Harvard tell Trump to pound sand

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares about Harvard

And Trump knows how to separate voters from the Democrats

Unfortunately the optics of wealthy universities with huge endowments getting Federal funding for anything other than student aid looks bad to working and middle class Americans.

Federal funding produces this: https://www.nature.com/nature-index/institution-outputs/generate/all/global/all

With Harvard knee-capped, China rules.

Great we don't have to fund the research or teach the foreigners English in our classes. Let the businesses go and get their students and sponsor a green card directly then do a genuine PERM or LCA search to prove they can't find it here. Instead of bringing them here then having us train them let them do an internship or three. Oh, but now they can't find the talent. Meanwhile all of our classmates and coworkers are annoying even for the least racist of us.

BTW have you actually ever read any of those Chinese journal articles? I was reviewing one. I went and did a Google search to see if they had all of the references. The authors had already published nearly the exact same paper. Like the abstract and the first two pages were exactly the same. Same authors in a different order.

IMO that is the real problem with the Chinese education system. Its portfolio based instead of standardized testing based, so they can just use the same publications and portfolios over and over again. That's what I thought when I heard the Ivies were trying to get away from standardized testing.

Peter Navarro aka Ron Varra is the biggest hack around and he was running USA economic policy for Trump and crashing the stock market.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Is this some kind of joke?

NO ONE believes the Ivies or most of the T50 are “institutions of free thought” anymore.

I know plenty of trumpers with kids in college right now. None of them want trump wasting our time and energy with this attack on Harvard and other universities. They hate migrants. They hate immigrants. They're not too fond of dark-skinned people. But they are not interested in doing battle with Harvard University and higher education . Not at all. I don't think they get why he focuses on this of all things.

This is just useless destruction. Harvard in higher education is wounded but come out the other side and go on long after Trump is gone.

Harvard must honestly and deeply embrace diversity; meaning: diversity of political opinion.

The overwhelming majority of Harvard professors and administrators are firmly on the left, with many on the far-left. They have also migrated toward antisemitism or acceptance of antisemitism at Harvard.

Acceptance of diversity of political opinion is Harvard’s only path forward.

The government cannot and must not tell Harvard which professors to hire or what those professors can teach.

Exactly. And they don't need government money. Hire all the leftists they want, and do it on their own.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Is this some kind of joke?

NO ONE believes the Ivies or most of the T50 are “institutions of free thought” anymore.

I know plenty of trumpers with kids in college right now. None of them want trump wasting our time and energy with this attack on Harvard and other universities. They hate migrants. They hate immigrants. They're not too fond of dark-skinned people. But they are not interested in doing battle with Harvard University and higher education . Not at all. I don't think they get why he focuses on this of all things.

This is just useless destruction. Harvard in higher education is wounded but come out the other side and go on long after Trump is gone.

Harvard must honestly and deeply embrace diversity; meaning: diversity of political opinion.

The overwhelming majority of Harvard professors and administrators are firmly on the left, with many on the far-left. They have also migrated toward antisemitism or acceptance of antisemitism at Harvard.

Acceptance of diversity of political opinion is Harvard’s only path forward.

What sort of nonsense are you spewing?!

1/4 of Harvard professors are Jewish. The president of Harvard is Jewish. Do you think they accept antisemitism?

What do you know about the political preferences for Harvard professors? Have you polled them? Here's one factoid: The (many) professors at Harvard Business School are not mostly left, much less far-left. The university is a big institution that covers lots of disciplines and lots of types of people.

Stop makiing gradiose, screw assertions when you have no idea what you are talking about.

Why do you refer to facts as “nonsense?” Could you have a political motive, perhaps?

The fact is, demographic surveys of university faculty that began in the 1950s and continue to the present, have found higher percentages of liberals than of conservatives, particularly among those who work in the humanities and social sciences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Today's news says Trump totld the federal government to cut all ties with Harvard, and that those remaining contracts amount to about $100 million.

What's fascinating about that is that it shows that Trump's quiver is empty. The researcher contracts are substantial. Threatening foreign students is a big deal. Cutting $100 million in contracts? Well, that matters, but not all that much.

What will Trump do on Thursday or Friday when he needs to show again what a big, strong boy he is but he has nothing left to act on?

I guess he’ll go to the next school
On the list of rejections-
Univ penn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What am I missing here? It sounds like Harvard has taken meaningful steps against antisemitism. It also sounds like there are far worse alleged offenders, ranging from elite schools, mediocre ones, and third tier.

Why did they wait so long to take action?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Is this some kind of joke?

NO ONE believes the Ivies or most of the T50 are “institutions of free thought” anymore.

I know plenty of trumpers with kids in college right now. None of them want trump wasting our time and energy with this attack on Harvard and other universities. They hate migrants. They hate immigrants. They're not too fond of dark-skinned people. But they are not interested in doing battle with Harvard University and higher education . Not at all. I don't think they get why he focuses on this of all things.

This is just useless destruction. Harvard in higher education is wounded but come out the other side and go on long after Trump is gone.

Harvard must honestly and deeply embrace diversity; meaning: diversity of political opinion.

The overwhelming majority of Harvard professors and administrators are firmly on the left, with many on the far-left. They have also migrated toward antisemitism or acceptance of antisemitism at Harvard.

Acceptance of diversity of political opinion is Harvard’s only path forward.

The government cannot and must not tell Harvard which professors to hire or what those professors can teach.

Exactly. And they don't need government money. Hire all the leftists they want, and do it on their own.

leftist cancer research? leftist physics research?

the money isn't going to social science research. It is going to AI, medicine, energy sources, etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Harvard hasn't encouraged free thought in decades.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Is this some kind of joke?

NO ONE believes the Ivies or most of the T50 are “institutions of free thought” anymore.

I know plenty of trumpers with kids in college right now. None of them want trump wasting our time and energy with this attack on Harvard and other universities. They hate migrants. They hate immigrants. They're not too fond of dark-skinned people. But they are not interested in doing battle with Harvard University and higher education . Not at all. I don't think they get why he focuses on this of all things.

This is just useless destruction. Harvard in higher education is wounded but come out the other side and go on long after Trump is gone.

Harvard must honestly and deeply embrace diversity; meaning: diversity of political opinion.

The overwhelming majority of Harvard professors and administrators are firmly on the left, with many on the far-left. They have also migrated toward antisemitism or acceptance of antisemitism at Harvard.

Acceptance of diversity of political opinion is Harvard’s only path forward.

What sort of nonsense are you spewing?!

1/4 of Harvard professors are Jewish. The president of Harvard is Jewish. Do you think they accept antisemitism?

What do you know about the political preferences for Harvard professors? Have you polled them? Here's one factoid: The (many) professors at Harvard Business School are not mostly left, much less far-left. The university is a big institution that covers lots of disciplines and lots of types of people.

Stop makiing gradiose, screw assertions when you have no idea what you are talking about.

Why do you refer to facts as “nonsense?” Could you have a political motive, perhaps?

The fact is, demographic surveys of university faculty that began in the 1950s and continue to the present, have found higher percentages of liberals than of conservatives, particularly among those who work in the humanities and social sciences.

This is true.

The HERI survey of universities found, as of 2014, while surveying 16,112 professors, the percentage of liberal/far left had increased to 60%. HERI conducts the survey nation-wide, but is centered within UCLA.

Going all the way back to 1999, the NAASS survey found the ratio of those identifying themselves as Democrat to those identifying as Republican to be 12 to 1 in the humanities, and 6.5 to 1 in the social sciences.

Gross and Simmons intentionally widened their sampling to include professors at the community college level. They concluded that the professors were 44% liberal, 46% moderates, and 9% conservative.

To the PP:

- it is patently laughable for you to question the fact that university professors fall overwhelmingly to the left of center in their political outlook. Seriously laughable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Is this some kind of joke?

NO ONE believes the Ivies or most of the T50 are “institutions of free thought” anymore.

I know plenty of trumpers with kids in college right now. None of them want trump wasting our time and energy with this attack on Harvard and other universities. They hate migrants. They hate immigrants. They're not too fond of dark-skinned people. But they are not interested in doing battle with Harvard University and higher education . Not at all. I don't think they get why he focuses on this of all things.

This is just useless destruction. Harvard in higher education is wounded but come out the other side and go on long after Trump is gone.

Harvard must honestly and deeply embrace diversity; meaning: diversity of political opinion.

The overwhelming majority of Harvard professors and administrators are firmly on the left, with many on the far-left. They have also migrated toward antisemitism or acceptance of antisemitism at Harvard.

Acceptance of diversity of political opinion is Harvard’s only path forward.

What sort of nonsense are you spewing?!

1/4 of Harvard professors are Jewish. The president of Harvard is Jewish. Do you think they accept antisemitism?

What do you know about the political preferences for Harvard professors? Have you polled them? Here's one factoid: The (many) professors at Harvard Business School are not mostly left, much less far-left. The university is a big institution that covers lots of disciplines and lots of types of people.

Stop makiing gradiose, screw assertions when you have no idea what you are talking about.

Why do you refer to facts as “nonsense?” Could you have a political motive, perhaps?

The fact is, demographic surveys of university faculty that began in the 1950s and continue to the present, have found higher percentages of liberals than of conservatives, particularly among those who work in the humanities and social sciences.

This is true.

The HERI survey of universities found, as of 2014, while surveying 16,112 professors, the percentage of liberal/far left had increased to 60%. HERI conducts the survey nation-wide, but is centered within UCLA.

Going all the way back to 1999, the NAASS survey found the ratio of those identifying themselves as Democrat to those identifying as Republican to be 12 to 1 in the humanities, and 6.5 to 1 in the social sciences.

Gross and Simmons intentionally widened their sampling to include professors at the community college level. They concluded that the professors were 44% liberal, 46% moderates, and 9% conservative.

To the PP:

- it is patently laughable for you to question the fact that university professors fall overwhelmingly to the left of center in their political outlook. Seriously laughable.

But remember that “liberal” in the U.S. is center right in the rest of the world. If you listened to Saint Ronnie, Eisenhower, even McCain today, you’d think they were democrats. MAGA is fringe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Is this some kind of joke?

NO ONE believes the Ivies or most of the T50 are “institutions of free thought” anymore.

I know plenty of trumpers with kids in college right now. None of them want trump wasting our time and energy with this attack on Harvard and other universities. They hate migrants. They hate immigrants. They're not too fond of dark-skinned people. But they are not interested in doing battle with Harvard University and higher education . Not at all. I don't think they get why he focuses on this of all things.

This is just useless destruction. Harvard in higher education is wounded but come out the other side and go on long after Trump is gone.

Harvard must honestly and deeply embrace diversity; meaning: diversity of political opinion.

The overwhelming majority of Harvard professors and administrators are firmly on the left, with many on the far-left. They have also migrated toward antisemitism or acceptance of antisemitism at Harvard.

Acceptance of diversity of political opinion is Harvard’s only path forward.

The government cannot and must not tell Harvard which professors to hire or what those professors can teach.

Exactly. And they don't need government money. Hire all the leftists they want, and do it on their own.

Pro tip: Just because you are a far right extremist doesn’t mean that people to the left of you are leftists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Is this some kind of joke?

NO ONE believes the Ivies or most of the T50 are “institutions of free thought” anymore.

I know plenty of trumpers with kids in college right now. None of them want trump wasting our time and energy with this attack on Harvard and other universities. They hate migrants. They hate immigrants. They're not too fond of dark-skinned people. But they are not interested in doing battle with Harvard University and higher education . Not at all. I don't think they get why he focuses on this of all things.

This is just useless destruction. Harvard in higher education is wounded but come out the other side and go on long after Trump is gone.

Harvard must honestly and deeply embrace diversity; meaning: diversity of political opinion.

The overwhelming majority of Harvard professors and administrators are firmly on the left, with many on the far-left. They have also migrated toward antisemitism or acceptance of antisemitism at Harvard.

Acceptance of diversity of political opinion is Harvard’s only path forward.

The government cannot and must not tell Harvard which professors to hire or what those professors can teach.

Exactly. And they don't need government money. Hire all the leftists they want, and do it on their own.

Pro tip: Just because you are a far right extremist doesn’t mean that people to the left of you are leftists.

Pro tip: Don't make assumptions with limited knowledge. I have two relatives who were professors at Harvard, I'm a moderate who voted for Harris, and I can't stand Trump.

[Anonymous]

It's not indoctrination that educated people being less right politically.

It's *because* they are educated, critically thinking people that they tend left.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Is this some kind of joke?

NO ONE believes the Ivies or most of the T50 are “institutions of free thought” anymore.

I know plenty of trumpers with kids in college right now. None of them want trump wasting our time and energy with this attack on Harvard and other universities. They hate migrants. They hate immigrants. They're not too fond of dark-skinned people. But they are not interested in doing battle with Harvard University and higher education . Not at all. I don't think they get why he focuses on this of all things.

This is just useless destruction. Harvard in higher education is wounded but come out the other side and go on long after Trump is gone.

Harvard must honestly and deeply embrace diversity; meaning: diversity of political opinion.

The overwhelming majority of Harvard professors and administrators are firmly on the left, with many on the far-left. They have also migrated toward antisemitism or acceptance of antisemitism at Harvard.

Acceptance of diversity of political opinion is Harvard’s only path forward.

The government cannot and must not tell Harvard which professors to hire or what those professors can teach.

Exactly. And they don't need government money. Hire all the leftists they want, and do it on their own.

Pro tip: Just because you are a far right extremist doesn’t mean that people to the left of you are leftists.

Pro tip: Don't make assumptions with limited knowledge. I have two relatives who were professors at Harvard, I'm a moderate who voted for Harris, and I can't stand Trump.

Sure, this sounds very real.

[Anonymous]

Harvard doesn't need government money.

Just patent all the super productive and valuable research results. It is such a good investment. I don't know why they even want government to horn in on their outstanding highest academic level cancer cures.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Is this some kind of joke?

NO ONE believes the Ivies or most of the T50 are “institutions of free thought” anymore.

I know plenty of trumpers with kids in college right now. None of them want trump wasting our time and energy with this attack on Harvard and other universities. They hate migrants. They hate immigrants. They're not too fond of dark-skinned people. But they are not interested in doing battle with Harvard University and higher education . Not at all. I don't think they get why he focuses on this of all things.

This is just useless destruction. Harvard in higher education is wounded but come out the other side and go on long after Trump is gone.

Harvard must honestly and deeply embrace diversity; meaning: diversity of political opinion.

The overwhelming majority of Harvard professors and administrators are firmly on the left, with many on the far-left. They have also migrated toward antisemitism or acceptance of antisemitism at Harvard.

Acceptance of diversity of political opinion is Harvard’s only path forward.

Highly educated people are overwhelmingly liberal.

Are you suggesting Harvard needs to adopt DEI to balance things out with unqualified conservatives?

Middle of the pack

True geniuses are conservative like Musk. Academics and liberals are rule followers and conformists always being told what to do and completing their assignments

Horse hockey!