Prince Philip has died...

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read this entire thread nor was I ever interested in the BRF before this last year or two. I think Megan Markle coming out on Oprah to discuss such a faint shade of racism in a year such as the year we've just had is extremely out of touch and goes to show what a privileged jerk she is. I don't care if someone asked how dark her baby might be. I really don't. It's not news that the BRC might be not be as woke as her CA a** and how slighted she feels in a pandemic year and a year of police brutality and murder....pffffttt. NO ONE cares. Go live your richy rich life in Santa Barbara and good job on alienating your husband from his family. YOU SUCK.

If someone asked her with concern how dark skinned her baby would be, that is not "a faint shade of racism." Are you kidding? (I obviously have no idea if this happened, but the allegation is not trivial from my perspective.)

If someone said it was racist, I believe them (or at least, most people). At the same time, I distinctly remember my MIL asking me the same question about our first (what shade do you think he'll be? your tone, or dad's tone) and we are both white. I think it's not an uncommon thing in the AA Community to ask about skin color - same as eye color etc. with whites. It seems like a natural curiousity, esp if one grandparents is black, but relatively light skinned; MM could "pass" for white but isn't, etc. To say otherwise, GENERALLY, is exactly what people saywhen they mean that being old-fashioned and saying you are "color blind" is off.

But again ,it sounds like the implication was that it would be bad if the kid looked black.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read this entire thread nor was I ever interested in the BRF before this last year or two. I think Megan Markle coming out on Oprah to discuss such a faint shade of racism in a year such as the year we've just had is extremely out of touch and goes to show what a privileged jerk she is. I don't care if someone asked how dark her baby might be. I really don't. It's not news that the BRC might be not be as woke as her CA a** and how slighted she feels in a pandemic year and a year of police brutality and murder....pffffttt. NO ONE cares. Go live your richy rich life in Santa Barbara and good job on alienating your husband from his family. YOU SUCK.

If someone asked her with concern how dark skinned her baby would be, that is not "a faint shade of racism." Are you kidding? (I obviously have no idea if this happened, but the allegation is not trivial from my perspective.)

If it was Charles (who also walked her down the aisle remember?) - it might have been old person cluelessness along the same lines as referring to people of Asian descent as "Orientals".
Perhaps it wasn't intended to be offensive, it might have just been curious politeness that was spun out of control. Given the track record of these two grifters (H&M) I lean towards it being innocuous comment by out of touch royalty.

Or it might have been William, we don't know. What's also interesting is that Harry, who overheard the comments, chose to share them with Meghan -- who would have been more directly hurt by such comments.

While the comments might not have been intended to be offensive, they were in no way "innocuous ". Racism, even casual, built-into-the-culture racism is never innocuous.

It's not racist to speculate on whose looks your grandchild (if it was Charles) might inherit. This happens ALL the time. I am sure the family ruminated on ginger hair as well.

Many people who have never been personally, negatively impacted by racism would likely agree with you.

Right.

But here’s the thing: anyone who has felt racism assumes otherwise innocent comments are racist. That doesn’t mean they actually were racist comments. All it means is the person interprets it that way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read this entire thread nor was I ever interested in the BRF before this last year or two. I think Megan Markle coming out on Oprah to discuss such a faint shade of racism in a year such as the year we've just had is extremely out of touch and goes to show what a privileged jerk she is. I don't care if someone asked how dark her baby might be. I really don't. It's not news that the BRC might be not be as woke as her CA a** and how slighted she feels in a pandemic year and a year of police brutality and murder....pffffttt. NO ONE cares. Go live your richy rich life in Santa Barbara and good job on alienating your husband from his family. YOU SUCK.

If someone asked her with concern how dark skinned her baby would be, that is not "a faint shade of racism." Are you kidding? (I obviously have no idea if this happened, but the allegation is not trivial from my perspective.)

If it was Charles (who also walked her down the aisle remember?) - it might have been old person cluelessness along the same lines as referring to people of Asian descent as "Orientals".
Perhaps it wasn't intended to be offensive, it might have just been curious politeness that was spun out of control. Given the track record of these two grifters (H&M) I lean towards it being innocuous comment by out of touch royalty.

Or it might have been William, we don't know. What's also interesting is that Harry, who overheard the comments, chose to share them with Meghan -- who would have been more directly hurt by such comments.

While the comments might not have been intended to be offensive, they were in no way "innocuous ". Racism, even casual, built-into-the-culture racism is never innocuous.

It's not racist to speculate on whose looks your grandchild (if it was Charles) might inherit. This happens ALL the time. I am sure the family ruminated on ginger hair as well.

Many people who have never been personally, negatively impacted by racism would likely agree with you.

Right.

But here’s the thing: anyone who has felt racism assumes otherwise innocent comments are racist. That doesn’t mean they actually were racist comments. All it means is the person interprets it that way.

This^. It’s similar to overweight women moaning on this board about how badly they are treated because they are overweight.
Maybe. Maybe you just interpret it that way because of poor self image.
Or being followed around a store like you are shop lifting. Happens to “the poors” too if they aren’t the right shade of rich.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read this entire thread nor was I ever interested in the BRF before this last year or two. I think Megan Markle coming out on Oprah to discuss such a faint shade of racism in a year such as the year we've just had is extremely out of touch and goes to show what a privileged jerk she is. I don't care if someone asked how dark her baby might be. I really don't. It's not news that the BRC might be not be as woke as her CA a** and how slighted she feels in a pandemic year and a year of police brutality and murder....pffffttt. NO ONE cares. Go live your richy rich life in Santa Barbara and good job on alienating your husband from his family. YOU SUCK.

If someone asked her with concern how dark skinned her baby would be, that is not "a faint shade of racism." Are you kidding? (I obviously have no idea if this happened, but the allegation is not trivial from my perspective.)

If it was Charles (who also walked her down the aisle remember?) - it might have been old person cluelessness along the same lines as referring to people of Asian descent as "Orientals".
Perhaps it wasn't intended to be offensive, it might have just been curious politeness that was spun out of control. Given the track record of these two grifters (H&M) I lean towards it being innocuous comment by out of touch royalty.

Or it might have been William, we don't know. What's also interesting is that Harry, who overheard the comments, chose to share them with Meghan -- who would have been more directly hurt by such comments.

While the comments might not have been intended to be offensive, they were in no way "innocuous ". Racism, even casual, built-into-the-culture racism is never innocuous.

It's not racist to speculate on whose looks your grandchild (if it was Charles) might inherit. This happens ALL the time. I am sure the family ruminated on ginger hair as well.

Many people who have never been personally, negatively impacted by racism would likely agree with you.

Right.

But here’s the thing: anyone who has felt racism assumes otherwise innocent comments are racist. That doesn’t mean they actually were racist comments. All it means is the person interprets it that way.

This^. It’s similar to overweight women moaning on this board about how badly they are treated because they are overweight.
Maybe. Maybe you just interpret it that way because of poor self image.
Or being followed around a store like you are shop lifting. Happens to “the poors” too if they aren’t the right shade of rich.

Thank you for illustrating what gaslighting is. Racism is all in black peoples heads amirite?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read this entire thread nor was I ever interested in the BRF before this last year or two. I think Megan Markle coming out on Oprah to discuss such a faint shade of racism in a year such as the year we've just had is extremely out of touch and goes to show what a privileged jerk she is. I don't care if someone asked how dark her baby might be. I really don't. It's not news that the BRC might be not be as woke as her CA a** and how slighted she feels in a pandemic year and a year of police brutality and murder....pffffttt. NO ONE cares. Go live your richy rich life in Santa Barbara and good job on alienating your husband from his family. YOU SUCK.

If someone asked her with concern how dark skinned her baby would be, that is not "a faint shade of racism." Are you kidding? (I obviously have no idea if this happened, but the allegation is not trivial from my perspective.)

If it was Charles (who also walked her down the aisle remember?) - it might have been old person cluelessness along the same lines as referring to people of Asian descent as "Orientals".
Perhaps it wasn't intended to be offensive, it might have just been curious politeness that was spun out of control. Given the track record of these two grifters (H&M) I lean towards it being innocuous comment by out of touch royalty.

Or it might have been William, we don't know. What's also interesting is that Harry, who overheard the comments, chose to share them with Meghan -- who would have been more directly hurt by such comments.

While the comments might not have been intended to be offensive, they were in no way "innocuous ". Racism, even casual, built-into-the-culture racism is never innocuous.

It's not racist to speculate on whose looks your grandchild (if it was Charles) might inherit. This happens ALL the time. I am sure the family ruminated on ginger hair as well.

Many people who have never been personally, negatively impacted by racism would likely agree with you.

Right.

But here’s the thing: anyone who has felt racism assumes otherwise innocent comments are racist. That doesn’t mean they actually were racist comments. All it means is the person interprets it that way.

So, your argument is that white people, and others privileged enough to have never experienced racism themselves should be the ones who get to determine what is “racist” and what is not? Nah.
People who benefit from racism don’t get to be the only judges of what is and isn’t racist. It’s mighty white of you to suggest this though.
I’m sure that your suggestion that anyone personally impacted by racism is necessarily biased is “innocent”.

[Anonymous]

Ratings are in.

The entire Royal Family, including Queen, Prince of Wales, Cambridges & Co plus Harry versus Harry & Meghan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ratings are in.

The entire Royal Family, including Queen, Prince of Wales, Cambridges & Co plus Harry versus Harry & Meghan

In SHOCKING breaking news - more people tuned in for gossip than a funeral. /s

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read this entire thread nor was I ever interested in the BRF before this last year or two. I think Megan Markle coming out on Oprah to discuss such a faint shade of racism in a year such as the year we've just had is extremely out of touch and goes to show what a privileged jerk she is. I don't care if someone asked how dark her baby might be. I really don't. It's not news that the BRC might be not be as woke as her CA a** and how slighted she feels in a pandemic year and a year of police brutality and murder....pffffttt. NO ONE cares. Go live your richy rich life in Santa Barbara and good job on alienating your husband from his family. YOU SUCK.

If someone asked her with concern how dark skinned her baby would be, that is not "a faint shade of racism." Are you kidding? (I obviously have no idea if this happened, but the allegation is not trivial from my perspective.)

If it was Charles (who also walked her down the aisle remember?) - it might have been old person cluelessness along the same lines as referring to people of Asian descent as "Orientals".
Perhaps it wasn't intended to be offensive, it might have just been curious politeness that was spun out of control. Given the track record of these two grifters (H&M) I lean towards it being innocuous comment by out of touch royalty.

Or it might have been William, we don't know. What's also interesting is that Harry, who overheard the comments, chose to share them with Meghan -- who would have been more directly hurt by such comments.

While the comments might not have been intended to be offensive, they were in no way "innocuous ". Racism, even casual, built-into-the-culture racism is never innocuous.

It's not racist to speculate on whose looks your grandchild (if it was Charles) might inherit. This happens ALL the time. I am sure the family ruminated on ginger hair as well.

Many people who have never been personally, negatively impacted by racism would likely agree with you.

Right.

But here’s the thing: anyone who has felt racism assumes otherwise innocent comments are racist. That doesn’t mean they actually were racist comments. All it means is the person interprets it that way.

So, your argument is that white people, and others privileged enough to have never experienced racism themselves should be the ones who get to determine what is “racist” and what is not? Nah.
People who benefit from racism don’t get to be the only judges of what is and isn’t racist. It’s mighty white of you to suggest this though.
I’m sure that your suggestion that anyone personally impacted by racism is necessarily biased is “innocent”.

Because only whites are racist amiright? It's a two way street even when you twist definitions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ratings are in.

The entire Royal Family, including Queen, Prince of Wales, Cambridges & Co plus Harry versus Harry & Meghan

In SHOCKING breaking news - more people tuned in for gossip than a funeral. /s

Most people will stop and look at a train wreck. I watched Oprah expecting drama and got drama with a dose of proven lies. The Oprah interview was definitely more fun to watch than the funeral.

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Anonymous wrote:Ratings are in.

The entire Royal Family, including Queen, Prince of Wales, Cambridges & Co plus Harry versus Harry & Meghan

In SHOCKING breaking news - more people tuned in for gossip than a funeral. /s

Lol.

Only the hard core Royal watchers and lovers of ceremonies watched on Saturday morning.

All the lookie-loos and rubberneckers dialed in for the prime time interview on and otherwise boring Sunday night.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ratings are in.

The entire Royal Family, including Queen, Prince of Wales, Cambridges & Co plus Harry versus Harry & Meghan

In SHOCKING breaking news - more people tuned in for gossip than a funeral. /s

Lol.

Only the hard core Royal watchers and lovers of ceremonies watched on Saturday morning.

All the lookie-loos and rubberneckers dialed in for the prime time interview on and otherwise boring Sunday night.

It actually is pretty shocking. More people watch Royal funerals, weddings, and baby Lion King moments than any other point of Royal life. Those moments actually build the Royal safety net and keep them being seen in the eyes of the public. Why do you think Kate was decked out in jewels at that funeral? No one else was.

To have Harry & Meghan outstrip them so easily...trust me Fergie sitting on Oprah's couch in the 1990s didn't do anything for her or outpace the Royal family in any way.

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Anonymous wrote:Ratings are in.

The entire Royal Family, including Queen, Prince of Wales, Cambridges & Co plus Harry versus Harry & Meghan

In SHOCKING breaking news - more people tuned in for gossip than a funeral. /s

Lol.

Only the hard core Royal watchers and lovers of ceremonies watched on Saturday morning.

All the lookie-loos and rubberneckers dialed in for the prime time interview on and otherwise boring Sunday night.

Prime Time with lots of advertising and teasers of salacious gossip or the early morning (in the US) funeral of a 99 year and the hope of a 5 second glimpse of some royals. Hmmmm.

It actually is pretty shocking. More people watch Royal funerals, weddings, and baby Lion King moments than any other point of Royal life. Those moments actually build the Royal safety net and keep them being seen in the eyes of the public. Why do you think Kate was decked out in jewels at that funeral? No one else was.

To have Harry & Meghan outstrip them so easily...trust me Fergie sitting on Oprah's couch in the 1990s didn't do anything for her or outpace the Royal family in any way.

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Anonymous wrote:Ratings are in.

The entire Royal Family, including Queen, Prince of Wales, Cambridges & Co plus Harry versus Harry & Meghan

In SHOCKING breaking news - more people tuned in for gossip than a funeral. /s

Lol.

Only the hard core Royal watchers and lovers of ceremonies watched on Saturday morning.

All the lookie-loos and rubberneckers dialed in for the prime time interview on and otherwise boring Sunday night.

It actually is pretty shocking. More people watch Royal funerals, weddings, and baby Lion King moments than any other point of Royal life. Those moments actually build the Royal safety net and keep them being seen in the eyes of the public. Why do you think Kate was decked out in jewels at that funeral? No one else was.

To have Harry & Meghan outstrip them so easily...trust me Fergie sitting on Oprah's couch in the 1990s didn't do anything for her or outpace the Royal family in any way.

“Outstrip?” What does that mean? Surely you understand that any of the major royals could’ve scored an interview with Oprah and a Netflix deal.

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Anonymous wrote:Who knows if any of this happened? It's already been proven that Harry and Meghan lied about some of the interview.

Without knowing the context and who said it, how can we know if it's accurate? Meghan and Harry have an agenda they are pushing. It serves their purpose to have everyone view the Royal Family as evil and racist.

Exactly this. Harry and Meghan have a credibility problem. So when says - my husband told me someone who shall remain nameless wondered about the skin color of the baby, i cant help but remember all the lies and half truths they told in that interview and their accusation just doesnt make a lot of sense.

I find it far more interesting that she didnt dispute that she threw a fit because she didnt get to wear the tiara she wanted to. Poor, poor meghan, amiright?

[Anonymous]

Noooo.

Its like finding out that your old 90 yr old neighbor in Panama was actually a Nazi guard who did horrible things. Why? Why do frail old men turn out to be horrible people instead of nice harmless lovable jolly person like say Santa Clause? Why?

This world is so unfair and terrible.