Harvard tell Trump to pound sand

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Anonymous wrote:The reason people protest Israel more than Hamas is not because Hamas is undeserving of criticism, but because we have stronger diplomatic and financial ties with Israel.

The protests are directed at US government policy, not the foreign country/organization.

That's quite a rationale for minimizing Hamas' evil actions and brutality.

?? What sort of obligation do college students have to balance their protests according to some exogenous metric?

No obligation at all. Just calling out the hypocrisy of basically being silent about Hamas. But that's your belief, so ok.

It’s not actually hypocritical; tragically, at this point, the IDF has killed or injured far, far more Palestinians than Hamas has killed or injured Israelis.

The men in that area of the world have been at war for centuries. There are no good guys. It's just tragic for the women and children.

The sayings of an ignoramus. Go read some history books

Seriously? When was there peace there?

When the Palestinians had Jews in camps. oops. Inconvenient narrative.

Between 1946 and 1948, the British government detained over 50,000 Holocaust survivors in camps on Cyprus to prevent illegal immigration to Palestine. The British government created the camps as part of its response to the Zionist movement's Ha'apala, or Aliya Bet, campaign, which organized illegal immigration to Palestine. Many of the detainees had fled from the Soviet Union or Eastern Europe with the help of the underground Brihah movement, which moved Jews from camps to Mediterranean ports where ships would take them to Palestine.

In July 1947, 4,500 Jewish refugees from Germany boarded the Exodus 1947 and attempted to sail to Palestine without permission to land. The British intercepted the ship off the coast of Palestine and forced it to anchor in Haifa, where British soldiers removed the refugees. The British then returned the refugees to DP camps in Germany after failing to force France to accept them. The Exodus became a symbol of the struggle for open immigration to Palestine, and the fate of the Holocaust survivors became an important international symbol of the Jewish struggle for a homeland.

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Anonymous wrote:Every single college in the US needs to vocalize their support of Harvard. If we allow Trump to take Harvard down, they’re all going down. To be replaced by for-profit patriotic centers of learning.

The silence is deafening.

Start by making your university campus a safe-space for Jewish students; then we’ll talk.

Feeling uncomfortable — or even feeling harassed — doesn’t actually mean they’re not safe on campus. And Bill Ackman complaining about what some undergrads say about Israel is no reason to put the full force of the federal government into trying to destroy an institution. (This is just one Jewish Ivy League, non-Harvard, graduate’s opinion, but still.)

And if the presence of KKK members doing what thoae protestors did made Black students uncomfortable and/or feeling harrassed?

Black person here. Feel free to go f--k yourself, you pompous, racist scum.

The KKK was created to serve as a paramilitary death squad wielding state power while giving the government plausible deniability. Its sole purpose was to murder and terrorize Black people back into subjugation as close to slavery as possible. At its height, its members were the most powerful members of society, including multiple presidents and countless governors, mayors, federal law enforcement heads, state law enforcement heads, and wealthy businesspeople. Today, the KKK remains in existence solely in the hopes of restoring an overtly anti-Black racial order.

You really have the audacity to suggest that the students protesting Israel's ongoing genocide on campuses are positioned in relation to Jews and Israelis as the KKK is to Black people?

Black history and pain are not yours to exploit as cheap talking points.

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DP. If that's all they were doing, that's protected by the First Amendment. But it isn't and you know it. The anti-Israel "protesters" are using violence to intimidate and harass Jewish students, taking over buildings, destroying property, etc... They are acting exactly like the KKK, but instead of hoods they're wearing keffiyes to conceal their identities. Same outfit, different cloth pattern.

No they are not and your diminishing the horrors the KKK did speaks volumes about who you are and it is nasty. How many people were murdered, killed, lynched, burned by the anti-Israel protestors on the campus. Zero. You cannot say the same about the KKK and similar white supremacists. Both the hateful racial mass-shootings in Charleston and Buffalo linked the shooters to these white supremacists organizations.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? "They are acting exactly like the KKK". The KKK concealed their identities (check), harassed people (check), destroyed property (check), etc... Are you denying these actions by current anti-Israel protesters? If so, I recommend reviewing the hours and hours of video footage from numerous news sources.

I’m not one of the PPs in this particular thread, but are you seriously comparing a group that engaged in these practices over the existence of people of color in their town with people who are opposing those committing war crimes? Like, for real?

On which college campuses are the protestors protesting the war crimes of Hamas?

The protesters don't have to protest both sides of the war equally in order to be fair to Jewish kids, so who cares whether anyone is protesting the crimes of Hamas?

Ahhh...got it and not surprised that the protestors (and you?) feel that way about Hamas.

Actually, I'm Jewish and find Hamas utterly reprehensible. But I also understand that not everyone's going to agree with me politically, and that especially on a college campus, it's absurd for the university or the government to step in and try to restrict speech. (And I also understand that while plenty of criticism of Israel does manifest itself as antisemitism, it's not inherently offensive to Jews in America to say hateful things about the government of Israel.) And I especially don't think it's good for America or for Jews if a reactionary government that's hell-bent on breaking elite institutions it sees as opposed to its policies broadly decides to use specious claims of defending Jewish people to justify its agenda.

Would love to see people protesting Hamas, though. But that isn't likely to happen, and I think we all need to just be OK with that.

From The Times of Israel -

“For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Most of the time, Israeli policy was to treat the Palestinian Authority as a burden and Hamas as an asset. Far-right MK Bezalel Smotrich, now the finance minister in the hardline government and leader of the Religious Zionism party, said so himself in 2015.”

Now that this has backfired Netanyahu has proceeded to just wipe out the population.

As for Hamas it should be up to the Islamic Middle Eastern Countries to get rid of them. Qatar, one of Trump’s new BFF, has given Hamas billions. They need to clean up their mess.

Right now we are seeing graphic videos and photos showing children painfully slowly dying of starvation. We see the whole area bombed out and all of the bodies have still not been recovered from the rubble. About 55,000 Palestinians have been killed so far. Israel bombs shelters with the same claims over and over, that there was a Hamas leader in the family shelter. The 60 or so family members didn’t matter. So you can understand why the focus is on the war crimes of Israel.



https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

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Anonymous wrote:Every single college in the US needs to vocalize their support of Harvard. If we allow Trump to take Harvard down, they’re all going down. To be replaced by for-profit patriotic centers of learning.

The silence is deafening.

Start by making your university campus a safe-space for Jewish students; then we’ll talk.

Feeling uncomfortable — or even feeling harassed — doesn’t actually mean they’re not safe on campus. And Bill Ackman complaining about what some undergrads say about Israel is no reason to put the full force of the federal government into trying to destroy an institution. (This is just one Jewish Ivy League, non-Harvard, graduate’s opinion, but still.)

And if the presence of KKK members doing what thoae protestors did made Black students uncomfortable and/or feeling harrassed?

Black person here. Feel free to go f--k yourself, you pompous, racist scum.

The KKK was created to serve as a paramilitary death squad wielding state power while giving the government plausible deniability. Its sole purpose was to murder and terrorize Black people back into subjugation as close to slavery as possible. At its height, its members were the most powerful members of society, including multiple presidents and countless governors, mayors, federal law enforcement heads, state law enforcement heads, and wealthy businesspeople. Today, the KKK remains in existence solely in the hopes of restoring an overtly anti-Black racial order.

You really have the audacity to suggest that the students protesting Israel's ongoing genocide on campuses are positioned in relation to Jews and Israelis as the KKK is to Black people?

Black history and pain are not yours to exploit as cheap talking points.

Trash.

DP. If that's all they were doing, that's protected by the First Amendment. But it isn't and you know it. The anti-Israel "protesters" are using violence to intimidate and harass Jewish students, taking over buildings, destroying property, etc... They are acting exactly like the KKK, but instead of hoods they're wearing keffiyes to conceal their identities. Same outfit, different cloth pattern.

No they are not and your diminishing the horrors the KKK did speaks volumes about who you are and it is nasty. How many people were murdered, killed, lynched, burned by the anti-Israel protestors on the campus. Zero. You cannot say the same about the KKK and similar white supremacists. Both the hateful racial mass-shootings in Charleston and Buffalo linked the shooters to these white supremacists organizations.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? "They are acting exactly like the KKK". The KKK concealed their identities (check), harassed people (check), destroyed property (check), etc... Are you denying these actions by current anti-Israel protesters? If so, I recommend reviewing the hours and hours of video footage from numerous news sources.

I’m not one of the PPs in this particular thread, but are you seriously comparing a group that engaged in these practices over the existence of people of color in their town with people who are opposing those committing war crimes? Like, for real?

On which college campuses are the protestors protesting the war crimes of Hamas?

Per the thread, this was about the tactics of anti-Israel protesters and the KKK.