Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why was Gordon Sonderlund even sniffing Ukraine? It has NOTHING to do with this appointed role to the EU. None.

Ambassador to Ukraine is not a cushy post, so there isn't a Trump donor appointee there, but Trump and Pompeo only work through Trump's political appointees who they know will participate in criminal conspiracies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Call me”.

Now I have Debbie Harry stuck on my brain.

Great theme song for the investigation.

Beats "Call me maybe" which is what I had on my brain.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:holy crap

https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/a/4/a4a91fab-99cd-4eb9-9c6c-ec1c586494b9/621801458E982E9903839ABC7404A917.chairmen-letter-on-state-departmnent-texts-10-03-19.pdf

the text messages are attached.

Forgive me if this has already been posted.

Very interesting, thanks.

My question: did Volker hope to avoid jail by resigning and cooperating with the investigation?
All the participants in these texts are clearly implicated, even Bill Taylor who texted his misgivings and wrote that it was "crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."

These texts are the smoking gun.

And what disgusting liars those GOP Congressmen are to come out after the hearing and say that it's a nothingburger.

They are truly destroying our country.

This is a smoking gun against Trump?

This combined with the rest of the string does seem to be a smoking gun. And that string isn't the whole thing - they are planning to release more.

The texts on July 25 before and after the call are the smoking guns IMO. The ones into August and September are CYA. Taylor was pretty naive with some of the stuff he put into text.

7/25 (before call):
Volker: Good lunch - thanks. Heard from White House - assuming President Z convinced trump he will investigate/"get to the bottom of what happened" in 2016, we ill nail down date for visit to Washington. Good luck! See you tomorrow - kurt

7/25 (after call)
Yermak: Phone call went well. President Trump proposed to choose any convenient dates. ...

9/1:
Taylor: Are we going to say that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?
Gordon: Call me

This stuff is just nuts.

Taylor was not naive. He was appalled and wanted his objections on the record. He knew that texting it that explicitly would rattle Sondland, who had no business being involved in Ukraine at all, but was included because he was the political appointee who spoke to Trump and Pompeo. Taylor came out of retirement to help Ukraine against Russia and was pissed that the military assistance was being held up for Trump's "deliverable" e.g., a public commitment from Zelensky for the "investigations". Taylor obviously objected in phone calls to Sondland, and put his position on the record in the texts.

I love Taylor. When is he coming before Congress?

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I love that he’s pretending to play stupid in that text to get it on record.

Former State here - worked with Bill Taylor on Afghanistan. The notion of him being naive made me laugh out loud. This guy is as seasoned as they get. He knew exactly what he was doing. Sondland is a political hack, and no one would respond to a conversational text like that if it wasn’t a CYA.

[Anonymous]

Jared to lead the White House war room.

[Anonymous]

They text about contacting "Fiona's replacement" to try to get Trump to commit to a meeting with Zelensky.

Fiona Hill was the White House senior director for Russia and Europe. She resigned a week before the Trump call with Zelensky.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/30/fiona-hill-russia-trump-adviser-228758

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was Gordon Sonderlund even sniffing Ukraine? It has NOTHING to do with this appointed role to the EU. None.

Ambassador to Ukraine is not a cushy post, so there isn't a Trump donor appointee there, but Trump and Pompeo only work through Trump's political appointees who they know will participate in criminal conspiracies.

Volunteer Envoy to Ukraine, unpaid, isn't cushy either.

I know the internal conversation, "Is it better, for the country or personally, if I stay or better if I go?" that Volker was having constantly. It's impossible to know the right answer.

[Anonymous]

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These text messages are damning. I seriously question the basic brain function of anyone who would read them and not see that.

Astonishing there are people who read this and come up with anything other than total quid pro quo smoking gun.

Yup. Stop engaging with Trumpers. Just outvote them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was Gordon Sonderlund even sniffing Ukraine? It has NOTHING to do with this appointed role to the EU. None.

Political appointee Trumplicker who gave a million bucks to the inaugural committee.

Some good background here:
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2018/05/trump_nominates_portland_hotel.html

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Anonymous wrote:holy crap

https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/a/4/a4a91fab-99cd-4eb9-9c6c-ec1c586494b9/621801458E982E9903839ABC7404A917.chairmen-letter-on-state-departmnent-texts-10-03-19.pdf

the text messages are attached.

Forgive me if this has already been posted.

Very interesting, thanks.

My question: did Volker hope to avoid jail by resigning and cooperating with the investigation?
All the participants in these texts are clearly implicated, even Bill Taylor who texted his misgivings and wrote that it was "crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."

These texts are the smoking gun.

And what disgusting liars those GOP Congressmen are to come out after the hearing and say that it's a nothingburger.

They are truly destroying our country.

This is a smoking gun against Trump?

This combined with the rest of the string does seem to be a smoking gun. And that string isn't the whole thing - they are planning to release more.

The texts on July 25 before and after the call are the smoking guns IMO. The ones into August and September are CYA. Taylor was pretty naive with some of the stuff he put into text.

7/25 (before call):
Volker: Good lunch - thanks. Heard from White House - assuming President Z convinced trump he will investigate/"get to the bottom of what happened" in 2016, we ill nail down date for visit to Washington. Good luck! See you tomorrow - kurt

7/25 (after call)
Yermak: Phone call went well. President Trump proposed to choose any convenient dates. ...

9/1:
Taylor: Are we going to say that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?
Gordon: Call me

This stuff is just nuts.

Taylor was not naive. He was appalled and wanted his objections on the record. He knew that texting it that explicitly would rattle Sondland, who had no business being involved in Ukraine at all, but was included because he was the political appointee who spoke to Trump and Pompeo. Taylor came out of retirement to help Ukraine against Russia and was pissed that the military assistance was being held up for Trump's "deliverable" e.g., a public commitment from Zelensky for the "investigations". Taylor obviously objected in phone calls to Sondland, and put his position on the record in the texts.

I love Taylor. When is he coming before Congress?

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I love that he’s pretending to play stupid in that text to get it on record.

Former State here - worked with Bill Taylor on Afghanistan. The notion of him being naive made me laugh out loud. This guy is as seasoned as they get. He knew exactly what he was doing. Sondland is a political hack, and no one would respond to a conversational text like that if it wasn’t a CYA.

Sounded to me like Taylor was exasperated. That Volker/Sondland didn't know why exactly Trump was holding everything but were under the impression that it was over the political dirt. At tat point Taylor wanted to out it on the record and talk clearly.

Also, a lot of people seemed to have quit/got fired at the time this was happening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:holy crap

https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/a/4/a4a91fab-99cd-4eb9-9c6c-ec1c586494b9/621801458E982E9903839ABC7404A917.chairmen-letter-on-state-departmnent-texts-10-03-19.pdf

the text messages are attached.

Forgive me if this has already been posted.

Very interesting, thanks.

My question: did Volker hope to avoid jail by resigning and cooperating with the investigation?
All the participants in these texts are clearly implicated, even Bill Taylor who texted his misgivings and wrote that it was "crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."

These texts are the smoking gun.

And what disgusting liars those GOP Congressmen are to come out after the hearing and say that it's a nothingburger.

They are truly destroying our country.

This is a smoking gun against Trump?

This combined with the rest of the string does seem to be a smoking gun. And that string isn't the whole thing - they are planning to release more.

The texts on July 25 before and after the call are the smoking guns IMO. The ones into August and September are CYA. Taylor was pretty naive with some of the stuff he put into text.

7/25 (before call):
Volker: Good lunch - thanks. Heard from White House - assuming President Z convinced trump he will investigate/"get to the bottom of what happened" in 2016, we ill nail down date for visit to Washington. Good luck! See you tomorrow - kurt

7/25 (after call)
Yermak: Phone call went well. President Trump proposed to choose any convenient dates. ...

9/1:
Taylor: Are we going to say that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?
Gordon: Call me

This stuff is just nuts.

Taylor was not naive. He was appalled and wanted his objections on the record. He knew that texting it that explicitly would rattle Sondland, who had no business being involved in Ukraine at all, but was included because he was the political appointee who spoke to Trump and Pompeo. Taylor came out of retirement to help Ukraine against Russia and was pissed that the military assistance was being held up for Trump's "deliverable" e.g., a public commitment from Zelensky for the "investigations". Taylor obviously objected in phone calls to Sondland, and put his position on the record in the texts.

I love Taylor. When is he coming before Congress?

+2
I love that he’s pretending to play stupid in that text to get it on record.

Former State here - worked with Bill Taylor on Afghanistan. The notion of him being naive made me laugh out loud. This guy is as seasoned as they get. He knew exactly what he was doing. Sondland is a political hack, and no one would respond to a conversational text like that if it wasn’t a CYA.

Sounded to me like Taylor was exasperated. That Volker/Sondland didn't know why exactly Trump was holding everything but were under the impression that it was over the political dirt. At tat point Taylor wanted to out it on the record and talk clearly.

Also, a lot of people seemed to have quit/got fired at the time this was happening.

"Thus my nightmare scenario" = exasperated???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:holy crap

https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/a/4/a4a91fab-99cd-4eb9-9c6c-ec1c586494b9/621801458E982E9903839ABC7404A917.chairmen-letter-on-state-departmnent-texts-10-03-19.pdf

the text messages are attached.

Forgive me if this has already been posted.

Very interesting, thanks.

My question: did Volker hope to avoid jail by resigning and cooperating with the investigation?
All the participants in these texts are clearly implicated, even Bill Taylor who texted his misgivings and wrote that it was "crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."

These texts are the smoking gun.

And what disgusting liars those GOP Congressmen are to come out after the hearing and say that it's a nothingburger.

They are truly destroying our country.

This is a smoking gun against Trump?

This combined with the rest of the string does seem to be a smoking gun. And that string isn't the whole thing - they are planning to release more.

The texts on July 25 before and after the call are the smoking guns IMO. The ones into August and September are CYA. Taylor was pretty naive with some of the stuff he put into text.

7/25 (before call):
Volker: Good lunch - thanks. Heard from White House - assuming President Z convinced trump he will investigate/"get to the bottom of what happened" in 2016, we ill nail down date for visit to Washington. Good luck! See you tomorrow - kurt

7/25 (after call)
Yermak: Phone call went well. President Trump proposed to choose any convenient dates. ...

9/1:
Taylor: Are we going to say that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?
Gordon: Call me

This stuff is just nuts.

Taylor was not naive. He was appalled and wanted his objections on the record. He knew that texting it that explicitly would rattle Sondland, who had no business being involved in Ukraine at all, but was included because he was the political appointee who spoke to Trump and Pompeo. Taylor came out of retirement to help Ukraine against Russia and was pissed that the military assistance was being held up for Trump's "deliverable" e.g., a public commitment from Zelensky for the "investigations". Taylor obviously objected in phone calls to Sondland, and put his position on the record in the texts.

I love Taylor. When is he coming before Congress?

+2
I love that he’s pretending to play stupid in that text to get it on record.

Former State here - worked with Bill Taylor on Afghanistan. The notion of him being naive made me laugh out loud. This guy is as seasoned as they get. He knew exactly what he was doing. Sondland is a political hack, and no one would respond to a conversational text like that if it wasn’t a CYA.

Sounded to me like Taylor was exasperated. That Volker/Sondland didn't know why exactly Trump was holding everything but were under the impression that it was over the political dirt. At tat point Taylor wanted to out it on the record and talk clearly.

Also, a lot of people seemed to have quit/got fired at the time this was happening.

"Thus my nightmare scenario" = exasperated???

That sounds pretty exasperated about the whole political shenanigans to me!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when Obama asked Netanyahu to find dirt on Romney, or else US was going to withhold funds from Israel. It was astonishing that Hillary Clinton and her staff executed the shakedown, that Joe Biden made a personal ask of Bibi and Eric Holders DOJ covered it up.

I am glad they are all in jail now.

And to add, it was even worse when Obama told Iran it could have the eastern part of Israel.

I know right?!?! What duplicitous traitors!!!!

And worst of all, when he announced it, he was WEARING A TAN SUIT!! While is wife had on a sleeveless dress!!!

God I miss the pointless “scandals”.

[Anonymous]

also said he would quit if ukraine didn't get the money

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Call me”.

Now I have Debbie Harry stuck on my brain.

Great theme song for the investigation.

Beats "Call me maybe" which is what I had on my brain.

Me Too!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:also said he would quit if ukraine didn't get the money

Volker? Taylor?