Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

[Anonymous]

What do you bet the next talking point is "Gordon stated in his text that there was no quid pro quo. Witch hunt!"

[Anonymous]

Astonishing there are people who read this and come up with anything other than total quid pro quo smoking gun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Astonishing there are people who read this and come up with anything other than total quid pro quo smoking gun.

Denial
Willful ignorance
Mental illness
All of the above

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I really really hate Trump but this has too much of a bow on it. Bill Taylor seems like he was trying to set someone up with the comment. The other guy was smart to take it off text.

I need to read the rest of the texts but I am looking forward to Bill Taylor coming in front of Congress - he seems like he may have some stories to tell.

he took the conversation off text because he knew it was incriminating, as evidenced by the reference to the phone call in the following text. Note also, this took place the same day Bolton resigned.

That isn't a coincidence and adds further to the idea of criminality.

Regardless of Taylor's intentions, we need to focus on the fact that it's proof of the President's ill-intent.
Personally, I believe he couldn't believe what he was being asked to do, and sought clarification.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:holy crap

https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/a/4/a4a91fab-99cd-4eb9-9c6c-ec1c586494b9/621801458E982E9903839ABC7404A917.chairmen-letter-on-state-departmnent-texts-10-03-19.pdf

the text messages are attached.

Forgive me if this has already been posted.

Very interesting, thanks.

My question: did Volker hope to avoid jail by resigning and cooperating with the investigation?
All the participants in these texts are clearly implicated, even Bill Taylor who texted his misgivings and wrote that it was "crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."

These texts are the smoking gun.

And what disgusting liars those GOP Congressmen are to come out after the hearing and say that it's a nothingburger.

They are truly destroying our country.

As an attorney, Sondland's last text cracks me up because it reminds me of every communication I've seen where an attorney is clearly trying to get their client to stop putting problematic statements in writing that may be discoverable later.

[Anonymous]

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As an attorney, Sondland's last text cracks me up because it reminds me of every communication I've seen where an attorney is clearly trying to get their client to stop putting problematic statements in writing that may be discoverable later.

Exactly. After Taylor points out for the umpteenth time the obvious problem with what they are doing, this was a total CYA. It is astonishing that some people take it at face value, given the context.

Now, if that had been the very first text, and there was no discussion of crafting evidence after, then there would not be an issue. Of course, that isn't what we are dealing with.

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Anonymous wrote:holy crap

https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/a/4/a4a91fab-99cd-4eb9-9c6c-ec1c586494b9/621801458E982E9903839ABC7404A917.chairmen-letter-on-state-departmnent-texts-10-03-19.pdf

the text messages are attached.

Forgive me if this has already been posted.

Very interesting, thanks.

My question: did Volker hope to avoid jail by resigning and cooperating with the investigation?
All the participants in these texts are clearly implicated, even Bill Taylor who texted his misgivings and wrote that it was "crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."

These texts are the smoking gun.

And what disgusting liars those GOP Congressmen are to come out after the hearing and say that it's a nothingburger.

They are truly destroying our country.

This is a smoking gun against Trump?

This combined with the rest of the string does seem to be a smoking gun. And that string isn't the whole thing - they are planning to release more.

The texts on July 25 before and after the call are the smoking guns IMO. The ones into August and September are CYA. Taylor was pretty naive with some of the stuff he put into text.

7/25 (before call):
Volker: Good lunch - thanks. Heard from White House - assuming President Z convinced trump he will investigate/"get to the bottom of what happened" in 2016, we ill nail down date for visit to Washington. Good luck! See you tomorrow - kurt

7/25 (after call)
Yermak: Phone call went well. President Trump proposed to choose any convenient dates. ...

9/1:
Taylor: Are we going to say that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?
Gordon: Call me

This stuff is just nuts.

Taylor was not naive. He was appalled and wanted his objections on the record. He knew that texting it that explicitly would rattle Sondland, who had no business being involved in Ukraine at all, but was included because he was the political appointee who spoke to Trump and Pompeo. Taylor came out of retirement to help Ukraine against Russia and was pissed that the military assistance was being held up for Trump's "deliverable" e.g., a public commitment from Zelensky for the "investigations". Taylor obviously objected in phone calls to Sondland, and put his position on the record in the texts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:holy crap

https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/a/4/a4a91fab-99cd-4eb9-9c6c-ec1c586494b9/621801458E982E9903839ABC7404A917.chairmen-letter-on-state-departmnent-texts-10-03-19.pdf

the text messages are attached.

Forgive me if this has already been posted.

Very interesting, thanks.

My question: did Volker hope to avoid jail by resigning and cooperating with the investigation?
All the participants in these texts are clearly implicated, even Bill Taylor who texted his misgivings and wrote that it was "crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."

These texts are the smoking gun.

And what disgusting liars those GOP Congressmen are to come out after the hearing and say that it's a nothingburger.

They are truly destroying our country.

This is a smoking gun against Trump?

This combined with the rest of the string does seem to be a smoking gun. And that string isn't the whole thing - they are planning to release more.

The texts on July 25 before and after the call are the smoking guns IMO. The ones into August and September are CYA. Taylor was pretty naive with some of the stuff he put into text.

7/25 (before call):
Volker: Good lunch - thanks. Heard from White House - assuming President Z convinced trump he will investigate/"get to the bottom of what happened" in 2016, we ill nail down date for visit to Washington. Good luck! See you tomorrow - kurt

7/25 (after call)
Yermak: Phone call went well. President Trump proposed to choose any convenient dates. ...

9/1:
Taylor: Are we going to say that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?
Gordon: Call me

This stuff is just nuts.

Taylor was not naive. He was appalled and wanted his objections on the record. He knew that texting it that explicitly would rattle Sondland, who had no business being involved in Ukraine at all, but was included because he was the political appointee who spoke to Trump and Pompeo. Taylor came out of retirement to help Ukraine against Russia and was pissed that the military assistance was being held up for Trump's "deliverable" e.g., a public commitment from Zelensky for the "investigations". Taylor obviously objected in phone calls to Sondland, and put his position on the record in the texts.

I love Taylor. When is he coming before Congress?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else appreciate the irony that it is State Department electronic communications exposing these crimes?

Crimes?

LOL. No "crimes" have been "exposed."

Asking a foreign government for aid in a domestic election is a crime.
Withholding federal funds to extort a country is a crime.
The cover-up is a crime.
Obstruction of justice is a crime.

There are 4 right there, and that is just the surface.

1. We have a treaty with Ukraine regarding Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters. Just because Biden happens to be a candidate, doesn't mean he is immune from investigation.
2. The transcript from yesterday will prove you wrong on this claim.
3. There is no cover up - this administration has released more documents regarding this "scandal" than the Dems expected.
4. There is no obstruction.

How long are you going to defend what is clearly two deranged old senile men (Trump and Guiliani) ruining our country? They clearly have large wholes in their brains. You really want to pretend this is normal? That's the kind of world you want to live in?

Sadly it’s not two senile old men. There is a huge machinery behind this: Mercer $, Pompeo with his hunger for the rapture, Barr w/ belief in unbridled executive power, Mitch w/ his grim reaper hard on... and these are only the US players.

+1
I do not know how we’re going to rout out the vast right wing corruption. Trump is just the disgusting symptom. Like diarrhea from cholera.

[Anonymous]

This thread reminds me of some NetFlix show.

[Anonymous]

I remember when Obama asked Netanyahu to find dirt on Romney, or else US was going to withhold funds from Israel. It was astonishing that Hillary Clinton and her staff executed the shakedown, that Joe Biden made a personal ask of Bibi and Eric Holders DOJ covered it up.

I am glad they are all in jail now.

[Anonymous]

Lol "call me." yeah, dude, that does not help you. it's the equivalent of "dude stop talking we don't want evidence of our crime." The state department lifers were obviously shocked at what they were being made to do to Ukraine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:holy crap

https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/a/4/a4a91fab-99cd-4eb9-9c6c-ec1c586494b9/621801458E982E9903839ABC7404A917.chairmen-letter-on-state-departmnent-texts-10-03-19.pdf

the text messages are attached.

Forgive me if this has already been posted.

Very interesting, thanks.

My question: did Volker hope to avoid jail by resigning and cooperating with the investigation?
All the participants in these texts are clearly implicated, even Bill Taylor who texted his misgivings and wrote that it was "crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."

These texts are the smoking gun.

And what disgusting liars those GOP Congressmen are to come out after the hearing and say that it's a nothingburger.

They are truly destroying our country.

This is a smoking gun against Trump?

This combined with the rest of the string does seem to be a smoking gun. And that string isn't the whole thing - they are planning to release more.

The texts on July 25 before and after the call are the smoking guns IMO. The ones into August and September are CYA. Taylor was pretty naive with some of the stuff he put into text.

7/25 (before call):
Volker: Good lunch - thanks. Heard from White House - assuming President Z convinced trump he will investigate/"get to the bottom of what happened" in 2016, we ill nail down date for visit to Washington. Good luck! See you tomorrow - kurt

7/25 (after call)
Yermak: Phone call went well. President Trump proposed to choose any convenient dates. ...

9/1:
Taylor: Are we going to say that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?
Gordon: Call me

This stuff is just nuts.

Taylor was not naive. He was appalled and wanted his objections on the record. He knew that texting it that explicitly would rattle Sondland, who had no business being involved in Ukraine at all, but was included because he was the political appointee who spoke to Trump and Pompeo. Taylor came out of retirement to help Ukraine against Russia and was pissed that the military assistance was being held up for Trump's "deliverable" e.g., a public commitment from Zelensky for the "investigations". Taylor obviously objected in phone calls to Sondland, and put his position on the record in the texts.

I love Taylor. When is he coming before Congress?

+2
I love that he’s pretending to play stupid in that text to get it on record.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember when Obama asked Netanyahu to find dirt on Romney, or else US was going to withhold funds from Israel. It was astonishing that Hillary Clinton and her staff executed the shakedown, that Joe Biden made a personal ask of Bibi and Eric Holders DOJ covered it up.

I am glad they are all in jail now.

And to add, it was even worse when Obama told Iran it could have the eastern part of Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember when Obama asked Netanyahu to find dirt on Romney, or else US was going to withhold funds from Israel. It was astonishing that Hillary Clinton and her staff executed the shakedown, that Joe Biden made a personal ask of Bibi and Eric Holders DOJ covered it up.

I am glad they are all in jail now.

And to add, it was even worse when Obama told Iran it could have the eastern part of Israel.

I know right?!?! What duplicitous traitors!!!!