I was just at Weis and Home Goods at Mt. Airy 3 weeks ago and I was seriously uncomfortable.

Well, that’s just weird. Are you vaccinated? Did you wear a mask?

Why do you need to control what everyone else is doing? Even if every other person in that Home Goods had Covid, you are covered because you are masked and vaccinated.

You can’t control what other people do. You can only control your own behavior and how you react.

You are correct about being in control. As I've said, I decided to no longer patronize these establishments and others that clearly lack concern about this virus. There's also something very off-putting about their customers as they walk around indoors maskless without a care in the world. I'm only 15 minutes away from Frederick but it feels like thousands of miles away when I'm there.

This doesn’t even make any sense.

You are uncomfortable with people being unmasked in the Frederick Home Goods. Where you are not very likely to be in contact with another customer, or even the cashier for more than 5 minutes.

But, you are comfortable patronizing a Montgomery County restaurant with tons of unmasked people, simply because you know those people are vaccinated.

Despite the fact that it is very clear that vaccinated people can vary and transmit Covid.

Your logic is vey fuzzy. I could understand if you supported a mask mandate, but MoCo already has that.

You don't make any sense. There IS a mask mandate in MoCo. None in Frederick. In addition, the customers and workers at the Frederick establishments rarely wear masks. Yes, I'm uncomfortable with that and will not support them. What's confusing?

You are correct. There is a mask mandate. Like I said, it makes sense that you would support that.

This thread is about a vaccine passport in Montgomery County restaurants and gyms and theaters.

Do you go to restaurants for indoor dining? Why would you support indoor unmasked dining? If you’re really concerned, you probably should not be eating in restaurants anyway.

[Anonymous]

What they are telling us is that these places are not safe at all to be indoors in and the passport is just theater. I appreciate them doing it to let us know which places to avoid but we generally avoid anywhere indoors anyway so its not an issue. No one has the right to my personal health information so it is absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What they are telling us is that these places are not safe at all to be indoors in and the passport is just theater. I appreciate them doing it to let us know which places to avoid but we generally avoid anywhere indoors anyway so its not an issue. No one has the right to my personal health information so it is absurd.

I agree. I cannot imagine people so willing to trade the privacy of their health information in exchange for going to the gym or drinking in a bar. How absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:I am vaccinated and boostered and I wear a mask but something about a vaccine passport, showing proof, doesn’t sit well with me. How will it be enforced? Is my passport going to be scanned at businesses? Will this information be reported back to a government entity? Is it just theater?

This. And it's just another way to hurt businesses. Let them police their own business the way they want.

Elrich thinks this won’t hurt businesses because a vaccinated person won’t leave MoCo to shop elsewhere. He is SO wrong.

I am so against this. I will absolutely drive up to Frederick for restaurants/bars. Already, they have no mask mandate. I’m vaccinated, but he shouldn’t underestimate how much people will dislike this kind of crazy BS.

Actually I know a lot of people myself included who think the opposite. We've stopped going to Frederick stores and restaurants because barely anyone in these establishments, including workers wear masks. I was just at Weis and Home Goods at Mt. Airy 3 weeks ago and I was seriously uncomfortable.

Well, that’s just weird. Are you vaccinated? Did you wear a mask?

Why do you need to control what everyone else is doing? Even if every other person in that Home Goods had Covid, you are covered because you are masked and vaccinated.

You can’t control what other people do. You can only control your own behavior and how you react.

You are correct about being in control. As I've said, I decided to no longer patronize these establishments and others that clearly lack concern about this virus. There's also something very off-putting about their customers as they walk around indoors maskless without a care in the world. I'm only 15 minutes away from Frederick but it feels like thousands of miles away when I'm there.

This doesn’t even make any sense.

You are uncomfortable with people being unmasked in the Frederick Home Goods. Where you are not very likely to be in contact with another customer, or even the cashier for more than 5 minutes.

But, you are comfortable patronizing a Montgomery County restaurant with tons of unmasked people, simply because you know those people are vaccinated.

Despite the fact that it is very clear that vaccinated people can vary and transmit Covid.

Your logic is vey fuzzy. I could understand if you supported a mask mandate, but MoCo already has that.

You don't make any sense. There IS a mask mandate in MoCo. None in Frederick. In addition, the customers and workers at the Frederick establishments rarely wear masks. Yes, I'm uncomfortable with that and will not support them. What's confusing?

What’s confusing is that your logic is incredibly flawed.

Your risk of catching Covid while dining indoors with 50 other vaccinated individuals is much greater than your risk of catching Covid in the Frederick Home Goods, while masked, regardless of whether those individuals are vaccinated or not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:JFC so many of you Do Not Get It.

VACCINES ALONE AREN'T ENOUGH.

MASKS ALONE AREN'T ENOUGH.

LIMITING GATHERINGS ALONE ISN'T ENOUGH.

We need a MULTILAYERED approach to get rid of this GD disease for good. Vaccines/masks/limiting gatherings all decrease transmission but do not eliminate them entirely. Vaccine passports serve two purposes - keeping people less likely to be safe out of public spaces, AND ALSO encouraging people to get vaccinated so they can go places.

Schools have had vaccine mandates FOREVER. Why the F is this one different? It's just adding one more to the list!

And while we're at it, while I hate folks who are active anti-vaxxers, we have NOT done enough to make vaccines accessible to those who need them most. There is a HUGE gulf between active anti-vaxxers and folks who haven't been able to get one yet. They should be available as walk-ins EVERYWHERE, no online-only booking systems, no forms if you don't want to. There should be a county service you can call (not only book online) and someone will come to your house to vaccinate you if you are disabled. Paid time off to get them, and paid time off for recovery if you have a bad reaction. Shoot just effing pay people to get them! These policies would drastically reduce disparities in vaccine rates among different racial groups and financial classes. And if you scoff at these ideas and think "everybody has internet access/paid time off, it's already easy enough" wow do you need to look outside your effing bubble.

Or, you know, you can keep on believing that seat belts are good enough so you don't need to stop for lights any more. Problem is, you risk the rest of us, too, when you do this.

No, actually, you just don’t get it, PP.

You cannot ‘get rid of’ a virus. Masks, vaccines, social distancing might help. But Covid is it going anywhere. And that is why people should be allowed to make choices regarding their own health care.

Look at other places that have implemented a ridiculous vaccine passport. Guess what? They still have Covid.

Do what works for you, but don’t fool yourself that we’re going to get rid of Covid.

Yes, actually, you can get rid of a disease. We did it with polio. And note that polio's overwhelmingly predominant symptom was diarrhea. We don't remember polio nowadays, only longpolio. In 70% of cases, polio is asymptomatic. In 29.5%, it presents as diarrhea, GI distress. Only 0.5% of cases present with neurological symptoms. For the vast vast majority of people who got a disease which left hundreds of thousands disabled for the rest of their lives, polio was a few days of having the shits. If that.

So when you say that we can't get rid of COVID and you're just going to live your life, recognize that more people WILL die, and WILL become permanently disabled, due directly to those choices. (Estimates are that 30%+ of COVID cases, *even asymptomatic ones* will result in long COVID.)

Your reply is misinformation and I hope your post gets removed by the site moderator. You can’t get rid of a highly transmissible respiratory virus that can be contracted and transmitted by wild animals.

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Anonymous wrote:I am vaccinated and boostered and I wear a mask but something about a vaccine passport, showing proof, doesn’t sit well with me. How will it be enforced? Is my passport going to be scanned at businesses? Will this information be reported back to a government entity? Is it just theater?

This. And it's just another way to hurt businesses. Let them police their own business the way they want.

Elrich thinks this won’t hurt businesses because a vaccinated person won’t leave MoCo to shop elsewhere. He is SO wrong.

I am so against this. I will absolutely drive up to Frederick for restaurants/bars. Already, they have no mask mandate. I’m vaccinated, but he shouldn’t underestimate how much people will dislike this kind of crazy BS.

Actually I know a lot of people myself included who think the opposite. We've stopped going to Frederick stores and restaurants because barely anyone in these establishments, including workers wear masks. I was just at Weis and Home Goods at Mt. Airy 3 weeks ago and I was seriously uncomfortable.

Well, that’s just weird. Are you vaccinated? Did you wear a mask?

Why do you need to control what everyone else is doing? Even if every other person in that Home Goods had Covid, you are covered because you are masked and vaccinated.

You can’t control what other people do. You can only control your own behavior and how you react.

You are correct about being in control. As I've said, I decided to no longer patronize these establishments and others that clearly lack concern about this virus. There's also something very off-putting about their customers as they walk around indoors maskless without a care in the world. I'm only 15 minutes away from Frederick but it feels like thousands of miles away when I'm there.

This doesn’t even make any sense.

You are uncomfortable with people being unmasked in the Frederick Home Goods. Where you are not very likely to be in contact with another customer, or even the cashier for more than 5 minutes.

But, you are comfortable patronizing a Montgomery County restaurant with tons of unmasked people, simply because you know those people are vaccinated.

Despite the fact that it is very clear that vaccinated people can vary and transmit Covid.

Your logic is vey fuzzy. I could understand if you supported a mask mandate, but MoCo already has that.

You don't make any sense. There IS a mask mandate in MoCo. None in Frederick. In addition, the customers and workers at the Frederick establishments rarely wear masks. Yes, I'm uncomfortable with that and will not support them. What's confusing?

What’s confusing is that your logic is incredibly flawed.

Your risk of catching Covid while dining indoors with 50 other vaccinated individuals is much greater than your risk of catching Covid in the Frederick Home Goods, while masked, regardless of whether those individuals are vaccinated or not.

Where did you get the idea that I am hopping around MoCo eating at restaurants though? All I said was that I stopped supporting Frederick establishments (stores and restaurants) because of their lax policies regarding COVID safety and my uneasiness about the customers going around unmasked. But if I were to go to a restaurant, yes I would feel safer going to one in MoCo vs Frederick.

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Anonymous wrote:I am vaccinated and boostered and I wear a mask but something about a vaccine passport, showing proof, doesn’t sit well with me. How will it be enforced? Is my passport going to be scanned at businesses? Will this information be reported back to a government entity? Is it just theater?

This. And it's just another way to hurt businesses. Let them police their own business the way they want.

Elrich thinks this won’t hurt businesses because a vaccinated person won’t leave MoCo to shop elsewhere. He is SO wrong.

I am so against this. I will absolutely drive up to Frederick for restaurants/bars. Already, they have no mask mandate. I’m vaccinated, but he shouldn’t underestimate how much people will dislike this kind of crazy BS.

Actually I know a lot of people myself included who think the opposite. We've stopped going to Frederick stores and restaurants because barely anyone in these establishments, including workers wear masks. I was just at Weis and Home Goods at Mt. Airy 3 weeks ago and I was seriously uncomfortable.

Well, that’s just weird. Are you vaccinated? Did you wear a mask?

Why do you need to control what everyone else is doing? Even if every other person in that Home Goods had Covid, you are covered because you are masked and vaccinated.

You can’t control what other people do. You can only control your own behavior and how you react.

You are correct about being in control. As I've said, I decided to no longer patronize these establishments and others that clearly lack concern about this virus. There's also something very off-putting about their customers as they walk around indoors maskless without a care in the world. I'm only 15 minutes away from Frederick but it feels like thousands of miles away when I'm there.

This doesn’t even make any sense.

You are uncomfortable with people being unmasked in the Frederick Home Goods. Where you are not very likely to be in contact with another customer, or even the cashier for more than 5 minutes.

But, you are comfortable patronizing a Montgomery County restaurant with tons of unmasked people, simply because you know those people are vaccinated.

Despite the fact that it is very clear that vaccinated people can vary and transmit Covid.

Your logic is vey fuzzy. I could understand if you supported a mask mandate, but MoCo already has that.

You don't make any sense. There IS a mask mandate in MoCo. None in Frederick. In addition, the customers and workers at the Frederick establishments rarely wear masks. Yes, I'm uncomfortable with that and will not support them. What's confusing?

What’s confusing is that your logic is incredibly flawed.

Your risk of catching Covid while dining indoors with 50 other vaccinated individuals is much greater than your risk of catching Covid in the Frederick Home Goods, while masked, regardless of whether those individuals are vaccinated or not.

Where did you get the idea that I am hopping around MoCo eating at restaurants though? All I said was that I stopped supporting Frederick establishments (stores and restaurants) because of their lax policies regarding COVID safety and my uneasiness about the customers going around unmasked. But if I were to go to a restaurant, yes I would feel safer going to one in MoCo vs Frederick.

When MoCo requires a vaccine passport, will you start dining in restaurants in MoCo?