Harvard tell Trump to pound sand

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Anonymous wrote:Every single college in the US needs to vocalize their support of Harvard. If we allow Trump to take Harvard down, they’re all going down. To be replaced by for-profit patriotic centers of learning.

The silence is deafening.






Start by making your university campus a safe-space for Jewish students; then we’ll talk.


Feeling uncomfortable — or even feeling harassed — doesn’t actually mean they’re not safe on campus. And Bill Ackman complaining about what some undergrads say about Israel is no reason to put the full force of the federal government into trying to destroy an institution. (This is just one Jewish Ivy League, non-Harvard, graduate’s opinion, but still.)


And if the presence of KKK members doing what thoae protestors did made Black students uncomfortable and/or feeling harrassed?

Black person here. Feel free to go f--k yourself, you pompous, racist scum.

The KKK was created to serve as a paramilitary death squad wielding state power while giving the government plausible deniability. Its sole purpose was to murder and terrorize Black people back into subjugation as close to slavery as possible. At its height, its members were the most powerful members of society, including multiple presidents and countless governors, mayors, federal law enforcement heads, state law enforcement heads, and wealthy businesspeople. Today, the KKK remains in existence solely in the hopes of restoring an overtly anti-Black racial order.

You really have the audacity to suggest that the students protesting Israel's ongoing genocide on campuses are positioned in relation to Jews and Israelis as the KKK is to Black people?

Black history and pain are not yours to exploit as cheap talking points.

Trash.


DP. If that's all they were doing, that's protected by the First Amendment. But it isn't and you know it. The anti-Israel "protesters" are using violence to intimidate and harass Jewish students, taking over buildings, destroying property, etc... They are acting exactly like the KKK, but instead of hoods they're wearing keffiyes to conceal their identities. Same outfit, different cloth pattern.

No they are not and your diminishing the horrors the KKK did speaks volumes about who you are and it is nasty. How many people were murdered, killed, lynched, burned by the anti-Israel protestors on the campus. Zero. You cannot say the same about the KKK and similar white supremacists. Both the hateful racial mass-shootings in Charleston and Buffalo linked the shooters to these white supremacists organizations.


Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? "They are acting exactly like the KKK". The KKK concealed their identities (check), harassed people (check), destroyed property (check), etc... Are you denying these actions by current anti-Israel protesters? If so, I recommend reviewing the hours and hours of video footage from numerous news sources.


I’m not one of the PPs in this particular thread, but are you seriously comparing a group that engaged in these practices over the existence of people of color in their town with people who are opposing those committing war crimes? Like, for real?


On which college campuses are the protestors protesting the war crimes of Hamas?
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Anonymous wrote:Every single college in the US needs to vocalize their support of Harvard. If we allow Trump to take Harvard down, they’re all going down. To be replaced by for-profit patriotic centers of learning.

The silence is deafening.






Start by making your university campus a safe-space for Jewish students; then we’ll talk.


Feeling uncomfortable — or even feeling harassed — doesn’t actually mean they’re not safe on campus. And Bill Ackman complaining about what some undergrads say about Israel is no reason to put the full force of the federal government into trying to destroy an institution. (This is just one Jewish Ivy League, non-Harvard, graduate’s opinion, but still.)


And if the presence of KKK members doing what thoae protestors did made Black students uncomfortable and/or feeling harrassed?

Black person here. Feel free to go f--k yourself, you pompous, racist scum.

The KKK was created to serve as a paramilitary death squad wielding state power while giving the government plausible deniability. Its sole purpose was to murder and terrorize Black people back into subjugation as close to slavery as possible. At its height, its members were the most powerful members of society, including multiple presidents and countless governors, mayors, federal law enforcement heads, state law enforcement heads, and wealthy businesspeople. Today, the KKK remains in existence solely in the hopes of restoring an overtly anti-Black racial order.

You really have the audacity to suggest that the students protesting Israel's ongoing genocide on campuses are positioned in relation to Jews and Israelis as the KKK is to Black people?

Black history and pain are not yours to exploit as cheap talking points.

Trash.


DP. If that's all they were doing, that's protected by the First Amendment. But it isn't and you know it. The anti-Israel "protesters" are using violence to intimidate and harass Jewish students, taking over buildings, destroying property, etc... They are acting exactly like the KKK, but instead of hoods they're wearing keffiyes to conceal their identities. Same outfit, different cloth pattern.

No they are not and your diminishing the horrors the KKK did speaks volumes about who you are and it is nasty. How many people were murdered, killed, lynched, burned by the anti-Israel protestors on the campus. Zero. You cannot say the same about the KKK and similar white supremacists. Both the hateful racial mass-shootings in Charleston and Buffalo linked the shooters to these white supremacists organizations.


Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? "They are acting exactly like the KKK". The KKK concealed their identities (check), harassed people (check), destroyed property (check), etc... Are you denying these actions by current anti-Israel protesters? If so, I recommend reviewing the hours and hours of video footage from numerous news sources.


I’m not one of the PPs in this particular thread, but are you seriously comparing a group that engaged in these practices over the existence of people of color in their town with people who are opposing those committing war crimes? Like, for real?


On which college campuses are the protestors protesting the war crimes of Hamas?


The protesters don't have to protest both sides of the war equally in order to be fair to Jewish kids, so who cares whether anyone is protesting the crimes of Hamas?
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Anonymous wrote:Every single college in the US needs to vocalize their support of Harvard. If we allow Trump to take Harvard down, they’re all going down. To be replaced by for-profit patriotic centers of learning.

The silence is deafening.






Start by making your university campus a safe-space for Jewish students; then we’ll talk.


Feeling uncomfortable — or even feeling harassed — doesn’t actually mean they’re not safe on campus. And Bill Ackman complaining about what some undergrads say about Israel is no reason to put the full force of the federal government into trying to destroy an institution. (This is just one Jewish Ivy League, non-Harvard, graduate’s opinion, but still.)


And if the presence of KKK members doing what thoae protestors did made Black students uncomfortable and/or feeling harrassed?

Black person here. Feel free to go f--k yourself, you pompous, racist scum.

The KKK was created to serve as a paramilitary death squad wielding state power while giving the government plausible deniability. Its sole purpose was to murder and terrorize Black people back into subjugation as close to slavery as possible. At its height, its members were the most powerful members of society, including multiple presidents and countless governors, mayors, federal law enforcement heads, state law enforcement heads, and wealthy businesspeople. Today, the KKK remains in existence solely in the hopes of restoring an overtly anti-Black racial order.

You really have the audacity to suggest that the students protesting Israel's ongoing genocide on campuses are positioned in relation to Jews and Israelis as the KKK is to Black people?

Black history and pain are not yours to exploit as cheap talking points.

Trash.


DP. If that's all they were doing, that's protected by the First Amendment. But it isn't and you know it. The anti-Israel "protesters" are using violence to intimidate and harass Jewish students, taking over buildings, destroying property, etc... They are acting exactly like the KKK, but instead of hoods they're wearing keffiyes to conceal their identities. Same outfit, different cloth pattern.

No they are not and your diminishing the horrors the KKK did speaks volumes about who you are and it is nasty. How many people were murdered, killed, lynched, burned by the anti-Israel protestors on the campus. Zero. You cannot say the same about the KKK and similar white supremacists. Both the hateful racial mass-shootings in Charleston and Buffalo linked the shooters to these white supremacists organizations.


Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? "They are acting exactly like the KKK". The KKK concealed their identities (check), harassed people (check), destroyed property (check), etc... Are you denying these actions by current anti-Israel protesters? If so, I recommend reviewing the hours and hours of video footage from numerous news sources.


I’m not one of the PPs in this particular thread, but are you seriously comparing a group that engaged in these practices over the existence of people of color in their town with people who are opposing those committing war crimes? Like, for real?


On which college campuses are the protestors protesting the war crimes of Hamas?


The protesters don't have to protest both sides of the war equally in order to be fair to Jewish kids, so who cares whether anyone is protesting the crimes of Hamas?


Ahhh...got it and not surprised that the protestors (and you?) feel that way about Hamas.
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Anonymous wrote:Every single college in the US needs to vocalize their support of Harvard. If we allow Trump to take Harvard down, they’re all going down. To be replaced by for-profit patriotic centers of learning.

The silence is deafening.






Start by making your university campus a safe-space for Jewish students; then we’ll talk.


Feeling uncomfortable — or even feeling harassed — doesn’t actually mean they’re not safe on campus. And Bill Ackman complaining about what some undergrads say about Israel is no reason to put the full force of the federal government into trying to destroy an institution. (This is just one Jewish Ivy League, non-Harvard, graduate’s opinion, but still.)


And if the presence of KKK members doing what thoae protestors did made Black students uncomfortable and/or feeling harrassed?

Black person here. Feel free to go f--k yourself, you pompous, racist scum.

The KKK was created to serve as a paramilitary death squad wielding state power while giving the government plausible deniability. Its sole purpose was to murder and terrorize Black people back into subjugation as close to slavery as possible. At its height, its members were the most powerful members of society, including multiple presidents and countless governors, mayors, federal law enforcement heads, state law enforcement heads, and wealthy businesspeople. Today, the KKK remains in existence solely in the hopes of restoring an overtly anti-Black racial order.

You really have the audacity to suggest that the students protesting Israel's ongoing genocide on campuses are positioned in relation to Jews and Israelis as the KKK is to Black people?

Black history and pain are not yours to exploit as cheap talking points.

Trash.


DP. If that's all they were doing, that's protected by the First Amendment. But it isn't and you know it. The anti-Israel "protesters" are using violence to intimidate and harass Jewish students, taking over buildings, destroying property, etc... They are acting exactly like the KKK, but instead of hoods they're wearing keffiyes to conceal their identities. Same outfit, different cloth pattern.

No they are not and your diminishing the horrors the KKK did speaks volumes about who you are and it is nasty. How many people were murdered, killed, lynched, burned by the anti-Israel protestors on the campus. Zero. You cannot say the same about the KKK and similar white supremacists. Both the hateful racial mass-shootings in Charleston and Buffalo linked the shooters to these white supremacists organizations.


Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? "They are acting exactly like the KKK". The KKK concealed their identities (check), harassed people (check), destroyed property (check), etc... Are you denying these actions by current anti-Israel protesters? If so, I recommend reviewing the hours and hours of video footage from numerous news sources.


I’m not one of the PPs in this particular thread, but are you seriously comparing a group that engaged in these practices over the existence of people of color in their town with people who are opposing those committing war crimes? Like, for real?


On which college campuses are the protestors protesting the war crimes of Hamas?


The protesters don't have to protest both sides of the war equally in order to be fair to Jewish kids, so who cares whether anyone is protesting the crimes of Hamas?


Ahhh...got it and not surprised that the protestors (and you?) feel that way about Hamas.


Why would you protest Hamas? Is the University supporting Hamas? Or are people protesting the treatment of the Palestinians? Are people protesting against Jewish people or the works of Israel? Are there simply conflicts between two groups of opposing political groups that have clearly identified themselves, as happens on college campuses and other institutions of education and thought?

I mean, you have a very silly argument. It’s as bad as trumps, and he’s the worst at it.
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Anonymous wrote:Every single college in the US needs to vocalize their support of Harvard. If we allow Trump to take Harvard down, they’re all going down. To be replaced by for-profit patriotic centers of learning.

The silence is deafening.






Start by making your university campus a safe-space for Jewish students; then we’ll talk.


Feeling uncomfortable — or even feeling harassed — doesn’t actually mean they’re not safe on campus. And Bill Ackman complaining about what some undergrads say about Israel is no reason to put the full force of the federal government into trying to destroy an institution. (This is just one Jewish Ivy League, non-Harvard, graduate’s opinion, but still.)


And if the presence of KKK members doing what thoae protestors did made Black students uncomfortable and/or feeling harrassed?

Black person here. Feel free to go f--k yourself, you pompous, racist scum.

The KKK was created to serve as a paramilitary death squad wielding state power while giving the government plausible deniability. Its sole purpose was to murder and terrorize Black people back into subjugation as close to slavery as possible. At its height, its members were the most powerful members of society, including multiple presidents and countless governors, mayors, federal law enforcement heads, state law enforcement heads, and wealthy businesspeople. Today, the KKK remains in existence solely in the hopes of restoring an overtly anti-Black racial order.

You really have the audacity to suggest that the students protesting Israel's ongoing genocide on campuses are positioned in relation to Jews and Israelis as the KKK is to Black people?

Black history and pain are not yours to exploit as cheap talking points.

Trash.


DP. If that's all they were doing, that's protected by the First Amendment. But it isn't and you know it. The anti-Israel "protesters" are using violence to intimidate and harass Jewish students, taking over buildings, destroying property, etc... They are acting exactly like the KKK, but instead of hoods they're wearing keffiyes to conceal their identities. Same outfit, different cloth pattern.

No they are not and your diminishing the horrors the KKK did speaks volumes about who you are and it is nasty. How many people were murdered, killed, lynched, burned by the anti-Israel protestors on the campus. Zero. You cannot say the same about the KKK and similar white supremacists. Both the hateful racial mass-shootings in Charleston and Buffalo linked the shooters to these white supremacists organizations.


Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? "They are acting exactly like the KKK". The KKK concealed their identities (check), harassed people (check), destroyed property (check), etc... Are you denying these actions by current anti-Israel protesters? If so, I recommend reviewing the hours and hours of video footage from numerous news sources.


I’m not one of the PPs in this particular thread, but are you seriously comparing a group that engaged in these practices over the existence of people of color in their town with people who are opposing those committing war crimes? Like, for real?


On which college campuses are the protestors protesting the war crimes of Hamas?


The protesters don't have to protest both sides of the war equally in order to be fair to Jewish kids, so who cares whether anyone is protesting the crimes of Hamas?


Ahhh...got it and not surprised that the protestors (and you?) feel that way about Hamas.


Actually, I'm Jewish and find Hamas utterly reprehensible. But I also understand that not everyone's going to agree with me politically, and that especially on a college campus, it's absurd for the university or the government to step in and try to restrict speech. (And I also understand that while plenty of criticism of Israel does manifest itself as antisemitism, it's not inherently offensive to Jews in America to say hateful things about the government of Israel.) And I especially don't think it's good for America or for Jews if a reactionary government that's hell-bent on breaking elite institutions it sees as opposed to its policies broadly decides to use specious claims of defending Jewish people to justify its agenda.

Would love to see people protesting Hamas, though. But that isn't likely to happen, and I think we all need to just be OK with that.
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Anonymous wrote:The White House justification for all of this under the banner of antisemitism rings hallow

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/14/nx-s1-5387299/trump-white-house-antisemitism


Jews should feel insulted to be used as pawns in trumps airing of hurt feelings.
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Anonymous wrote:Every single college in the US needs to vocalize their support of Harvard. If we allow Trump to take Harvard down, they’re all going down. To be replaced by for-profit patriotic centers of learning.

The silence is deafening.






Start by making your university campus a safe-space for Jewish students; then we’ll talk.


Feeling uncomfortable — or even feeling harassed — doesn’t actually mean they’re not safe on campus. And Bill Ackman complaining about what some undergrads say about Israel is no reason to put the full force of the federal government into trying to destroy an institution. (This is just one Jewish Ivy League, non-Harvard, graduate’s opinion, but still.)


And if the presence of KKK members doing what thoae protestors did made Black students uncomfortable and/or feeling harrassed?

Black person here. Feel free to go f--k yourself, you pompous, racist scum.

The KKK was created to serve as a paramilitary death squad wielding state power while giving the government plausible deniability. Its sole purpose was to murder and terrorize Black people back into subjugation as close to slavery as possible. At its height, its members were the most powerful members of society, including multiple presidents and countless governors, mayors, federal law enforcement heads, state law enforcement heads, and wealthy businesspeople. Today, the KKK remains in existence solely in the hopes of restoring an overtly anti-Black racial order.

You really have the audacity to suggest that the students protesting Israel's ongoing genocide on campuses are positioned in relation to Jews and Israelis as the KKK is to Black people?

Black history and pain are not yours to exploit as cheap talking points.

Trash.


DP. If that's all they were doing, that's protected by the First Amendment. But it isn't and you know it. The anti-Israel "protesters" are using violence to intimidate and harass Jewish students, taking over buildings, destroying property, etc... They are acting exactly like the KKK, but instead of hoods they're wearing keffiyes to conceal their identities. Same outfit, different cloth pattern.

No they are not and your diminishing the horrors the KKK did speaks volumes about who you are and it is nasty. How many people were murdered, killed, lynched, burned by the anti-Israel protestors on the campus. Zero. You cannot say the same about the KKK and similar white supremacists. Both the hateful racial mass-shootings in Charleston and Buffalo linked the shooters to these white supremacists organizations.


Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? "They are acting exactly like the KKK". The KKK concealed their identities (check), harassed people (check), destroyed property (check), etc... Are you denying these actions by current anti-Israel protesters? If so, I recommend reviewing the hours and hours of video footage from numerous news sources.


I’m not one of the PPs in this particular thread, but are you seriously comparing a group that engaged in these practices over the existence of people of color in their town with people who are opposing those committing war crimes? Like, for real?


On which college campuses are the protestors protesting the war crimes of Hamas?


The protesters don't have to protest both sides of the war equally in order to be fair to Jewish kids, so who cares whether anyone is protesting the crimes of Hamas?


Ahhh...got it and not surprised that the protestors (and you?) feel that way about Hamas.


Actually, I'm Jewish and find Hamas utterly reprehensible. But I also understand that not everyone's going to agree with me politically, and that especially on a college campus, it's absurd for the university or the government to step in and try to restrict speech. (And I also understand that while plenty of criticism of Israel does manifest itself as antisemitism, it's not inherently offensive to Jews in America to say hateful things about the government of Israel.) And I especially don't think it's good for America or for Jews if a reactionary government that's hell-bent on breaking elite institutions it sees as opposed to its policies broadly decides to use specious claims of defending Jewish people to justify its agenda.

Would love to see people protesting Hamas, though. But that isn't likely to happen, and I think we all need to just be OK with that.


I agree with you 'til your last statement. I'm not okay with that. It indicates that the protestors are biased and don't really fault Hamas for their actions and brutality. That area of the world has been warring for centuries.
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Anonymous wrote:The White House justification for all of this under the banner of antisemitism rings hallow

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/14/nx-s1-5387299/trump-white-house-antisemitism


Jews should feel insulted to be used as pawns in trumps airing of hurt feelings.


They are being used as pawns for Zionist billionares like Adelson who funded Trump's campaign and are directing his policy.
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The reason people protest Israel more than Hamas is not because Hamas is undeserving of criticism, but because we have stronger diplomatic and financial ties with Israel.

The protests are directed at US government policy, not the foreign country/organization.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The White House justification for all of this under the banner of antisemitism rings hallow

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/14/nx-s1-5387299/trump-white-house-antisemitism


Jews should feel insulted to be used as pawns in trumps airing of hurt feelings.


They are being used as pawns for Zionist billionares like Adelson who funded Trump's campaign and are directing his policy.


I saw at a sign at protest on the Mall that said, "Don't use my Judaism as justification for your fascism." Thought is was pretty apt.
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Saw a video at UCLA, where they were not letting students use a particular entrance to a building.
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Anonymous wrote:The reason people protest Israel more than Hamas is not because Hamas is undeserving of criticism, but because we have stronger diplomatic and financial ties with Israel.

The protests are directed at US government policy, not the foreign country/organization.


That, and Israel has the upperhand.
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Anonymous wrote:The reason people protest Israel more than Hamas is not because Hamas is undeserving of criticism, but because we have stronger diplomatic and financial ties with Israel.

The protests are directed at US government policy, not the foreign country/organization.


That's quite a rationale for minimizing Hamas' evil actions and brutality.
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Anonymous wrote:The reason people protest Israel more than Hamas is not because Hamas is undeserving of criticism, but because we have stronger diplomatic and financial ties with Israel.

The protests are directed at US government policy, not the foreign country/organization.


Additionally there is no need to protest against what everyone agrees is a terrorist organization. People are protesting for the right of Palestinian people to not die indiscriminately, and for them to be provided the same international voice and freedoms as persons in Israel.
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Anonymous wrote:The reason people protest Israel more than Hamas is not because Hamas is undeserving of criticism, but because we have stronger diplomatic and financial ties with Israel.

The protests are directed at US government policy, not the foreign country/organization.


That's quite a rationale for minimizing Hamas' evil actions and brutality.


?? What sort of obligation do college students have to balance their protests according to some exogenous metric?
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