Lebanon / Israel

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The West Bank also had higher high school graduation rates for men and women in the 70s than Israel.

This is why the Israeli excellence myth is so comedic. Israel got refugees for 40 years who left with just the clothes on their back and nothing else. It was a soup kitchen when it began

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Anonymous wrote:Although it was a project conceived in Europe by Europeans and for European Jews, they lacked sufficient numbers to build a population large enough to conquer the indigenous Palestinian population. Thus, recruitment of Jews from the surrounding Arab world was a necessary inconvenience. They did so through propaganda and by creating false flag terror incidents (bombing of synagogues or Jewish centres) in order provoke an exodus of Arab Jews. A prime example of this happened in Iraq, where the oldest Jewish community in the world had lived for millennia as contributing members of Iraqi society, and who prospered, contributed to the arts and the economy, and participated in government.

But these Jews were not embraced as brethren by European Zionists. Zionism was decidedly colonial, and that meant that Jews of the Arab world were seen as incomplete, barbaric, dirty, uncivilised. Za’ev Jabotinsky, one of the forefathers of Zionism said, “We Jews have nothing in common with what is called the Orient, thank God. To the extent that our uneducated masses [Arab Jews] have ancient spiritual traditions and laws that call the Orient, they must be weaned away from them, and this is in fact what we are doing in every decent school, what life itself is doing with great success. We are going in Palestine, first for our national convenience, [second] to sweep out thoroughly all traces of the Oriental soul.”

One of the most egregious was a large initiative of stealing the babies of Arab Jews and giving them to be raised by European Jews. But the larger efforts were simple propaganda campaigns that were implemented in schools, communities, and national projects.

In essence, it was a project to strip ancient peoples of their identities, which was not unlike what they tried to do to Palestinians. Zionists were trying to create a new nation with a unified people. So, they could not abide allowing parts of this population to continue to identify as Iraqi, Moroccan, Persian, Tunisian, and so on, and certainly not as Arab Jews. At the same time, the racist impulses of colonialism could not abide putting these people on par with Jews of Europe. They could not simply be Jews in the new Jewish state.

Thus, the word Mizrahim, from the Hebrew and Arabic words meaning “those of the East,” was popularised to lump all of these peoples of different nations into a single miscellaneous category that erased their individual ancient histories and cultures that spanned thousands of years of life and tradition, replete with countless and invaluable achievements in their respective nations.

Before Israel, Jews of Iraq identified as Iraqi, of Morocco as Moroccan, of Tunisia as Tunisian, of Iran as Persian, of Syria as Syrian, of Egypt as Egyptian, and of Palestine as Palestinian. They spoke Arabic, ate the same foods as their Christian and Muslim compatriots, celebrated and partook in the same national events and traditions, lived by the same social protocols, and moved through their respective cultures as other natives did. And despite the similarities of their cultures, Tunisians were distinct from Egyptians, who were both distinct from Iraqis, who were distinct from Moroccans, etc. But Israel collapsed them all under a single identity, which was to be distinguished only from Ashkenazis, European Jews, who were higher up on the social order.

sounds like America! you know, land of immigrants.
and all.

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Anonymous wrote:I care about foreign policy, but I am honestly so exhausted by the Middle East issue that I'm that Ken Watanabe Let Them Fight meme.

I feel bad for the normal, regular Israeli and Lebanese people just trying to live their lives.

The Lebanese Christians want nothing more than Hezbollah to be eradicated. Terrorists have effectively taken over the country. It is very sad, but Hezbollah terrorists are not stepping down until Israel is erased from the map, and they have deep pockets thanks to Iran.

People said west bankers hate Gazans, neighboring Arabs hate Palestinians, Lebanese Christian’s hate the Lebanese Muslims or hezbollah or even that Muslims hate Jews. None of this is true and if you’re perpetuating these myths I don’t think you actually know people from these groups. Sure, refugees and people in need are shunned around the world but by and large these groups are sympathetic to each other. They interact and relate to pain, struggle, and loss. I suppose drawing lines of division and making fun of the weakest is more fun. Nobody in the region is normal and regular anymore. There is fear, resentment, and trauma, stoked by impunity and propaganda.

People in the Middle East region in particular the Levant and Egypt have existed with multi faith, ethnic , and class markers without problem Something unfamiliar to the Askhenazis and the commies who came
There battle ready,
Soviet trained, and angry and ready to sow divisions.

The people there don’t even think being armed to the teeth or one religion taking an entire neighborhood because “God said so” is something normal and Jews were laughed and these Soviets were laughed at by other Middle eastern Jews. it wasn’t the way things were done but alas here we are with Euro sectarianism, religious nativism, and hyper militarism exported to the traditionally
Multi class and multi faith Levant

Your gibberish is laughable.

The Middle East has been the site of countless religiously motivated wars, going back to the Romans and prior.

Your hatred for Ashkenazi Jews—many of whom didn’t even live in the Soviet Union—is disgusting.

Going back to the Romans? We are not talking about the Crusades sweetheart. The crusades were not Arab Christian vs Arab Muslim. It was euro Christian vs Arab Muslim, Christian, and Jew.

There would probably be no Jews living today if it weren’t for the Middle East’s sanity compared to Europe. It was always the Jewish hotel. There for the stay because you didn’t have a home

You forgot about the systematic Arab imperialist oppression over Christians and Jews for centuries.

Is it Arab imperialism or Islamic imperialism? Let’s be real here.

Jews were considered dhimmi across the Middle East. Basically that meant they were there by invitation and had to adhere to rules dictated to them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi

Sweetheart, attempting to tell yourself Jews had it worse in Arab countries than they did in Europe, because you've chosen to embrace white supremacy as it currently suits Zionism, doesn't work with me. It's why Polish Jews like Bibi are now blaming Palestinians for the Holocaust. I know Iraqi Jews who were among the wealthiest in Baghdad and it was only after Zionism showed up, did it go to sh*t. You can play this game with some rube in the DMV, but I know what you're doing now is desperation to align yourself with white Christianity by minimizing what they did to Jews in Europe and lying to yourself about how Jews were treated much worse in the Mideast. It's a shanda on your part doing this.

Agree. While Jews were being slaughtered in European countries (inquisition in Spain, holocaust in Germany, pogroms in Eastern Europe, etc.), they sought safety and shelter in ARAB and muslim countries. It’s why before the creation of Israel, there were sizable Jewish populations all over the Middle East and North Africa. Where they lived in peace with their neighbors. My own Arab family had many Jewish neighbors in my home country. On Saturdays, it was their Muslim neighbors who would help them turn on lights, ovens, etc.

100 years ago Egypt had a Jew in its cabinet. Now in Muslim countries it is difficult for Jews to just be.

I’m not sure why these loons are talking about ancient history. It really is irrelevant when now the majority of the Middle East is “from the river to the sea”.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend’s aunt in Lebanon was killed today when she left her apartment to go see her children.

A real and innocent person.

Anyone who is cheering for Israel at this point is deeply disturbed.

My friends child in Israel was killed last month when he was playing outside.

A real and innocent child.

Anyone who is cheering for Hezbollah at this point is deeply disturbed.

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Anonymous wrote:They are fighting whoever is nice to them as usual. They did it to Russia with the revolution. And Middle East with “Israel”. Killing the only people who saved their lives and were nice to them throughout history.

Russia was who beat Hitler. Muslims protected Jews from the “Christ killer” happy Europeans

Nice to them?

Look up dhimmi.

Jews have been oppressed throughout the Arab world for centuries.

They have unquestionably made out better in the Middle East than in Germany in the 30s.

Only because they are armed to the teeth, which the Jews in Europe were not.

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Anonymous wrote:They are fighting whoever is nice to them as usual. They did it to Russia with the revolution. And Middle East with “Israel”. Killing the only people who saved their lives and were nice to them throughout history.

Russia was who beat Hitler. Muslims protected Jews from the “Christ killer” happy Europeans

Nice to them?

Look up dhimmi.

Jews have been oppressed throughout the Arab world for centuries.

They have unquestionably made out better in the Middle East than in Germany in the 30s.

Only because they are armed to the teeth, which the Jews in Europe were not.

And some Jews decided they had better be armed in order to survive, after what happened in Europe.

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Anonymous wrote:They are fighting whoever is nice to them as usual. They did it to Russia with the revolution. And Middle East with “Israel”. Killing the only people who saved their lives and were nice to them throughout history.

Russia was who beat Hitler. Muslims protected Jews from the “Christ killer” happy Europeans

Nice to them?

Look up dhimmi.

Jews have been oppressed throughout the Arab world for centuries.

They have unquestionably made out better in the Middle East than in Germany in the 30s.

Only because they are armed to the teeth, which the Jews in Europe were not.

And some Jews decided they had better be armed in order to survive, after what happened in Europe.

Arming themselves to the teeth has led to callous indifference (at best) regarding how others are mistreated, which has placed an enormous, pulsating bullseye on their backs.

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Anonymous wrote:I care about foreign policy, but I am honestly so exhausted by the Middle East issue that I'm that Ken Watanabe Let Them Fight meme.

I feel bad for the normal, regular Israeli and Lebanese people just trying to live their lives.

The Lebanese Christians want nothing more than Hezbollah to be eradicated. Terrorists have effectively taken over the country. It is very sad, but Hezbollah terrorists are not stepping down until Israel is erased from the map, and they have deep pockets thanks to Iran.

People said west bankers hate Gazans, neighboring Arabs hate Palestinians, Lebanese Christian’s hate the Lebanese Muslims or hezbollah or even that Muslims hate Jews. None of this is true and if you’re perpetuating these myths I don’t think you actually know people from these groups. Sure, refugees and people in need are shunned around the world but by and large these groups are sympathetic to each other. They interact and relate to pain, struggle, and loss. I suppose drawing lines of division and making fun of the weakest is more fun. Nobody in the region is normal and regular anymore. There is fear, resentment, and trauma, stoked by impunity and propaganda.

People in the Middle East region in particular the Levant and Egypt have existed with multi faith, ethnic , and class markers without problem Something unfamiliar to the Askhenazis and the commies who came
There battle ready,
Soviet trained, and angry and ready to sow divisions.

The people there don’t even think being armed to the teeth or one religion taking an entire neighborhood because “God said so” is something normal and Jews were laughed and these Soviets were laughed at by other Middle eastern Jews. it wasn’t the way things were done but alas here we are with Euro sectarianism, religious nativism, and hyper militarism exported to the traditionally
Multi class and multi faith Levant

Your gibberish is laughable.

The Middle East has been the site of countless religiously motivated wars, going back to the Romans and prior.

Your hatred for Ashkenazi Jews—many of whom didn’t even live in the Soviet Union—is disgusting.

Going back to the Romans? We are not talking about the Crusades sweetheart. The crusades were not Arab Christian vs Arab Muslim. It was euro Christian vs Arab Muslim, Christian, and Jew.

There would probably be no Jews living today if it weren’t for the Middle East’s sanity compared to Europe. It was always the Jewish hotel. There for the stay because you didn’t have a home

You forgot about the systematic Arab imperialist oppression over Christians and Jews for centuries.

Is it Arab imperialism or Islamic imperialism? Let’s be real here.

Jews were considered dhimmi across the Middle East. Basically that meant they were there by invitation and had to adhere to rules dictated to them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi

Sweetheart, attempting to tell yourself Jews had it worse in Arab countries than they did in Europe, because you've chosen to embrace white supremacy as it currently suits Zionism, doesn't work with me. It's why Polish Jews like Bibi are now blaming Palestinians for the Holocaust. I know Iraqi Jews who were among the wealthiest in Baghdad and it was only after Zionism showed up, did it go to sh*t. You can play this game with some rube in the DMV, but I know what you're doing now is desperation to align yourself with white Christianity by minimizing what they did to Jews in Europe and lying to yourself about how Jews were treated much worse in the Mideast. It's a shanda on your part doing this.

Agree. While Jews were being slaughtered in European countries (inquisition in Spain, holocaust in Germany, pogroms in Eastern Europe, etc.), they sought safety and shelter in ARAB and muslim countries. It’s why before the creation of Israel, there were sizable Jewish populations all over the Middle East and North Africa. Where they lived in peace with their neighbors. My own Arab family had many Jewish neighbors in my home country. On Saturdays, it was their Muslim neighbors who would help them turn on lights, ovens, etc.

100 years ago Egypt had a Jew in its cabinet. Now in Muslim countries it is difficult for Jews to just be.

I’m not sure why these loons are talking about ancient history. It really is irrelevant when now the majority of the Middle East is “from the river to the sea”.

Including Likud!

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Anonymous wrote:My friend’s aunt in Lebanon was killed today when she left her apartment to go see her children.

A real and innocent person.

Anyone who is cheering for Israel at this point is deeply disturbed.

My friends child in Israel was killed last month when he was playing outside.

A real and innocent child.

Anyone who is cheering for Hezbollah at this point is deeply disturbed.

Link, since that would certainly have resulted in reporting?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friend’s aunt in Lebanon was killed today when she left her apartment to go see her children.

A real and innocent person.

Anyone who is cheering for Israel at this point is deeply disturbed.

My friends child in Israel was killed last month when he was playing outside.

A real and innocent child.

Anyone who is cheering for Hezbollah at this point is deeply disturbed.

No one is cheering for Hezbollah, moron! But we are cheering against the genocide being committed by Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friend’s aunt in Lebanon was killed today when she left her apartment to go see her children.

A real and innocent person.

Anyone who is cheering for Israel at this point is deeply disturbed.

My friends child in Israel was killed last month when he was playing outside.

A real and innocent child.

Anyone who is cheering for Hezbollah at this point is deeply disturbed.

No one is cheering for Hezbollah, moron! But we are cheering against the genocide being committed by Israel.

Plenty of people on this thread want Israel to be eliminated and Hezbollah is bent on that.

So … yeah. There’s support for Hezbollah here.

[Anonymous]

There is no genocide. Sheesh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no genocide. Sheesh.

You don't call what happened in Gaza genocide??

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Anonymous wrote:My friend’s aunt in Lebanon was killed today when she left her apartment to go see her children.

A real and innocent person.

Anyone who is cheering for Israel at this point is deeply disturbed.

My friends child in Israel was killed last month when he was playing outside.

A real and innocent child.

Anyone who is cheering for Hezbollah at this point is deeply disturbed.

No one is cheering for Hezbollah, moron! But we are cheering against the genocide being committed by Israel.

Plenty of people on this thread want Israel to be eliminated and Hezbollah is bent on that.

So … yeah. There’s support for Hezbollah here.

Then Israel needs to take it up with Iran.

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Anonymous wrote:They are fighting whoever is nice to them as usual. They did it to Russia with the revolution. And Middle East with “Israel”. Killing the only people who saved their lives and were nice to them throughout history.

Russia was who beat Hitler. Muslims protected Jews from the “Christ killer” happy Europeans

Nice to them?

Look up dhimmi.

Jews have been oppressed throughout the Arab world for centuries.

They have unquestionably made out better in the Middle East than in Germany in the 30s.

Only because they are armed to the teeth, which the Jews in Europe were not.

And some Jews decided they had better be armed in order to survive, after what happened in Europe.

Arming themselves to the teeth has led to callous indifference (at best) regarding how others are mistreated, which has placed an enormous, pulsating bullseye on their backs.

It is quite literally the only reason why it hasn’t been genocided by its neighbors.