Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:The war will end when Russia is crushed and Putin is removed from power. We must give them whatever they need to do so. Anything else will just prolong Putin’s aggression toward Ukraine or other states. There is no appeasement, there is no way for a truce.


You are very naive if you think that it is one person war. There is a huge conglomerate behind Putin that will continue his work. Additionally, Putin can remain in power for another 15 years.


Russia is moving toward a civil war each day. First individual soldiers will stop following orders, (2) next whole units will refuse orders or join the other side, (3)next units will turn on other units and (4)finally it’s a civil war. Right now we are between 2 and 3. Russia has a history of this.


So wish this was true but I really do not see it happening this way.

Some Russian leader was quoted as saying something to the effect of “because we look like you; you assume we think like you” - referring to white Europeans and the west. I am sure someone can figure out this quote - whomever said it.

But Russians are not wired like us; they have no ambition or drive for freedom or liberty- like they missed that gene in the human DNA. It simply does not exist.

Unfortunately for the world; the Ukrainians labeling them “orcs” fits very well.


The West has never considered Russians fully white, or indeed, fully human.

This is why you never see any discussion at all about the horrors of Nazi occupation in the USSR. These victims don't really count. When they are brought up, it's always with a qualification that somehow makes it less real, or less horrible, or less attributable to Germany.


I don't know why it's not taught in US schools, but it was Stalin's holodomor in 1932-33 that was the inspiration for Hitler's holocaust. The Nazi's got more press since they used high-tech concentration camps instead of just sending people off to Siberia.
https://holodomor.ca/resource/holodomor-basic-facts/#:~:text=The%20term%20Holodomor%20(death%20by,peasantry%2C%20who%20resisted%20Soviet%20policies.

The Russians need to admit that Stalin was the original source.


Ask Georgia lol.
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Anonymous wrote:Yawn https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/nine-historical-archives-that-will-spill-new-secrets-966931/


Yawn. You didn't even read the article that you posted. None of the three WW2 examples were from the US.

The three, by the way, were 1) UK records about Rudolph Hess' flight to the UK 2) UK records about a ship of Jewish refugees and 3) Canadian records of the names of Canadians that helped the UK with some radars.

By the way, some of the US WW2 records that were delayed, but have since been released, were about Russian soldiers raping everything that moved.

Meanwhile in Russia, this story is classified: https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/goat-of-kyiv-leaves-40-russians-injured-after-setting-off-grenade-booby-trap/

What a country!



Lol honey the Red Army was drafted from the whole USSR, not just Russia. So if you believe the rape of Berlin legend, then you ought to know there would definitely be at least some Ukrainians in the dick squad.


A huge constituent of the Soviet Red Army fighting against the Nazis were Ukrainians and to this day Russia takes credit for a lot of Soviet victories that were actually fought by Ukrainians.


The Red Army was multi-ethnic, as was the entire USSR. But I say if Russians are getting the sole blame for “the rape of Berlin”, then it’s fair they are getting the sole credit for the great victories.
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Anonymous wrote:Plus, people are people wherever you go. Don't accept this dehumanizing rhetoric.

I will be a single issue voter for the candidate who wants to get to the negotiating table.


And what do negotiations look like? Ukraine gives up some land?

I mean ultimately Russia won’t be content with that and you know it.

That or your a propaganda bot or paid poster preaching to the choir here, those being the avid Fox news readers here who probably already agree with your “peace” and have a proclivity towards Putin’s brand of authoritarian Christian nationalism anyway.

Honestly, Russia should get the fk out of Ukraine. That’s really the just thing.


Nope, just a normal mom in MD who doesn't like how many wars our country funds and supports. Pro choice, pro gay rights, and completely non-religious, actually.

And yes, frankly I don't care if Ukraine gives up land so that the rest of the world can back away from the existential threat of nuclear war. Biden said we are closer to nuclear war than any time since the cuban missle crisis. I want politicians who use non-violent diplomacy to keep the world intact.
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Anonymous wrote:Plus, people are people wherever you go. Don't accept this dehumanizing rhetoric.

I will be a single issue voter for the candidate who wants to get to the negotiating table.


And what do negotiations look like? Ukraine gives up some land?

I mean ultimately Russia won’t be content with that and you know it.

That or your a propaganda bot or paid poster preaching to the choir here, those being the avid Fox news readers here who probably already agree with your “peace” and have a proclivity towards Putin’s brand of authoritarian Christian nationalism anyway.

Honestly, Russia should get the fk out of Ukraine. That’s really the just thing.


Nope, just a normal mom in MD who doesn't like how many wars our country funds and supports. Pro choice, pro gay rights, and completely non-religious, actually.

And yes, frankly I don't care if Ukraine gives up land so that the rest of the world can back away from the existential threat of nuclear war. Biden said we are closer to nuclear war than any time since the cuban missle crisis. I want politicians who use non-violent diplomacy to keep the world intact.


You should stick to parenting and l leave geopolitics to the pros. Then again you’re probably really a bot or paid poster, so you should stop.

America does not abandon its European allies. Russia out of Ukraine.
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Ukraine is a pro bono client, not an ally.
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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine is a pro bono client, not an ally.

More like on retainer. Just look at the "jobs" so many connected families had with Ukrainian companies a few years back.
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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine is a pro bono client, not an ally.

More like on retainer. Just look at the "jobs" so many connected families had with Ukrainian companies a few years back.


lol at the propaganda effort in this thread. Or the Fox News induced idiocy. Not sure which is which.
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Anonymous wrote:Plus, people are people wherever you go. Don't accept this dehumanizing rhetoric.

I will be a single issue voter for the candidate who wants to get to the negotiating table.


And what do negotiations look like? Ukraine gives up some land?

I mean ultimately Russia won’t be content with that and you know it.

That or your a propaganda bot or paid poster preaching to the choir here, those being the avid Fox news readers here who probably already agree with your “peace” and have a proclivity towards Putin’s brand of authoritarian Christian nationalism anyway.

Honestly, Russia should get the fk out of Ukraine. That’s really the just thing.


Nope, just a normal mom in MD who doesn't like how many wars our country funds and supports. Pro choice, pro gay rights, and completely non-religious, actually.

And yes, frankly I don't care if Ukraine gives up land so that the rest of the world can back away from the existential threat of nuclear war. Biden said we are closer to nuclear war than any time since the cuban missle crisis. I want politicians who use non-violent diplomacy to keep the world intact.


You should stick to parenting and l leave geopolitics to the pros. Then again you’re probably really a bot or paid poster, so you should stop.

America does not abandon its European allies. Russia out of Ukraine.


I'm really thankful people like you support the Ukraine.
Anonymous
Ukrainian people are great! Not their mafia corrupt leadership.

Let’s give peace to the people, not war.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ukrainian people are great! Not their mafia corrupt leadership.

Let’s give peace to the people, not war.


Explain what peace looks like.

Explain exactly what it looks like.

It’s clear you think it means that Ukraine, “who are Russian speaking people anyway” and “they probably wouldn’t mind anyway” giving up land and being annexed to Russia. You know that’s right and it’s a fking bum deal for the Ukrainians.

Stop bastardiizing the meaning of “peace”.

Just say what you really mean.

That Ukraine should just acquiesce to this mistreatment by a bunch of drunken invaders.

Stop beating around the bush. It’s an insult to those reading. Then again you are getting paid to write this crap or you are programmed to do it.
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Anonymous wrote:Ukrainian people are great! Not their mafia corrupt leadership.

Let’s give peace to the people, not war.


Explain what peace looks like.

Explain exactly what it looks like.

It’s clear you think it means that Ukraine, “who are Russian speaking people anyway” and “they probably wouldn’t mind anyway” giving up land and being annexed to Russia. You know that’s right and it’s a fking bum deal for the Ukrainians.

Stop bastardiizing the meaning of “peace”.

Just say what you really mean.

That Ukraine should just acquiesce to this mistreatment by a bunch of drunken invaders.

Stop beating around the bush. It’s an insult to those reading. Then again you are getting paid to write this crap or you are programmed to do it.


Give the east to Russia. Let the rest join EU and Zelensky can sell it to black rock. Done.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Plus, people are people wherever you go. Don't accept this dehumanizing rhetoric.

I will be a single issue voter for the candidate who wants to get to the negotiating table.


And what do negotiations look like? Ukraine gives up some land?

I mean ultimately Russia won’t be content with that and you know it.

That or your a propaganda bot or paid poster preaching to the choir here, those being the avid Fox news readers here who probably already agree with your “peace” and have a proclivity towards Putin’s brand of authoritarian Christian nationalism anyway.

Honestly, Russia should get the fk out of Ukraine. That’s really the just thing.


Nope, just a normal mom in MD who doesn't like how many wars our country funds and supports. Pro choice, pro gay rights, and completely non-religious, actually.

And yes, frankly I don't care if Ukraine gives up land so that the rest of the world can back away from the existential threat of nuclear war. Biden said we are closer to nuclear war than any time since the cuban missle crisis. I want politicians who use non-violent diplomacy to keep the world intact.


In other words, you would have told the allies to back off when the Nazis invaded Czechoslovakia. Ok.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Plus, people are people wherever you go. Don't accept this dehumanizing rhetoric.

I will be a single issue voter for the candidate who wants to get to the negotiating table.


And what do negotiations look like? Ukraine gives up some land?

I mean ultimately Russia won’t be content with that and you know it.

That or your a propaganda bot or paid poster preaching to the choir here, those being the avid Fox news readers here who probably already agree with your “peace” and have a proclivity towards Putin’s brand of authoritarian Christian nationalism anyway.

Honestly, Russia should get the fk out of Ukraine. That’s really the just thing.


Nope, just a normal mom in MD who doesn't like how many wars our country funds and supports. Pro choice, pro gay rights, and completely non-religious, actually.

And yes, frankly I don't care if Ukraine gives up land so that the rest of the world can back away from the existential threat of nuclear war. Biden said we are closer to nuclear war than any time since the cuban missle crisis. I want politicians who use non-violent diplomacy to keep the world intact.


In other words, you would have told the allies to back off when the Nazis invaded Czechoslovakia. Ok.


If the Nazis invaded ONLY Czechoslovakia, no one in the U.S. would have even noticed, and there wouldn't be any such thing as allies.
Anonymous
Hey, this is America. I get a vote and have free speech. I can weigh in on geopolitics just like the next person.

Don't need warmongering "pros" to maintain wars for me, thanks.
Anonymous
Ukraine is doomed. This is just like Israel and Palestine, except Russia isn’t Americas ally so we don’t take their side. Many politicians and people in power in this country have dual Israeli citizenship…..so a blind eye is turned to the eradication of Palestine and ongoing illegal settlements. Yet Ukraine is supported (their leader is also Jewish)

In 50 years there will only be Russians and Israelis. No more Palestinians or Ukrainians
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