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2) Meghan was never cut out to be an obedient princess. She was/is a nice but ambitious and hard working woman with a vision of what she wants out of life, a clear feeling about what she believes is wrong and right, and an unwillingness to compromise herself entirely for anything or anyone. And in the end, this clashed with the institution and doomed her. She was never going to not fight back. And if you admire that quality overall you support her, and if you think she should have been thanking the gods for landing her a prince and keeping her mouth shut as she enjoyed the trappings of the royal life than you hate her.

Meghan thought that the whole institution of the BRF should be bent to suit her because she's so special. And when it didn't, she cried. She was fighting back against what she perceived as slights, but is in fact just reality: you, Meghan, are NOT as important as Kate, because hierarchy. And this hierarchy will not change based on how fabulous or glamorous or popular you are. That's why they get priceless art and you get IKEA. Both of you live in places you do not own and never will.

That’s where you are wrong. Meghan is no less important than Kate or anyone else. I agree with the poster before you, Meghan was never going to take a backseat to anyone. And she shouldn’t. It’s unAmerican. And it should be unBritish as well. Kate, William, Harry, Charles did nothing important in their life or helped others. They were just born into an institution that should have been dissolved a long time ago. She should bow to no man or woman. WTF. Do you teach your children that they are less important than others simply because of their birth.

Then. Why. Marry. Into. It?!?

She could have made it a condition of marriage that Harry move to the U.S. and join her if they loved each other so much.

Nothing adds up. And you do not get to tell the British what is UnBritish. They can decide for themselves. How presumptuous.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate being uptight sounds about right. So was QE2 — I think it’s the best way to survive that grinder. Diana was not cold and uptight enough — it ate her alive. Fergie was famously warm and bubbly and she was a basic disaster.
I think a bit part of Megan’s problem is that she thought she could portray this warm open persona and then close that door for privacy. It doesn’t work that way there. It reminds me of the queens advice to someone — never hold hands in public because the first time you aren’t holding hands, they will make it headline news. They will use whatever you give them so give them nothing to work with except bland propriety.

But she and Harry have been calculating and taking notes and seeking to take down and destroy these people over petty grievances. That doesn't sound like a genuine open warm person.

Making videos, taking notes etc sounds like this union was a pre planned business project.

You do know that’s what people are doing these days. They are journaling their relationships. Some to eventually show at the wedding reception. Others to have a history to share with potential children. While others just put everything on Facebook and Instagram. It’s not unusual in this day snd age. I would say it’s been a thing for the last ten-years. Give or take a few.

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Anonymous wrote:The most vicious revelation is him writing about his father taking his childhood teddy bear everywhere sue to scars from childhood bullying. This is such a private and painful thing to reveal about someone else.

What a tragic end for Harry, I can’t see anyone wanting to keep his company.

It's appalling, I simply can't get over how vicious and petty the details are. Daily Mail has excerpts of the Kate vs. Meghan anecdotes, and they are mind-glowingly stupid. Anger about hugs, lip gloss, children's tights and requests not to be too informal prematurely? I mean wtf.

Amazing how this is mostly coming from the Sussexes, and Meghan really does not come across well at all. Arrogant, abrasive, presumptuous, and definitely jealous.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11606199/Inside-Meghan-Kates-long-standing-feud-fallings-drove-apart.html

It is mostly incredibly stupid and small, but do we think it's true Meghan paid for the Sussex's Ikea furniture vs. the Wales's lap-of-luxury decor? Very strange!

Meghan had a $1M wardrobe during her 18 months of service so I doubt it. They spent $4M renovating Frogmore and included a personal yoga room and floating floor and she had the designer of SOHO house do the interior decor.

That was not a part of the renovation, and it was 3.2 million, and they repaid it. And maybe that all seems nitpicky but it shows how people change and frame these stories to make her look comically awful.

But the comical awfulness is just from the semantics of the exact cost or the silly reno features. Are they not embarrassed to now be publicly complaining about how small their newlywed home was or how nice William and Catherine's furniture was when they ended up removating their dream home and now live in a mansion.

They were married for 2 minutes and were already comparing and complaining. What an awful way to start a marriage and join a family.

It's also quite bizarre for what amounts to a new employee feeling entitled to anything, much less parity with well-established senior royals.

Y’all need to make up your mind. Is she an employee or is she supposed to be family?

Well...she was both. Because she chose to be a working royal and "hit the ground running", when they gave her the option not to.

And regardless, it's a distinction without a difference here, because you also don't go to your new in-laws and immediately start demanding they change family customs and traditions for you.

It's a no...no matter how you try to slice and dice it.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate being uptight sounds about right. So was QE2 — I think it’s the best way to survive that grinder. Diana was not cold and uptight enough — it ate her alive. Fergie was famously warm and bubbly and she was a basic disaster.
I think a bit part of Megan’s problem is that she thought she could portray this warm open persona and then close that door for privacy. It doesn’t work that way there. It reminds me of the queens advice to someone — never hold hands in public because the first time you aren’t holding hands, they will make it headline news. They will use whatever you give them so give them nothing to work with except bland propriety.

But she and Harry have been calculating and taking notes and seeking to take down and destroy these people over petty grievances. That doesn't sound like a genuine open warm person.

Making videos, taking notes etc sounds like this union was a pre planned business project.

You do know that’s what people are doing these days. They are journaling their relationships. Some to eventually show at the wedding reception. Others to have a history to share with potential children. While others just put everything on Facebook and Instagram. It’s not unusual in this day snd age. I would say it’s been a thing for the last ten-years. Give or take a few.

Most people (especially that age demo) are not doing this though...only the personality type that is also drawn oversharing on social media. Read up on the traits of those personality types...

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Anonymous wrote:The most vicious revelation is him writing about his father taking his childhood teddy bear everywhere sue to scars from childhood bullying. This is such a private and painful thing to reveal about someone else.

What a tragic end for Harry, I can’t see anyone wanting to keep his company.

It's appalling, I simply can't get over how vicious and petty the details are. Daily Mail has excerpts of the Kate vs. Meghan anecdotes, and they are mind-glowingly stupid. Anger about hugs, lip gloss, children's tights and requests not to be too informal prematurely? I mean wtf.

Amazing how this is mostly coming from the Sussexes, and Meghan really does not come across well at all. Arrogant, abrasive, presumptuous, and definitely jealous.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11606199/Inside-Meghan-Kates-long-standing-feud-fallings-drove-apart.html

It is mostly incredibly stupid and small, but do we think it's true Meghan paid for the Sussex's Ikea furniture vs. the Wales's lap-of-luxury decor? Very strange!

Meghan had a $1M wardrobe during her 18 months of service so I doubt it. They spent $4M renovating Frogmore and included a personal yoga room and floating floor and she had the designer of SOHO house do the interior decor.

That was not a part of the renovation, and it was 3.2 million, and they repaid it. And maybe that all seems nitpicky but it shows how people change and frame these stories to make her look comically awful.

But the comical awfulness is just from the semantics of the exact cost or the silly reno features. Are they not embarrassed to now be publicly complaining about how small their newlywed home was or how nice William and Catherine's furniture was when they ended up removating their dream home and now live in a mansion.

They were married for 2 minutes and were already comparing and complaining. What an awful way to start a marriage and join a family.

It's also quite bizarre for what amounts to a new employee feeling entitled to anything, much less parity with well-established senior royals.

It isn't Meghan but HARRY who felt entitled to parity, and he should! Andrew gets whatever he wants!

I doubt comparatively Andrew gets a fraction of what his brother gets, and what he does have was "earned" over time precisely because he stayed in the fold and fulfilled his duties, such as they were.

Harry's main gripe seems fundamentally to be that Charles cut him off. So once again there are inconsistencies here.

I feel like only people from functional families can read this that way. CLEARLY money is used as a coercive weapon in the family. ALL of them use it against one another. Which is why the financial independence that M/H have sought and acquired is so INCREDIBLY threatening.

Exactly. Money was used as a weapon to wield obedience and compliance. What’s love got to do with anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, his comments about his experience in the military have definitely put a nail in his faux "Invictus Games" charity. I can't imagine any military members in any country's military who would want to participate again, after his undignified brag about his kills.

Was he bragging or just stating a fact about his service. The part about having to disassociate himself from his kills does not come across as bragging, but PTSD. He put it in his memoirs which is a part of his life.

I think in context from the book it is not as bad, but it was still very unwise to put a specific number in there.

He could have made the point without the kill count, no?

You have zero understanding of terrorism nor of military service. Come back to this thread in a month, a year, or even 5 years from now after a terrorist attack spawned by this book. Then tell the victims and their families that you don't think it's so bad.

No, trust me, I get it. It's bad. All I am saying is that the context in the book softens that language vis a vis the headlines. Of course, he should have anticipated the headlines.

Taliban is already using it as propaganda, saying that it was not enemy combatants he killed but civilians.

Someone really dropped the ball with this fact and letting it get published. Yes, I’m sure there’s likely ptsd, but the broader impact of going public with a kill number should’ve never happened.

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Anonymous wrote:This is exactly it. The rumor mill about William is BS. He is faithful and may I say just an ordinary dude who met his lifelong partner in College. It took her some time to see if it was the right fit for HER though she loved him she was t sure if she was ready for the life it entailed. Sure enough they are an amazing fit and have an incredible marriage and partnership of 20 plus years versus poor stupid Harold who was stalked and catfished by a grizzled divorcee who lies about her age and has been married at least once, it is rumored twice. He was a ripe mark indeed.

Barf.

Why?? You already know you hate them. You can clearly see they are happy and raising beautiful well adjusted family oriented kids. What’s not to like?

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Anonymous wrote:It's almost like Harry wants to burnish his credentials as a bona fide idiot. Only that can explain the story of his first sexual encounter, and a helpful explanation of penile frostbite at William's wedding. Like, WHYYYY? The Queen would be mortified at that. Actually all of us are mortified to read this..

It”s his way of tarnishing the Monarchy, bringing it to the gutter level. If he can’t have it he will burn it down, and burn himself too in the process. He is consumed by envy.

Good. Burn it all down. It should have been gone a century ago, if not earlier.

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It blows my mind that there are so many people in here defending them for treating family members who happen to be lower in the hierarchy as less important people.

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Anonymous wrote:The most vicious revelation is him writing about his father taking his childhood teddy bear everywhere sue to scars from childhood bullying. This is such a private and painful thing to reveal about someone else.

What a tragic end for Harry, I can’t see anyone wanting to keep his company.

It's appalling, I simply can't get over how vicious and petty the details are. Daily Mail has excerpts of the Kate vs. Meghan anecdotes, and they are mind-glowingly stupid. Anger about hugs, lip gloss, children's tights and requests not to be too informal prematurely? I mean wtf.

Amazing how this is mostly coming from the Sussexes, and Meghan really does not come across well at all. Arrogant, abrasive, presumptuous, and definitely jealous.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11606199/Inside-Meghan-Kates-long-standing-feud-fallings-drove-apart.html

It is mostly incredibly stupid and small, but do we think it's true Meghan paid for the Sussex's Ikea furniture vs. the Wales's lap-of-luxury decor? Very strange!

Meghan had a $1M wardrobe during her 18 months of service so I doubt it. They spent $4M renovating Frogmore and included a personal yoga room and floating floor and she had the designer of SOHO house do the interior decor.

That was not a part of the renovation, and it was 3.2 million, and they repaid it. And maybe that all seems nitpicky but it shows how people change and frame these stories to make her look comically awful.

But the comical awfulness is just from the semantics of the exact cost or the silly reno features. Are they not embarrassed to now be publicly complaining about how small their newlywed home was or how nice William and Catherine's furniture was when they ended up removating their dream home and now live in a mansion.

They were married for 2 minutes and were already comparing and complaining. What an awful way to start a marriage and join a family.

It's also quite bizarre for what amounts to a new employee feeling entitled to anything, much less parity with well-established senior royals.

It isn't Meghan but HARRY who felt entitled to parity, and he should! Andrew gets whatever he wants!

I doubt comparatively Andrew gets a fraction of what his brother gets, and what he does have was "earned" over time precisely because he stayed in the fold and fulfilled his duties, such as they were.

Harry's main gripe seems fundamentally to be that Charles cut him off. So once again there are inconsistencies here.

I feel like only people from functional families can read this that way. CLEARLY money is used as a coercive weapon in the family. ALL of them use it against one another. Which is why the financial independence that M/H have sought and acquired is so INCREDIBLY threatening.

Exactly. Money was used as a weapon to wield obedience and compliance. What’s love got to do with anything.

Is it really that shocking that a monarchist family enterprise is about obedience and compliance? I mean...they literally bow and pledge fealty lol.

The real issue is that they wanted to have their cake and eat it too. They wanted the benefits of monarchy and proximity thereto, without any of the crappy stuff.

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2) Meghan was never cut out to be an obedient princess. She was/is a nice but ambitious and hard working woman with a vision of what she wants out of life, a clear feeling about what she believes is wrong and right, and an unwillingness to compromise herself entirely for anything or anyone. And in the end, this clashed with the institution and doomed her. She was never going to not fight back. And if you admire that quality overall you support her, and if you think she should have been thanking the gods for landing her a prince and keeping her mouth shut as she enjoyed the trappings of the royal life than you hate her.

Meghan thought that the whole institution of the BRF should be bent to suit her because she's so special. And when it didn't, she cried. She was fighting back against what she perceived as slights, but is in fact just reality: you, Meghan, are NOT as important as Kate, because hierarchy. And this hierarchy will not change based on how fabulous or glamorous or popular you are. That's why they get priceless art and you get IKEA. Both of you live in places you do not own and never will.

That’s where you are wrong. Meghan is no less important than Kate or anyone else. I agree with the poster before you, Meghan was never going to take a backseat to anyone. And she shouldn’t. It’s unAmerican. And it should be unBritish as well. Kate, William, Harry, Charles did nothing important in their life or helped others. They were just born into an institution that should have been dissolved a long time ago. She should bow to no man or woman. WTF. Do you teach your children that they are less important than others simply because of their birth.

x 1000

The above poster talking about family hierarchy needs a reality check. She sounds like a complete loser.

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Anonymous wrote:It's almost like Harry wants to burnish his credentials as a bona fide idiot. Only that can explain the story of his first sexual encounter, and a helpful explanation of penile frostbite at William's wedding. Like, WHYYYY? The Queen would be mortified at that. Actually all of us are mortified to read this..

It”s his way of tarnishing the Monarchy, bringing it to the gutter level. If he can’t have it he will burn it down, and burn himself too in the process. He is consumed by envy.

Good. Burn it all down. It should have been gone a century ago, if not earlier.

+1

It blows my mind that there are so many people in here defending them for treating family members who happen to be lower in the hierarchy as less important people.

Absolutely. Straight from the pages of and mouth of the Spare:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11607535/amp/Prince-Harry-confirms-Meghan-DID-announce-Duchess-pregnancy-Princess-Eugenies-wedding.html

Trash couple will trash at every occasion.

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Anonymous wrote:This is exactly it. The rumor mill about William is BS. He is faithful and may I say just an ordinary dude who met his lifelong partner in College. It took her some time to see if it was the right fit for HER though she loved him she was t sure if she was ready for the life it entailed. Sure enough they are an amazing fit and have an incredible marriage and partnership of 20 plus years versus poor stupid Harold who was stalked and catfished by a grizzled divorcee who lies about her age and has been married at least once, it is rumored twice. He was a ripe mark indeed.

Barf.

Why?? You already know you hate them. You can clearly see they are happy and raising beautiful well adjusted family oriented kids. What’s not to like?

You're blowing smoke. You don't know them and given how unhinged the dad is given his recent book he is proudly sharing with the world. They are none of the above, but you can choose to worship the dysfunction apparent to everyone else who are currently collectively cringing over the contents.

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In time I predict Harry will write a tell all about Meghan and how she controlled and manipulated him causing him to lose his family and everything important to him. What is with Tyler Perry, who they barely know, being their daughter’s Godfather? Do they have zero friends or family that they get along with?

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Anonymous wrote:It's almost like Harry wants to burnish his credentials as a bona fide idiot. Only that can explain the story of his first sexual encounter, and a helpful explanation of penile frostbite at William's wedding. Like, WHYYYY? The Queen would be mortified at that. Actually all of us are mortified to read this..

It”s his way of tarnishing the Monarchy, bringing it to the gutter level. If he can’t have it he will burn it down, and burn himself too in the process. He is consumed by envy.

Good. Burn it all down. It should have been gone a century ago, if not earlier.

+1

It blows my mind that there are so many people in here defending them for treating family members who happen to be lower in the hierarchy as less important people.

That's the funny thing. Harry and Meghan bought into the hierarchy! They were perfectly happy to be bowed to and to be treated better than others lower down on the hierarchy. They STILL want to be a part of the institution. Their only problem was when they were lower than someone in the institution.

Make it make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:In time I predict Harry will write a tell all about Meghan and how she controlled and manipulated him causing him to lose his family and everything important to him. What is with Tyler Perry, who they barely know, being their daughter’s Godfather? Do they have zero friends or family that they get along with?

Who would trust them at this point?