What exactly makes someone a “striver,” and why such disdain for them?

[Anonymous]

I hear a lot of hate in this forum about “strivers.” What is it exactly that makes someone a striver? The fact that you want to enjoy the fruits of your labor by buying a pretty house or nice car? Is it something more sinister like refusing to associate with people who don’t run with the right crowd?

And why do we hate this strivers? I hear the term associated a lot with new money. I don’t see anything wrong with wanting to better your financial situation. And for the record, a lot of people from old money families came into that money from slave holders, factory owners before the days of safe working conditions, large plantations, etc. Frankly, I’d rather be a self made striver than have had great grands that got rich off the blood and toil of suppressed classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hear a lot of hate in this forum about “strivers.” What is it exactly that makes someone a striver? The fact that you want to enjoy the fruits of your labor by buying a pretty house or nice car? Is it something more sinister like refusing to associate with people who don’t run with the right crowd?

And why do we hate this strivers? I hear the term associated a lot with new money. I don’t see anything wrong with wanting to better your financial situation. And for the record, a lot of people from old money families came into that money from slave holders, factory owners before the days of safe working conditions, large plantations, etc. Frankly, I’d rather be a self made striver than have had great grands that got rich off the blood and toil of suppressed classes.

it is a class issue. The sort who disdains "stirvers" are the next generation of the old money who realize they did not achieve nearly what the "stivers" achieved. Because they were born on third base and never had to work that hard, and will always wonder if they could have made it without such a boost. So the one thing they can horde over a striver is access to whatever social or professional society they control. But that's the inconsistency...somehow "striving" to get into the upper tier is gauche while "striving" to stay there (or keep others out) is not. It's like Tom Wambsgans - he wanted in, and was ridiculed for it, but the moronic Roy offspring were working as hard as they could to stay where they were born. Same, same.

That said, the other issue I see, as a striver, is a code of conduct that the old money has and that the strivers usually do not have. The unwritten rules, the double standards and weird behaviors that one gets from growing up with money. No one speaks directly or honestly, no one likes to answer tough questions, no one seems comfotable "proving" themselves, unless it is on a golf course, or paddle tennis court, or some other weird rich passtime. Strivers made their bones challenging the norms, so they're a square peg. And there is a casualness to it, no one seems to be worried or in a hurry because they're already a part of the club, and most strivers aren't built that way (because if they sat back and didn't worry about achieving, they'd still be grinding it out in some flyover city). And I think the old money hates that more than the concept of someone achieving more than they did.

[Anonymous]

Nothing wrong with strivers.

Strivers are intimidating to those born into money because they grew up with different social norms and that challenges what is accepted as "the right way" or the "proper way" to be according to the upper class.

Remember old money values stability above all else, and they don't love it when new people break into their circles wanting to challenge their ways.

[Anonymous]

Strivers are annoying because they want to be accepted and typically lack self confidence. It’s not about having money but being perceived to have money. Usually they envy old money and wish to put on airs that they are old money. Typical DCUM poster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear a lot of hate in this forum about “strivers.” What is it exactly that makes someone a striver? The fact that you want to enjoy the fruits of your labor by buying a pretty house or nice car? Is it something more sinister like refusing to associate with people who don’t run with the right crowd?

And why do we hate this strivers? I hear the term associated a lot with new money. I don’t see anything wrong with wanting to better your financial situation. And for the record, a lot of people from old money families came into that money from slave holders, factory owners before the days of safe working conditions, large plantations, etc. Frankly, I’d rather be a self made striver than have had great grands that got rich off the blood and toil of suppressed classes.

it is a class issue. The sort who disdains "stirvers" are the next generation of the old money who realize they did not achieve nearly what the "stivers" achieved. Because they were born on third base and never had to work that hard, and will always wonder if they could have made it without such a boost. So the one thing they can horde over a striver is access to whatever social or professional society they control. But that's the inconsistency...somehow "striving" to get into the upper tier is gauche while "striving" to stay there (or keep others out) is not. It's like Tom Wambsgans - he wanted in, and was ridiculed for it, but the moronic Roy offspring were working as hard as they could to stay where they were born. Same, same.

That said, the other issue I see, as a striver, is a code of conduct that the old money has and that the strivers usually do not have. The unwritten rules, the double standards and weird behaviors that one gets from growing up with money. No one speaks directly or honestly, no one likes to answer tough questions, no one seems comfotable "proving" themselves, unless it is on a golf course, or paddle tennis court, or some other weird rich passtime. Strivers made their bones challenging the norms, so they're a square peg. And there is a casualness to it, no one seems to be worried or in a hurry because they're already a part of the club, and most strivers aren't built that way (because if they sat back and didn't worry about achieving, they'd still be grinding it out in some flyover city). And I think the old money hates that more than the concept of someone achieving more than they did.

Definitely no chip on the shoulder there.

And it is 'pastime'.

[Anonymous]

"Strivers" is a made up thing for people for insecure people who want to feel superior to successful people.

[Anonymous]

I guess I associate it with “keeping up with the Joneses,” and general superficiality. Not sure if that’s what the term was meant to mean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Strivers are annoying because they want to be accepted and typically lack self confidence. It’s not about having money but being perceived to have money. Usually they envy old money and wish to put on airs that they are old money. Typical DCUM poster.

Found the lady who comes from a “long line of aristocrats”. Hapsburg chin, anyone?

[Anonymous]

I don't hate them. I call them Americans.

Some people are just stupid about these things.

[Anonymous]

"Strivers" are motivated by getting ahead of others. Anyone who thinks this way, that they actually can be "ahead" of other people, is a crap person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Strivers" are motivated by getting ahead of others. Anyone who thinks this way, that they actually can be "ahead" of other people, is a crap person.

Wrong. Strivers are looking to improve their own situation, irrespective of others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear a lot of hate in this forum about “strivers.” What is it exactly that makes someone a striver? The fact that you want to enjoy the fruits of your labor by buying a pretty house or nice car? Is it something more sinister like refusing to associate with people who don’t run with the right crowd?

And why do we hate this strivers? I hear the term associated a lot with new money. I don’t see anything wrong with wanting to better your financial situation. And for the record, a lot of people from old money families came into that money from slave holders, factory owners before the days of safe working conditions, large plantations, etc. Frankly, I’d rather be a self made striver than have had great grands that got rich off the blood and toil of suppressed classes.

it is a class issue. The sort who disdains "stirvers" are the next generation of the old money who realize they did not achieve nearly what the "stivers" achieved. Because they were born on third base and never had to work that hard, and will always wonder if they could have made it without such a boost. So the one thing they can horde over a striver is access to whatever social or professional society they control. But that's the inconsistency...somehow "striving" to get into the upper tier is gauche while "striving" to stay there (or keep others out) is not. It's like Tom Wambsgans - he wanted in, and was ridiculed for it, but the moronic Roy offspring were working as hard as they could to stay where they were born. Same, same.

That said, the other issue I see, as a striver, is a code of conduct that the old money has and that the strivers usually do not have. The unwritten rules, the double standards and weird behaviors that one gets from growing up with money. No one speaks directly or honestly, no one likes to answer tough questions, no one seems comfotable "proving" themselves, unless it is on a golf course, or paddle tennis court, or some other weird rich passtime. Strivers made their bones challenging the norms, so they're a square peg. And there is a casualness to it, no one seems to be worried or in a hurry because they're already a part of the club, and most strivers aren't built that way (because if they sat back and didn't worry about achieving, they'd still be grinding it out in some flyover city). And I think the old money hates that more than the concept of someone achieving more than they did.

Definitely no chip on the shoulder there.

And it is 'pastime'.

I absolutely have a chip. It's what keeps me sharp and a step ahead of the soft old money navel gazers who envy my ability to succeed in any situation. I want to be a part of their club simply to say I gained entry.

And thanks for spell-checking my work, Timmy. Here's a quarter for the effort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear a lot of hate in this forum about “strivers.” What is it exactly that makes someone a striver? The fact that you want to enjoy the fruits of your labor by buying a pretty house or nice car? Is it something more sinister like refusing to associate with people who don’t run with the right crowd?

And why do we hate this strivers? I hear the term associated a lot with new money. I don’t see anything wrong with wanting to better your financial situation. And for the record, a lot of people from old money families came into that money from slave holders, factory owners before the days of safe working conditions, large plantations, etc. Frankly, I’d rather be a self made striver than have had great grands that got rich off the blood and toil of suppressed classes.

it is a class issue. The sort who disdains "stirvers" are the next generation of the old money who realize they did not achieve nearly what the "stivers" achieved. Because they were born on third base and never had to work that hard, and will always wonder if they could have made it without such a boost. So the one thing they can horde over a striver is access to whatever social or professional society they control. But that's the inconsistency...somehow "striving" to get into the upper tier is gauche while "striving" to stay there (or keep others out) is not. It's like Tom Wambsgans - he wanted in, and was ridiculed for it, but the moronic Roy offspring were working as hard as they could to stay where they were born. Same, same.

That said, the other issue I see, as a striver, is a code of conduct that the old money has and that the strivers usually do not have. The unwritten rules, the double standards and weird behaviors that one gets from growing up with money. No one speaks directly or honestly, no one likes to answer tough questions, no one seems comfotable "proving" themselves, unless it is on a golf course, or paddle tennis court, or some other weird rich passtime. Strivers made their bones challenging the norms, so they're a square peg. And there is a casualness to it, no one seems to be worried or in a hurry because they're already a part of the club, and most strivers aren't built that way (because if they sat back and didn't worry about achieving, they'd still be grinding it out in some flyover city). And I think the old money hates that more than the concept of someone achieving more than they did.

Definitely no chip on the shoulder there.

And it is 'pastime'.

I absolutely have a chip. It's what keeps me sharp and a step ahead of the soft old money navel gazers who envy my ability to succeed in any situation. I want to be a part of their club simply to say I gained entry.

And thanks for spell-checking my work, Timmy. Here's a quarter for the effort.

Your post perfectly illustrates why people don’t like strivers. They have no manners and are abrasive. Lol at the chip on your shoulder keeping you sharp. You are delusional to think old money is envious of you…or even thinks of you at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Strivers" are motivated by getting ahead of others. Anyone who thinks this way, that they actually can be "ahead" of other people, is a crap person.

Wrong. Strivers are looking to improve their own situation, irrespective of others.

How do you improve your situation "irrespective of others"? We live in a society where everything is relative -- whether we are conscious of it or not. If you are in DC and you are "striving," it's not irrespective of others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear a lot of hate in this forum about “strivers.” What is it exactly that makes someone a striver? The fact that you want to enjoy the fruits of your labor by buying a pretty house or nice car? Is it something more sinister like refusing to associate with people who don’t run with the right crowd?

And why do we hate this strivers? I hear the term associated a lot with new money. I don’t see anything wrong with wanting to better your financial situation. And for the record, a lot of people from old money families came into that money from slave holders, factory owners before the days of safe working conditions, large plantations, etc. Frankly, I’d rather be a self made striver than have had great grands that got rich off the blood and toil of suppressed classes.

it is a class issue. The sort who disdains "stirvers" are the next generation of the old money who realize they did not achieve nearly what the "stivers" achieved. Because they were born on third base and never had to work that hard, and will always wonder if they could have made it without such a boost. So the one thing they can horde over a striver is access to whatever social or professional society they control. But that's the inconsistency...somehow "striving" to get into the upper tier is gauche while "striving" to stay there (or keep others out) is not. It's like Tom Wambsgans - he wanted in, and was ridiculed for it, but the moronic Roy offspring were working as hard as they could to stay where they were born. Same, same.

That said, the other issue I see, as a striver, is a code of conduct that the old money has and that the strivers usually do not have. The unwritten rules, the double standards and weird behaviors that one gets from growing up with money. No one speaks directly or honestly, no one likes to answer tough questions, no one seems comfotable "proving" themselves, unless it is on a golf course, or paddle tennis court, or some other weird rich passtime. Strivers made their bones challenging the norms, so they're a square peg. And there is a casualness to it, no one seems to be worried or in a hurry because they're already a part of the club, and most strivers aren't built that way (because if they sat back and didn't worry about achieving, they'd still be grinding it out in some flyover city). And I think the old money hates that more than the concept of someone achieving more than they did.

Definitely no chip on the shoulder there.

And it is 'pastime'.

I absolutely have a chip. It's what keeps me sharp and a step ahead of the soft old money navel gazers who envy my ability to succeed in any situation. I want to be a part of their club simply to say I gained entry.

And thanks for spell-checking my work, Timmy. Here's a quarter for the effort.

Lol. You certainly do have a chip. Doubt you are ahead of anyone, and if you gain entry to any exclusive clubs I want a front row ticket to mess you make of it given the personality and lack of social skills on display here...