Why are kids with problematic behavior left in mainstream classes

Anonymous
Why isn't there any plan in place for kids who are so disruptive in elementary school classes?
Teachers get no aides and they have some kids who need constant supervision or they might hurt another child.

I know parents who have to pull their well behaved kids out of school because classmates who terrorize them are left in the class without any intervention.

I honestly don't know the answer and Covid has certainly changed the development for many kids but it seems like once a school knows a child is dangerous to other students, it's a huge liability to leave them in class. I know the teachers are doing their best but they can't watch one child the entire day or the entire class suffers.

Is MCPS trying to do anything like behavior modification to help these young kids who just can't seem to handle mainstream classes?

Anonymous
I haven't actually experienced this in MCPS, but I've dealt with these issues in other jurisdictions. Generally speaking the answer is that it's cheaper to keep them in mainstream classes.
Anonymous
There’s no other placements available. There’s only a handful of settings that are appropriate and only well-connected parents know how to get their kids in one. Can’t afford to sue? Your child stays in the classroom, even if they maim someone.
Anonymous
Here’s your answer OP. This is so freakin’ on point:

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Anonymous
Stop blaming Covid. School has been in person two full years. It’s a parenting and school issue. It’s rare a teacher has good full control and most give up and do nothing as the parents don’t care. And, those of us who do, it’s a constant battle.
Anonymous
1. Parents are in denial that their child has a problem and won't allow it
2. Central office will not allow a placement until you've collected so much data. And then they tell you that you need to collect more. Or that you collected it wrong. Anything to avoid a special placement that costs so much money. The strategy is to delay and deny.
3. There aren't enough special ed teachers now to handle all the pandemic kids, or the special ed kids in general, and you want to add more?
4. Least Restrictive Environment. Every child is to be placed I the Least Restrictive Environment where they can succeed. Oh, they can't succeed in a mainstream class? See 1, 2, and 3 above
Anonymous
There is nowhere for them to go
Anonymous
It's the law.

These type of kids used to be suspended and then if they continued to be a problem they would be in separate special ed classes.

Kids no longer get discipline in school so they can just roam around in the classroom. Separate special ed classes no longer exist.

Taxpayers need to work at changing the laws so that all kids get a peaceful classroom that kids can learn in.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's the law.

These type of kids used to be suspended and then if they continued to be a problem they would be in separate special ed classes.

Kids no longer get discipline in school so they can just roam around in the classroom. Separate special ed classes no longer exist.

Taxpayers need to work at changing the laws so that all kids get a peaceful classroom that kids can learn in.


When I was a kid, the students with behavioral issues were in remedial classes. I do think that was the best system.
Anonymous
It’s because of parents who refuse to believe their “little angels” are the problem and instead blame schools and teachers for their kids’ bad behavior and the admins and school boards who enable and coddle those parents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There’s no other placements available. There’s only a handful of settings that are appropriate and only well-connected parents know how to get their kids in one. Can’t afford to sue? Your child stays in the classroom, even if they maim someone.


+1 There are only a handful of settings and they can cost anywhere from $30-50$+ dollars of which the district must pay the cost(which may or may not have an adjustment). There are not enough Special education and counselors to help all kids. Some parents are in denial about their kids problems which makes getting them evaluated harder and takes longer.

The Central Office Special Education Assoc Superintendent is honest about all of these. She’s even briefed the BOE about these things.
Anonymous
Yea, what happened to detentions and suspensions. I’m a taxpayer, I want those back for whom deserves it!!!

And wth is the restorative justices crap?!
Anonymous
Teachershave no power to control their classrooms but they are blamed for everything then discarded. Welcome to education as they say.
Anonymous
Least Restrictive Environment.

Everyone else suffers for it.
Anonymous
Because it’s cheaper and because the kids need to be in the least restrictive environment.
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