Barr and Durham

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Sussmann about to plea after this motion to dismiss was denied. Or will he take one for the team?


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Anonymous wrote:Sussmann about to plea after this motion to dismiss was denied. Or will he take one for the team?




Why do you conclude a plea is imminent? Motions to dismiss are routine. Their denials are routine, too.
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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true



All has since been discredited. It’s all unraveled.


Do you not understand that the aforementioned document is the Senate Intelligence Committee report which was put together under Republican-led leadership?


DP.
Doesn't matter. It has all been discredited. More evidence has come to light.
Problem with Congressional committee investigations is that they usually amount to squat and often times, incorrect conclusions.


No, it hasn't. Not even the Steele Dossier was "all discredited." Around 75% of the dossier's content was independently corroborated as true. Another 15% or so was verified as generally true but with minor, nonsubstantive inaccuracies. Around 10% remains yet to be proven, but very little of the content was actually disproven, contrary to the right wing bleating about how it was completely false and completely debunked.

The only "more evidence has come to light" are a tiny handful of things like "Clinesmith lied on the FISA warrant" when Clinesmith didn't know Page was an informant - and even those findings don't actually substantively debunk or affect any of the findings.


My Lord, woman. Wishing it so will not make the dossier a legitimate thing.

The only reason any of it was true was because the dossier was compiled using open source information..... stuff that was already out in the press.

The Steele report reads like a pile of rumors surrounded by public information pulled off the Internet, and the Horowitz report does nothing to dispel this notion.
At the time the FBI submitted its first FISA application, Horowitz writes, it had “corroborated limited information in Steele’s election reporting, and most of that was publicly available information.” Horowitz says of Steele’s reports: “The CIA viewed it as ‘internet rumor.’”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/horowitz-report-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/

And, there has been a whole bunch of other information that has come out regarding the FISA warrants. A lot.

The dossier, compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele for political opposition research firm Fusion GPS, which was hired by the Clinton campaign and Democratic party, was “central and essential” to the FBI’s Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) application to spy on Trump campaign aide Carter Page. However, the IG report noted that the application contained numerous errors and omission. The newly-declassified footnotes show that the FBI was aware of significant problems with dossier’s sources while seeking or renewing the spying authority, yet they continued to push forward, failing to update the FISA court with the critical exculpatory information.

For example, footnote 350 indicates that the FBI received a U.S. intelligence report on January 12, 2017, warning of an inaccuracy in the dossier related to Michael Cohen, and assessing that the material was “part of a Russian disinformation campaign to denigrate U.S. foreign relations.”

That same day, the FISA warrant against Page was renewed for the first time.

A similar U.S. intelligence report arrived on February 28, 2017, undercutting a key allegation against Trump, noting the claims “were false, and that they were the product of RIS “infiltrat[ing] a source into the network” of sources that contributed to the dossier.

Just over a month later, the FISA warrant was renewed a second time.

According to footnote 342, in early June of 2017, after Special Counsel Mueller had taken over the investigation, investigators learned that Russian intelligence was aware of Steele’s opposition research work in early July of 2016, before the FBI began its investigation.

On June 27, 2017, the FISA warrant was renewed a third time.


https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/ig-footnotes-serious-problems-dossier-sources-didn-t-stop-fbi-s-page-surveillance


Sure, it's all fake and was all debunked. 34 indictments from the Mueller investigation say otherwise. Your entire "debunking" consists of a.) an opinion piece and b.) a FISA technicality. Again, NONE of which actually substantively affects the content of anything.

"Lord, woman" yourself.



The Trump fans are delusional. They believe anything that orange fat grifter tells them.


Clinton paid for the Dossier.


Conservative Washington Examiner paid for the first several installments of the Trump Dossier before Clinton was even involved. And so what if Clinton paid for a portion of it? It is not a crime to do so. And, as if no Republican ever paid for oppo research? They do it all the time. Are you really that clueless and naive?


This is absolutely false.
Steele is the author of the dossier. He did not come on board until the DNC and Clinton campaign got involved.
Get your facts straight.

And it’s not a crime, but remember that both the DNC and Clinton campaign were fined for improperly listing these expenses because they were trying to hide them.


No. You get YOUR facts straight. The oppo research dossier was started BEFORE Clinton and BEFORE Steele, as Republican Primary oppo research funded by the Washington Examiner on behalf of one of Trump's Primary opponents. After the GOP Primary it was shopped to the Dems and expanded on with additional international research by Steele. Steele only authored a portion of it. If you aren't aware of the FULL history of the dossier then you have been fed a pack of lies.


False

Continetti and Goldfarb wrote that they hired the political research firm Fusion GPS "to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary, just as we retained other firms to assist in our research into Hillary Clinton.

"All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier," they added.


https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/28/560544607/conservative-website-initially-hired-firm-that-later-produced-trump-dossier


Semantics.

Same company, same intent, same product. Steele just added a few new chapters to the book.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sussmann about to plea after this motion to dismiss was denied. Or will he take one for the team?




BS, he’s not going to plead and they’re going to trial. Here’s the whole order, just just anonymous RWNJ on Twitter guy’s excerpt.
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000180-23c9-dfcf-a58b-afed6faf0000
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Anonymous wrote:Sussmann about to plea after this motion to dismiss was denied. Or will he take one for the team?




BS, he’s not going to plead and they’re going to trial. Here’s the whole order, just just anonymous RWNJ on Twitter guy’s excerpt.
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000180-23c9-dfcf-a58b-afed6faf0000


Yeah, if I'm Sussman I'm taking my chances with a jury 100%.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sussmann about to plea after this motion to dismiss was denied. Or will he take one for the team?




He’s not taking a plea. This motion was always a long shot and it’s not surprising it was denied. I am sure Sussman knew that. If anything, the judge did him a favor since the acquittal next month will be final, while Durham could have appealed a dismissal and kept this charade going.
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LOL, you all are still falling for the Fox News anything and Durham.

So sad.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Speaking of sad, who within Clintonworld created this YUUUGE intelligence blunder?

https://nypost.com/2022/04/16/john-durham-says-cia-knew-trump-russia-plot-was-user-created__trashed/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter


That is as ignorant as it gets. The Mueller Report confirmed coordination between Russia and the Trump campaign. It isn’t debatable. Durham and the New York Post are gaslighting ignorant people.
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Not sure Durham even understands technology.
Anonymous
Speaking of ignorant, didnt realize $100k in Facebook ads in 2016 by Russia is considered collusion. The Mueller report didn't find anything of the sorts however it will be proven in court by Durham of real crimes by Clinton.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Speaking of ignorant, didnt realize $100k in Facebook ads in 2016 by Russia is considered collusion. The Mueller report didn't find anything of the sorts however it will be proven in court by Durham of real crimes by Clinton.

You should hold your breath waiting for that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Speaking of ignorant, didnt realize $100k in Facebook ads in 2016 by Russia is considered collusion. The Mueller report didn't find anything of the sorts however it will be proven in court by Durham of real crimes by Clinton.


You are delusional. Get help.
Anonymous
Facts are stubborn things, especially when they don't jive with the narrative of those on the left.
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