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Anonymous wrote:To the dad that said his kid has a chance after seeing Rose juggle? Nope. It's a false indicator. Rose just proves that juggling is BS.

How so?

Again, her juggling demonstrated commitment to working towards improving a skill or a goal and it demonstrated comfort with the ball.

It may not have created comfort with the ball but it sure as hell demonstrated comfort with the ball. How hard is this to understand?

How so? She was terrible at juggling per the juggling parents. Less than one per second. Above the knee. Terrible. That's the point. Yet she is world class.

What’s wrong with juggling above your knee?

God, some people on this forum are not right in the head.

Nothing at all but it does mean the juggles are slower is all. It is all about control either way. But a person was arguing that a kid couldn't juggle one or two per second and if you are juggling above your knee that is certainly true.

Stop being so defensive.

Umm, that wasn't defensive, but you certainly proved my not right in the head point with that comment.

To counter your inane point, it's harder to control a ball from a higher height. I also realize that this discussion is not fact based, so I'll disengage now.

I only talked about the speed, ie, the number of juggles that could be accomplished within a certain time frame depending on whether you are juggling high vs low.

Yes, you are being defensive if you thought I passed judgement regarding either.

You are a bore.

And you are the same fool who makes this board unbearable. I recognized your style instantly

I'll take this as an admission that you actually re-read my PP and now understand that I wasn't making a judgement on any particular style of juggling and that you are being overly defensive.

Point proven! You frequent quite a few threads here don’t you? And wreck them all.

And yet you are the one who mis-read a post, replied defensively and incorrectly.

Here is a video to prove that juggling high can be both difficult AND impossible to replicate once per second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7B4DEHlZAA

Actually everything you stated there is incorrect, but you are in perfect form, for you.

Which is incorrect?

Juggling over 18 meters is easy or that it can be done once per second?

Do you even know the point you are trying to make anymore or are you just trying to be angry?

You have made my point yourself. High juggling is difficult, juggling at or a little above the knee can be done at good pace, and both are just fine to practice. I think you like provoking and arguing with people for argument’s sake and I don’t see that personality trait going away anytime soon.

What you don't understand is I NEVER SAID IT WAS EASY!!!

I NEVER MADE A JUDGMENT EITHER WAY.

READ and stop reacting!!

You take things too personally. I never mentioned any individual in my OP and it sounds like we agree more than disagree.

take a breath!

Nothing personal, it is just frustrating posting when someone like you puts words in my mouth that were never stated. Read things more carefully next time before you reply attempting to contradict something that was never said.

Final comment on this....this is what the OP was responding to:

How so? She was terrible at juggling per the juggling parents. Less than one per second. Above the knee. Terrible. That's the point. Yet she is world class.


This was the response to that statement:

What’s wrong with juggling above your knee?


This was directed at the "juggling parents," not necessarily the person making the statement above, but you (that person, apparently) took offense, if I read your responses correctly. Maybe reading things more carefully should go as good advice all-around.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not want to start an argument but I have to ask this question.

On the soccer field, the object is it control the ball in the air and ground it as soon as possible in the desire direction or to kick/pass the airborne ball towards goal or to a teammate. Hence, why the need to continuously juggle 1000 times without it hitting the ground instead of trying to control it and ground it in 1-3 juggles?

Here's my humble opinion on it. It's the repetition that ultimately matters the most. That said, if the 1000 juggles are all roughly 6 inches off the same foot, that doesn't necessarily translate to the field. What does translate is varied heights and surfaces. It's not just the number, but the types of touches and the quality of each touch. Using varied heights and surfaces and getting into the hundreds, then doing it regularly really helps for that odd ball in a game situation in bringing the ball right where you need it for that first touch.

It is all important. The ability to vary as well as the ability to consistently do the repetitive as well. They only gauge is can you do what you want with the ball upon command? That is it. And that is all that matters in a game as well.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not want to start an argument but I have to ask this question.

On the soccer field, the object is it control the ball in the air and ground it as soon as possible in the desire direction or to kick/pass the airborne ball towards goal or to a teammate. Hence, why the need to continuously juggle 1000 times without it hitting the ground instead of trying to control it and ground it in 1-3 juggles?

Here's my humble opinion on it. It's the repetition that ultimately matters the most. That said, if the 1000 juggles are all roughly 6 inches off the same foot, that doesn't necessarily translate to the field. What does translate is varied heights and surfaces. It's not just the number, but the types of touches and the quality of each touch. Using varied heights and surfaces and getting into the hundreds, then doing it regularly really helps for that odd ball in a game situation in bringing the ball right where you need it for that first touch.

I agree. The 6” off your foot is done when you are trying to hit that goal of a 1000 the coach gave you. After that the coach gives you other thing to work on- like walking with ball, around the world, etc. They keep making it harder because once you can juggle, they have a boat load of other things to work on that start with juggling.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not want to start an argument but I have to ask this question.

On the soccer field, the object is it control the ball in the air and ground it as soon as possible in the desire direction or to kick/pass the airborne ball towards goal or to a teammate. Hence, why the need to continuously juggle 1000 times without it hitting the ground instead of trying to control it and ground it in 1-3 juggles?

Here's my humble opinion on it. It's the repetition that ultimately matters the most. That said, if the 1000 juggles are all roughly 6 inches off the same foot, that doesn't necessarily translate to the field. What does translate is varied heights and surfaces. It's not just the number, but the types of touches and the quality of each touch. Using varied heights and surfaces and getting into the hundreds, then doing it regularly really helps for that odd ball in a game situation in bringing the ball right where you need it for that first touch.

I agree. The 6” off your foot is done when you are trying to hit that goal of a 1000 the coach gave you. After that the coach gives you other thing to work on- like walking with ball, around the world, etc. They keep making it harder because once you can juggle, they have a boat load of other things to work on that start with juggling.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not want to start an argument but I have to ask this question.

On the soccer field, the object is it control the ball in the air and ground it as soon as possible in the desire direction or to kick/pass the airborne ball towards goal or to a teammate. Hence, why the need to continuously juggle 1000 times without it hitting the ground instead of trying to control it and ground it in 1-3 juggles?

Here's my humble opinion on it. It's the repetition that ultimately matters the most. That said, if the 1000 juggles are all roughly 6 inches off the same foot, that doesn't necessarily translate to the field. What does translate is varied heights and surfaces. It's not just the number, but the types of touches and the quality of each touch. Using varied heights and surfaces and getting into the hundreds, then doing it regularly really helps for that odd ball in a game situation in bringing the ball right where you need it for that first touch.

I agree. The 6” off your foot is done when you are trying to hit that goal of a 1000 the coach gave you. After that the coach gives you other thing to work on- like walking with ball, around the world, etc. They keep making it harder because once you can juggle, they have a boat load of other things to work on that start with juggling.

Confusing post

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Anonymous wrote:I do not want to start an argument but I have to ask this question.

On the soccer field, the object is it control the ball in the air and ground it as soon as possible in the desire direction or to kick/pass the airborne ball towards goal or to a teammate. Hence, why the need to continuously juggle 1000 times without it hitting the ground instead of trying to control it and ground it in 1-3 juggles?

Here's my humble opinion on it. It's the repetition that ultimately matters the most. That said, if the 1000 juggles are all roughly 6 inches off the same foot, that doesn't necessarily translate to the field. What does translate is varied heights and surfaces. It's not just the number, but the types of touches and the quality of each touch. Using varied heights and surfaces and getting into the hundreds, then doing it regularly really helps for that odd ball in a game situation in bringing the ball right where you need it for that first touch.

I agree. The 6” off your foot is done when you are trying to hit that goal of a 1000 the coach gave you. After that the coach gives you other thing to work on- like walking with ball, around the world, etc. They keep making it harder because once you can juggle, they have a boat load of other things to work on that start with juggling.

Confusing post

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That’s bizarre, his post made perfect sense to me. What part is confusing?

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Anonymous wrote:To the dad that said his kid has a chance after seeing Rose juggle? Nope. It's a false indicator. Rose just proves that juggling is BS.

How so?

Again, her juggling demonstrated commitment to working towards improving a skill or a goal and it demonstrated comfort with the ball.

It may not have created comfort with the ball but it sure as hell demonstrated comfort with the ball. How hard is this to understand?

How so? She was terrible at juggling per the juggling parents. Less than one per second. Above the knee. Terrible. That's the point. Yet she is world class.

What’s wrong with juggling above your knee?

God, some people on this forum are not right in the head.

Nothing at all but it does mean the juggles are slower is all. It is all about control either way. But a person was arguing that a kid couldn't juggle one or two per second and if you are juggling above your knee that is certainly true.

Stop being so defensive.

Umm, that wasn't defensive, but you certainly proved my not right in the head point with that comment.

To counter your inane point, it's harder to control a ball from a higher height. I also realize that this discussion is not fact based, so I'll disengage now.

I only talked about the speed, ie, the number of juggles that could be accomplished within a certain time frame depending on whether you are juggling high vs low.

Yes, you are being defensive if you thought I passed judgement regarding either.

You are a bore.

And you are the same fool who makes this board unbearable. I recognized your style instantly

I'll take this as an admission that you actually re-read my PP and now understand that I wasn't making a judgement on any particular style of juggling and that you are being overly defensive.

Point proven! You frequent quite a few threads here don’t you? And wreck them all.

And yet you are the one who mis-read a post, replied defensively and incorrectly.

Here is a video to prove that juggling high can be both difficult AND impossible to replicate once per second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7B4DEHlZAA

Actually everything you stated there is incorrect, but you are in perfect form, for you.

Which is incorrect?

Juggling over 18 meters is easy or that it can be done once per second?

Do you even know the point you are trying to make anymore or are you just trying to be angry?

You have made my point yourself. High juggling is difficult, juggling at or a little above the knee can be done at good pace, and both are just fine to practice. I think you like provoking and arguing with people for argument’s sake and I don’t see that personality trait going away anytime soon.

What you don't understand is I NEVER SAID IT WAS EASY!!!

I NEVER MADE A JUDGMENT EITHER WAY.

READ and stop reacting!!

You take things too personally. I never mentioned any individual in my OP and it sounds like we agree more than disagree.

take a breath!

Nothing personal, it is just frustrating posting when someone like you puts words in my mouth that were never stated. Read things more carefully next time before you reply attempting to contradict something that was never said.

Final comment on this....this is what the OP was responding to:

How so? She was terrible at juggling per the juggling parents. Less than one per second. Above the knee. Terrible. That's the point. Yet she is world class.


This was the response to that statement:

What’s wrong with juggling above your knee?


This was directed at the "juggling parents," not necessarily the person making the statement above, but you (that person, apparently) took offense, if I read your responses correctly. Maybe reading things more carefully should go as good advice all-around.

I do not think she was a bad juggler for her age. She looked like she was just starting out but still able to juggle with different parts of the foot. Which is surprising because she did not have that great of a control. You can tell she is going to pick it up quickly.

[Anonymous]

VSA beats Arlington Red. May want to try playing a little more soccer and futsal in winter and think a little less about what outsiders are coming for all your DA spots. And maybe give some other clubs and kids their due.

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Anonymous wrote:To the dad that said his kid has a chance after seeing Rose juggle? Nope. It's a false indicator. Rose just proves that juggling is BS.

How so?

Again, her juggling demonstrated commitment to working towards improving a skill or a goal and it demonstrated comfort with the ball.

It may not have created comfort with the ball but it sure as hell demonstrated comfort with the ball. How hard is this to understand?

How so? She was terrible at juggling per the juggling parents. Less than one per second. Above the knee. Terrible. That's the point. Yet she is world class.

What’s wrong with juggling above your knee?

God, some people on this forum are not right in the head.

Nothing at all but it does mean the juggles are slower is all. It is all about control either way. But a person was arguing that a kid couldn't juggle one or two per second and if you are juggling above your knee that is certainly true.

Stop being so defensive.

Umm, that wasn't defensive, but you certainly proved my not right in the head point with that comment.

To counter your inane point, it's harder to control a ball from a higher height. I also realize that this discussion is not fact based, so I'll disengage now.

I only talked about the speed, ie, the number of juggles that could be accomplished within a certain time frame depending on whether you are juggling high vs low.

Yes, you are being defensive if you thought I passed judgement regarding either.

You are a bore.

And you are the same fool who makes this board unbearable. I recognized your style instantly

I'll take this as an admission that you actually re-read my PP and now understand that I wasn't making a judgement on any particular style of juggling and that you are being overly defensive.

Point proven! You frequent quite a few threads here don’t you? And wreck them all.

And yet you are the one who mis-read a post, replied defensively and incorrectly.

Here is a video to prove that juggling high can be both difficult AND impossible to replicate once per second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7B4DEHlZAA

Actually everything you stated there is incorrect, but you are in perfect form, for you.

Which is incorrect?

Juggling over 18 meters is easy or that it can be done once per second?

Do you even know the point you are trying to make anymore or are you just trying to be angry?

You have made my point yourself. High juggling is difficult, juggling at or a little above the knee can be done at good pace, and both are just fine to practice. I think you like provoking and arguing with people for argument’s sake and I don’t see that personality trait going away anytime soon.

What you don't understand is I NEVER SAID IT WAS EASY!!!

I NEVER MADE A JUDGMENT EITHER WAY.

READ and stop reacting!!

You take things too personally. I never mentioned any individual in my OP and it sounds like we agree more than disagree.

take a breath!

Nothing personal, it is just frustrating posting when someone like you puts words in my mouth that were never stated. Read things more carefully next time before you reply attempting to contradict something that was never said.

Final comment on this....this is what the OP was responding to:

How so? She was terrible at juggling per the juggling parents. Less than one per second. Above the knee. Terrible. That's the point. Yet she is world class.


This was the response to that statement:

What’s wrong with juggling above your knee?


This was directed at the "juggling parents," not necessarily the person making the statement above, but you (that person, apparently) took offense, if I read your responses correctly. Maybe reading things more carefully should go as good advice all-around.

I do not think she was a bad juggler for her age. She looked like she was just starting out but still able to juggle with different parts of the foot. Which is surprising because she did not have that great of a control. You can tell she is going to pick it up quickly.

You should be a US Soccer scout.

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Anonymous wrote:To the dad that said his kid has a chance after seeing Rose juggle? Nope. It's a false indicator. Rose just proves that juggling is BS.

How so?

Again, her juggling demonstrated commitment to working towards improving a skill or a goal and it demonstrated comfort with the ball.

It may not have created comfort with the ball but it sure as hell demonstrated comfort with the ball. How hard is this to understand?

How so? She was terrible at juggling per the juggling parents. Less than one per second. Above the knee. Terrible. That's the point. Yet she is world class.

What’s wrong with juggling above your knee?

God, some people on this forum are not right in the head.

Nothing at all but it does mean the juggles are slower is all. It is all about control either way. But a person was arguing that a kid couldn't juggle one or two per second and if you are juggling above your knee that is certainly true.

Stop being so defensive.

Umm, that wasn't defensive, but you certainly proved my not right in the head point with that comment.

To counter your inane point, it's harder to control a ball from a higher height. I also realize that this discussion is not fact based, so I'll disengage now.

I only talked about the speed, ie, the number of juggles that could be accomplished within a certain time frame depending on whether you are juggling high vs low.

Yes, you are being defensive if you thought I passed judgement regarding either.

You are a bore.

And you are the same fool who makes this board unbearable. I recognized your style instantly

I'll take this as an admission that you actually re-read my PP and now understand that I wasn't making a judgement on any particular style of juggling and that you are being overly defensive.

Point proven! You frequent quite a few threads here don’t you? And wreck them all.

And yet you are the one who mis-read a post, replied defensively and incorrectly.

Here is a video to prove that juggling high can be both difficult AND impossible to replicate once per second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7B4DEHlZAA

Actually everything you stated there is incorrect, but you are in perfect form, for you.

Which is incorrect?

Juggling over 18 meters is easy or that it can be done once per second?

Do you even know the point you are trying to make anymore or are you just trying to be angry?

You have made my point yourself. High juggling is difficult, juggling at or a little above the knee can be done at good pace, and both are just fine to practice. I think you like provoking and arguing with people for argument’s sake and I don’t see that personality trait going away anytime soon.

What you don't understand is I NEVER SAID IT WAS EASY!!!

I NEVER MADE A JUDGMENT EITHER WAY.

READ and stop reacting!!

You take things too personally. I never mentioned any individual in my OP and it sounds like we agree more than disagree.

take a breath!

Nothing personal, it is just frustrating posting when someone like you puts words in my mouth that were never stated. Read things more carefully next time before you reply attempting to contradict something that was never said.

Final comment on this....this is what the OP was responding to:

How so? She was terrible at juggling per the juggling parents. Less than one per second. Above the knee. Terrible. That's the point. Yet she is world class.


This was the response to that statement:

What’s wrong with juggling above your knee?


This was directed at the "juggling parents," not necessarily the person making the statement above, but you (that person, apparently) took offense, if I read your responses correctly. Maybe reading things more carefully should go as good advice all-around.

I do not think she was a bad juggler for her age. She looked like she was just starting out but still able to juggle with different parts of the foot. Which is surprising because she did not have that great of a control. You can tell she is going to pick it up quickly.

Yer nuts. The just above the foot style is not the kind of juggling that builds or demonstrates touch. She was doing it the best way, quite a bit harder than bouncing it on your foot a million times over.

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Uh oh. Someone’s been having his DD do it the wrong way. I guess she is not better than Rose after all...

but we knew that already.

[Anonymous]

Everyone is missing the point about juggling. If a prospective coach sees a player who can juggle well or for long periods, it is merely one measure to show that the player has spent a lot of personal time with the ball (outside of structured practice time) to demonstrate a strong interest in the game. There are a lot of players who can juggle a long time, but they lack speed, technical skills, soccer IQ, etc. It is simply another evaluation metric for a coach when all else appears to be about equal.

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LOL. All else appears to be equal? Nobody is getting picked because they juggle a little better or longer than the next player. Juggling is not an evaluation metric. That statement shows that you are out of touch. It’s a warm up or solo exercise to get touches in. Just stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL. All else appears to be equal? Nobody is getting picked because they juggle a little better or longer than the next player. Juggling is not an evaluation metric. That statement shows that you are out of touch. It’s a warm up or solo exercise to get touches in. Just stop.

All I know is kids who can’t juggle well certainly don’t try and juggle at a tryout in front of a new coach. Those who can are certainly comfortable doing so in front of a new coach.

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Anonymous wrote:To the dad that said his kid has a chance after seeing Rose juggle? Nope. It's a false indicator. Rose just proves that juggling is BS.

How so?

Again, her juggling demonstrated commitment to working towards improving a skill or a goal and it demonstrated comfort with the ball.

It may not have created comfort with the ball but it sure as hell demonstrated comfort with the ball. How hard is this to understand?

How so? She was terrible at juggling per the juggling parents. Less than one per second. Above the knee. Terrible. That's the point. Yet she is world class.

What’s wrong with juggling above your knee?

God, some people on this forum are not right in the head.

Nothing at all but it does mean the juggles are slower is all. It is all about control either way. But a person was arguing that a kid couldn't juggle one or two per second and if you are juggling above your knee that is certainly true.

Stop being so defensive.

Umm, that wasn't defensive, but you certainly proved my not right in the head point with that comment.

To counter your inane point, it's harder to control a ball from a higher height. I also realize that this discussion is not fact based, so I'll disengage now.

I only talked about the speed, ie, the number of juggles that could be accomplished within a certain time frame depending on whether you are juggling high vs low.

Yes, you are being defensive if you thought I passed judgement regarding either.

You are a bore.

And you are the same fool who makes this board unbearable. I recognized your style instantly

I'll take this as an admission that you actually re-read my PP and now understand that I wasn't making a judgement on any particular style of juggling and that you are being overly defensive.

Point proven! You frequent quite a few threads here don’t you? And wreck them all.

And yet you are the one who mis-read a post, replied defensively and incorrectly.

Here is a video to prove that juggling high can be both difficult AND impossible to replicate once per second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7B4DEHlZAA

Actually everything you stated there is incorrect, but you are in perfect form, for you.

Which is incorrect?

Juggling over 18 meters is easy or that it can be done once per second?

Do you even know the point you are trying to make anymore or are you just trying to be angry?

You have made my point yourself. High juggling is difficult, juggling at or a little above the knee can be done at good pace, and both are just fine to practice. I think you like provoking and arguing with people for argument’s sake and I don’t see that personality trait going away anytime soon.

What you don't understand is I NEVER SAID IT WAS EASY!!!

I NEVER MADE A JUDGMENT EITHER WAY.

READ and stop reacting!!

You take things too personally. I never mentioned any individual in my OP and it sounds like we agree more than disagree.

take a breath!

Nothing personal, it is just frustrating posting when someone like you puts words in my mouth that were never stated. Read things more carefully next time before you reply attempting to contradict something that was never said.

Final comment on this....this is what the OP was responding to:

How so? She was terrible at juggling per the juggling parents. Less than one per second. Above the knee. Terrible. That's the point. Yet she is world class.


This was the response to that statement:

What’s wrong with juggling above your knee?


This was directed at the "juggling parents," not necessarily the person making the statement above, but you (that person, apparently) took offense, if I read your responses correctly. Maybe reading things more carefully should go as good advice all-around.

I do not think she was a bad juggler for her age. She looked like she was just starting out but still able to juggle with different parts of the foot. Which is surprising because she did not have that great of a control. You can tell she is going to pick it up quickly.

Yer nuts. The just above the foot style is not the kind of juggling that builds or demonstrates touch. She was doing it the best way, quite a bit harder than bouncing it on your foot a million times over.

You really do not know anything about soccer do you? Feel free to continue to show your ignorance.