Got reported to child protection service

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This is op. I did not know what that calls in English, and I google up, and yes, I did "coining". I was worried and left a message for the regular pediatrician to tell her what has happened and what I did. My kid does not take any herbal medicine and broths that I boiled for hours. I have not got any call from CPS, and I have learned my lesson. But you know what, coining does help to improve better health.

OP your pediatrician is a mandated reporter too. If the pediatrician disagrees with your cultural practices you will now have multiple people reporting you. You really need a lawyer. You can lose your kids this way.

OP is almost certainly not going to lose her kids over this one incident. CPS is loathe to remove kids from custody, well beyond the point when they should.

That said, OP, please don’t do this again. You can’t deliberately and repeatedly bruise your kids in this country, regardless of your personal cultural beliefs.

Absolutely she can. CPS can determine that because she insists on performing this abusive act and doesn't see it as abusive, they can make the determination to remove the children. The OP is now calling more mandated reporters to likely get her reported again. CPS has a ton of power. Anyone that deals with CPS knows that you take them 100% seriously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, if it was coming the daycare is still being ignorant and insensitive to culture.

OP should have explained. How on earth is someone expected to know what cupping and coining is if they are not from that culture?

Maybe someone like you should not be culturally ignorant. I knew exactly what it was from how OP described it. It was appropriate for the day care to call it in and speak to OP about it. Most people in the US know what cupping is but this isn't cupping. You don't do cupping on very young kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is op. I did not know what that calls in English, and I google up, and yes, I did "coining". I was worried and left a message for the regular pediatrician to tell her what has happened and what I did. My kid does not take any herbal medicine and broths that I boiled for hours. I have not got any call from CPS, and I have learned my lesson. But you know what, coining does help to improve better health.

OP your pediatrician is a mandated reporter too. If the pediatrician disagrees with your cultural practices you will now have multiple people reporting you. You really need a lawyer. You can lose your kids this way.

OP is almost certainly not going to lose her kids over this one incident. CPS is loathe to remove kids from custody, well beyond the point when they should.

That said, OP, please don’t do this again. You can’t deliberately and repeatedly bruise your kids in this country, regardless of your personal cultural beliefs.

Absolutely she can. CPS can determine that because she insists on performing this abusive act and doesn't see it as abusive, they can make the determination to remove the children. The OP is now calling more mandated reporters to likely get her reported again. CPS has a ton of power. Anyone that deals with CPS knows that you take them 100% seriously.

Having been a CPS worker, I had one family who engaged in coining but those kids were not in care because of the coining but because of mental health and substance abuse as well as severe neglect. The mom wasn't able to care for the kids. These kind of things get called in regularly. They are no abusive in and of itself. Stop being dramatic. It was appropriate for the day care to call but more than likely, worst case CPS will come in, talk to her, do a safety plan and help her understand why not to do it (but she can tell the worker she didn't know and has since spoken to others who explained its not an ok practice here) and then do a follow up visit or two. It would be very unlikely that CPS would provide ongoing services and even less likely to remove a child over this.

OP made a mistake. It is a well known cultural practice in some parts of Asia. Stop scaring them when its probably just ruled out. If CPS was going to remove or really concerned they would have come same day/next day. We live in a very diverse area.

[Anonymous]

OP, take your child to the doctor tomorrow just as a safety precaution. But, then just wait for the call/visit and if it doesn't happen in the next few days, don't worry about it and move on with your life. But, don't do things to leave bruises even if your child likes it as you risk this stuff happening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is op. I did not know what that calls in English, and I google up, and yes, I did "coining". I was worried and left a message for the regular pediatrician to tell her what has happened and what I did. My kid does not take any herbal medicine and broths that I boiled for hours. I have not got any call from CPS, and I have learned my lesson. But you know what, coining does help to improve better health.

OP your pediatrician is a mandated reporter too. If the pediatrician disagrees with your cultural practices you will now have multiple people reporting you. You really need a lawyer. You can lose your kids this way.

OP is almost certainly not going to lose her kids over this one incident. CPS is loathe to remove kids from custody, well beyond the point when they should.

That said, OP, please don’t do this again. You can’t deliberately and repeatedly bruise your kids in this country, regardless of your personal cultural beliefs.

Absolutely she can. CPS can determine that because she insists on performing this abusive act and doesn't see it as abusive, they can make the determination to remove the children. The OP is now calling more mandated reporters to likely get her reported again. CPS has a ton of power. Anyone that deals with CPS knows that you take them 100% seriously.

Having been a CPS worker, I had one family who engaged in coining but those kids were not in care because of the coining but because of mental health and substance abuse as well as severe neglect. The mom wasn't able to care for the kids. These kind of things get called in regularly. They are no abusive in and of itself. Stop being dramatic. It was appropriate for the day care to call but more than likely, worst case CPS will come in, talk to her, do a safety plan and help her understand why not to do it (but she can tell the worker she didn't know and has since spoken to others who explained its not an ok practice here) and then do a follow up visit or two. It would be very unlikely that CPS would provide ongoing services and even less likely to remove a child over this.

OP made a mistake. It is a well known cultural practice in some parts of Asia. Stop scaring them when its probably just ruled out. If CPS was going to remove or really concerned they would have come same day/next day. We live in a very diverse area.

At no time has the OP stated that it was a mistake. The OP is insisting that it is a part of her culture. If she continues down this path how would you handle it in CPS? Allow the child to continue to be bruised?

[Anonymous]

I can't believe no one in this thread has told the OP not to talk to CPS. At least, not without a lawyer present, and certainly don't agree to a home visit/inspection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How inexperienced are they that they have never heard on mongolian spots!!

Mongolian spots aren't cultural. They also don't appear overnight, necessitating a note in the backpack

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is OP. I have never got reported elsewhere, and this is my first time ever. I am not from here (excuse my writing), and I have 3 beautiful children, and my oldest is 10, and this is my youngest. The treatment is similar to cupping (but not exactly like that), and it is used in my home county and some foreigners pay for this here. They are bruise like, but they will be gone in days and painless. My child has been feeling a bit under weather for weeks, but he is not really sick. So, I decided to do that on him to make him feel better.

DH tells me that I will be fine because CPS can google up the treatment (I did not pay for treatment and I did that myself ) if they want. I have done that to my family members (DH and my parents) and my other children before for years, so I know what I am doing and I am not hurting my child.

Wow, you sure went from "I don't want to give many details" to sharing a lot. Kudos to daycare for doing their job

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just show them the cups. And maybe a picture of Michael Phelps and Gwenyth Paltrow with their cup marks. I'm a big fan of the cups for muscle pain.

Are you a big fan of cups for a kid young enough to be in daycare?

Yes, medical advice from Gwyneth Paltrow is always evidence based

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe no one in this thread has told the OP not to talk to CPS. At least, not without a lawyer present, and certainly don't agree to a home visit/inspection.

I did. Then a CPS worker said it's not necessary

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who says "I have a few children"?

And it turns out to be 3

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is op. I did not know what that calls in English, and I google up, and yes, I did "coining". I was worried and left a message for the regular pediatrician to tell her what has happened and what I did. My kid does not take any herbal medicine and broths that I boiled for hours. I have not got any call from CPS, and I have learned my lesson. But you know what, coining does help to improve better health.

OP your pediatrician is a mandated reporter too. If the pediatrician disagrees with your cultural practices you will now have multiple people reporting you. You really need a lawyer. You can lose your kids this way.

OP is almost certainly not going to lose her kids over this one incident. CPS is loathe to remove kids from custody, well beyond the point when they should.

That said, OP, please don’t do this again. You can’t deliberately and repeatedly bruise your kids in this country, regardless of your personal cultural beliefs.

Absolutely she can. CPS can determine that because she insists on performing this abusive act and doesn't see it as abusive, they can make the determination to remove the children. The OP is now calling more mandated reporters to likely get her reported again. CPS has a ton of power. Anyone that deals with CPS knows that you take them 100% seriously.

Having been a CPS worker, I had one family who engaged in coining but those kids were not in care because of the coining but because of mental health and substance abuse as well as severe neglect. The mom wasn't able to care for the kids. These kind of things get called in regularly. They are no abusive in and of itself. Stop being dramatic. It was appropriate for the day care to call but more than likely, worst case CPS will come in, talk to her, do a safety plan and help her understand why not to do it (but she can tell the worker she didn't know and has since spoken to others who explained its not an ok practice here) and then do a follow up visit or two. It would be very unlikely that CPS would provide ongoing services and even less likely to remove a child over this.

OP made a mistake. It is a well known cultural practice in some parts of Asia. Stop scaring them when its probably just ruled out. If CPS was going to remove or really concerned they would have come same day/next day. We live in a very diverse area.

At no time has the OP stated that it was a mistake. The OP is insisting that it is a part of her culture. If she continues down this path how would you handle it in CPS? Allow the child to continue to be bruised?

It is part of her culture.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe no one in this thread has told the OP not to talk to CPS. At least, not without a lawyer present, and certainly don't agree to a home visit/inspection.

I did. Then a CPS worker said it's not necessary

If you get an attorney involved, they will have to get an attorney and it will draw out the process and make it more confrontative. The CPS worker cannot talk to OP and an attorney without a county attorney and possibly a supervisor involved. OP just needs to talk to them, be honest, get the child cleared by the doctor and don't do it anymore.

[Anonymous]

Listen to the podcast “do no harm”. Have your attorney present.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is op. I did not know what that calls in English, and I google up, and yes, I did "coining". I was worried and left a message for the regular pediatrician to tell her what has happened and what I did. My kid does not take any herbal medicine and broths that I boiled for hours. I have not got any call from CPS, and I have learned my lesson. But you know what, coining does help to improve better health.

OP your pediatrician is a mandated reporter too. If the pediatrician disagrees with your cultural practices you will now have multiple people reporting you. You really need a lawyer. You can lose your kids this way.

OP is almost certainly not going to lose her kids over this one incident. CPS is loathe to remove kids from custody, well beyond the point when they should.

That said, OP, please don’t do this again. You can’t deliberately and repeatedly bruise your kids in this country, regardless of your personal cultural beliefs.

Absolutely she can. CPS can determine that because she insists on performing this abusive act and doesn't see it as abusive, they can make the determination to remove the children. The OP is now calling more mandated reporters to likely get her reported again. CPS has a ton of power. Anyone that deals with CPS knows that you take them 100% seriously.

Having been a CPS worker, I had one family who engaged in coining but those kids were not in care because of the coining but because of mental health and substance abuse as well as severe neglect. The mom wasn't able to care for the kids. These kind of things get called in regularly. They are no abusive in and of itself. Stop being dramatic. It was appropriate for the day care to call but more than likely, worst case CPS will come in, talk to her, do a safety plan and help her understand why not to do it (but she can tell the worker she didn't know and has since spoken to others who explained its not an ok practice here) and then do a follow up visit or two. It would be very unlikely that CPS would provide ongoing services and even less likely to remove a child over this.

OP made a mistake. It is a well known cultural practice in some parts of Asia. Stop scaring them when its probably just ruled out. If CPS was going to remove or really concerned they would have come same day/next day. We live in a very diverse area.

At no time has the OP stated that it was a mistake. The OP is insisting that it is a part of her culture. If she continues down this path how would you handle it in CPS? Allow the child to continue to be bruised?

It is part of her culture.

Oh CPS policy allows parents to injured their children while performing cultural activities?