Harvard tell Trump to pound sand

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Is this some kind of joke?

NO ONE believes the Ivies or most of the T50 are “institutions of free thought” anymore.

I know plenty of trumpers with kids in college right now. None of them want trump wasting our time and energy with this attack on Harvard and other universities. They hate migrants. They hate immigrants. They're not too fond of dark-skinned people. But they are not interested in doing battle with Harvard University and higher education . Not at all. I don't think they get why he focuses on this of all things.

This is just useless destruction. Harvard in higher education is wounded but come out the other side and go on long after Trump is gone.

Agree that it is just useless destruction.

Trump wants to demonstrate the power that he, as the autocrat US, has.

And Harvard has done something to injure his fragile ego, so he wants retribution.

This, apparently, is what the country voted for -- experiencing Trump's narcissistic rages on a national scale.

Hopefully the nation's universities have a strategy in place to counter this stupidity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Is this some kind of joke?

NO ONE believes the Ivies or most of the T50 are “institutions of free thought” anymore.

I know plenty of trumpers with kids in college right now. None of them want trump wasting our time and energy with this attack on Harvard and other universities. They hate migrants. They hate immigrants. They're not too fond of dark-skinned people. But they are not interested in doing battle with Harvard University and higher education . Not at all. I don't think they get why he focuses on this of all things.

This is just useless destruction. Harvard in higher education is wounded but come out the other side and go on long after Trump is gone.

Agree that it is just useless destruction.

Trump wants to demonstrate the power that he, as the autocrat US, has.

And Harvard has done something to injure his fragile ego, so he wants retribution.

This, apparently, is what the country voted for -- experiencing Trump's narcissistic rages on a national scale.

Hopefully the nation's universities have a strategy in place to counter this stupidity.

Hopefully the courts do their job. Seems like we can expect laws to be upheld at the district and appeals level. The Supreme Court, though, has lost the thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares about Harvard

And Trump knows how to separate voters from the Democrats

Unfortunately the optics of wealthy universities with huge endowments getting Federal funding for anything other than student aid looks bad to working and middle class Americans.

Federal funding produces this: https://www.nature.com/nature-index/institution-outputs/generate/all/global/all

With Harvard knee-capped, China rules.

Great we don't have to fund the research or teach the foreigners English in our classes. Let the businesses go and get their students and sponsor a green card directly then do a genuine PERM or LCA search to prove they can't find it here. Instead of bringing them here then having us train them let them do an internship or three. Oh, but now they can't find the talent. Meanwhile all of our classmates and coworkers are annoying even for the least racist of us.

BTW have you actually ever read any of those Chinese journal articles? I was reviewing one. I went and did a Google search to see if they had all of the references. The authors had already published nearly the exact same paper. Like the abstract and the first two pages were exactly the same. Same authors in a different order.

IMO that is the real problem with the Chinese education system. Its portfolio based instead of standardized testing based, so they can just use the same publications and portfolios over and over again. That's what I thought when I heard the Ivies were trying to get away from standardized testing.

So stupid. Are there hack scientists in China? yes. Are there hack scientists in the US? yes.

but China is investing in research. They have doubled their budget. The Trump administration has stopped ALL research at our premier research university, not just that done by forgeiners. Gee. Gosh. What will be the result, especially considering that China has a disciplined population of 1.4 billion while the US has a very undereducated very undisciplined population of 0.3 billion.

so, ya, right... stopping ALL research at Harvard is definitely the way to go (not!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares about Harvard

And Trump knows how to separate voters from the Democrats

Unfortunately the optics of wealthy universities with huge endowments getting Federal funding for anything other than student aid looks bad to working and middle class Americans.

Federal funding produces this: https://www.nature.com/nature-index/institution-outputs/generate/all/global/all

With Harvard knee-capped, China rules.

Great we don't have to fund the research or teach the foreigners English in our classes. Let the businesses go and get their students and sponsor a green card directly then do a genuine PERM or LCA search to prove they can't find it here. Instead of bringing them here then having us train them let them do an internship or three. Oh, but now they can't find the talent. Meanwhile all of our classmates and coworkers are annoying even for the least racist of us.

BTW have you actually ever read any of those Chinese journal articles? I was reviewing one. I went and did a Google search to see if they had all of the references. The authors had already published nearly the exact same paper. Like the abstract and the first two pages were exactly the same. Same authors in a different order.

IMO that is the real problem with the Chinese education system. Its portfolio based instead of standardized testing based, so they can just use the same publications and portfolios over and over again. That's what I thought when I heard the Ivies were trying to get away from standardized testing.

So stupid. Are there hack scientists in China? yes. Are there hack scientists in the US? yes.

but China is investing in research. They have doubled their budget. The Trump administration has stopped ALL research at our premier research university, not just that done by forgeiners. Gee. Gosh. What will be the result, especially considering that China has a disciplined population of 1.4 billion while the US has a very undereducated very undisciplined population of 0.3 billion.

so, ya, right... stopping ALL research at Harvard is definitely the way to go (not!)

You think it's a problem, but you don't like the solution. If you're concerned with a disparity in research, then we shouldn't be funding their researchers or students on Visas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares about Harvard

And Trump knows how to separate voters from the Democrats

Unfortunately the optics of wealthy universities with huge endowments getting Federal funding for anything other than student aid looks bad to working and middle class Americans.

Federal funding produces this: https://www.nature.com/nature-index/institution-outputs/generate/all/global/all

With Harvard knee-capped, China rules.

Great we don't have to fund the research or teach the foreigners English in our classes. Let the businesses go and get their students and sponsor a green card directly then do a genuine PERM or LCA search to prove they can't find it here. Instead of bringing them here then having us train them let them do an internship or three. Oh, but now they can't find the talent. Meanwhile all of our classmates and coworkers are annoying even for the least racist of us.

BTW have you actually ever read any of those Chinese journal articles? I was reviewing one. I went and did a Google search to see if they had all of the references. The authors had already published nearly the exact same paper. Like the abstract and the first two pages were exactly the same. Same authors in a different order.

IMO that is the real problem with the Chinese education system. Its portfolio based instead of standardized testing based, so they can just use the same publications and portfolios over and over again. That's what I thought when I heard the Ivies were trying to get away from standardized testing.

So stupid. Are there hack scientists in China? yes. Are there hack scientists in the US? yes.

but China is investing in research. They have doubled their budget. The Trump administration has stopped ALL research at our premier research university, not just that done by forgeiners. Gee. Gosh. What will be the result, especially considering that China has a disciplined population of 1.4 billion while the US has a very undereducated very undisciplined population of 0.3 billion.

so, ya, right... stopping ALL research at Harvard is definitely the way to go (not!)

You think it's a problem, but you don't like the solution. If you're concerned with a disparity in research, then we shouldn't be funding their researchers or students on Visas.

Can you read? How will our nation ever move forward if people cannot even read.

Or do you seriously mean the problem with too many forgien researchers in the US is to stop ALL research at Harvard? Is that how stupid your mind is?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Is this some kind of joke?

NO ONE believes the Ivies or most of the T50 are “institutions of free thought” anymore.

I know plenty of trumpers with kids in college right now. None of them want trump wasting our time and energy with this attack on Harvard and other universities. They hate migrants. They hate immigrants. They're not too fond of dark-skinned people. But they are not interested in doing battle with Harvard University and higher education . Not at all. I don't think they get why he focuses on this of all things.

This is just useless destruction. Harvard in higher education is wounded but come out the other side and go on long after Trump is gone.

I'm not too fond of dark-skinned people and all the reverse racism they like to practice constantly.

[Anonymous]

To all the people who think we should be exporting more and importing less, you are fools if you do not understand that higher education is -- or was until this month -- one of the US's greatest and most consistent exports.

[Anonymous]

What am I missing here? It sounds like Harvard has taken meaningful steps against antisemitism. It also sounds like there are far worse alleged offenders, ranging from elite schools, mediocre ones, and third tier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To all the people who think we should be exporting more and importing less, you are fools if you do not understand that higher education is -- or was until this month -- one of the US's greatest and most consistent exports.

Exporting education is consistent with competition. Let's train our competitors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares about Harvard

And Trump knows how to separate voters from the Democrats

Unfortunately the optics of wealthy universities with huge endowments getting Federal funding for anything other than student aid looks bad to working and middle class Americans.

Federal funding produces this: https://www.nature.com/nature-index/institution-outputs/generate/all/global/all

With Harvard knee-capped, China rules.

Great we don't have to fund the research or teach the foreigners English in our classes. Let the businesses go and get their students and sponsor a green card directly then do a genuine PERM or LCA search to prove they can't find it here. Instead of bringing them here then having us train them let them do an internship or three. Oh, but now they can't find the talent. Meanwhile all of our classmates and coworkers are annoying even for the least racist of us.

BTW have you actually ever read any of those Chinese journal articles? I was reviewing one. I went and did a Google search to see if they had all of the references. The authors had already published nearly the exact same paper. Like the abstract and the first two pages were exactly the same. Same authors in a different order.

IMO that is the real problem with the Chinese education system. Its portfolio based instead of standardized testing based, so they can just use the same publications and portfolios over and over again. That's what I thought when I heard the Ivies were trying to get away from standardized testing.

So stupid. Are there hack scientists in China? yes. Are there hack scientists in the US? yes.

but China is investing in research. They have doubled their budget. The Trump administration has stopped ALL research at our premier research university, not just that done by forgeiners. Gee. Gosh. What will be the result, especially considering that China has a disciplined population of 1.4 billion while the US has a very undereducated very undisciplined population of 0.3 billion.

so, ya, right... stopping ALL research at Harvard is definitely the way to go (not!)

China doesn't research. They just steal everthing from others.

The fact that they have a patent office to protect intellectual property is (patently) absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Is this some kind of joke?

NO ONE believes the Ivies or most of the T50 are “institutions of free thought” anymore.

I know plenty of trumpers with kids in college right now. None of them want trump wasting our time and energy with this attack on Harvard and other universities. They hate migrants. They hate immigrants. They're not too fond of dark-skinned people. But they are not interested in doing battle with Harvard University and higher education . Not at all. I don't think they get why he focuses on this of all things.

This is just useless destruction. Harvard in higher education is wounded but come out the other side and go on long after Trump is gone.

Agree that it is just useless destruction.

Trump wants to demonstrate the power that he, as the autocrat US, has.

And Harvard has done something to injure his fragile ego, so he wants retribution.

This, apparently, is what the country voted for -- experiencing Trump's narcissistic rages on a national scale.

Hopefully the nation's universities have a strategy in place to counter this stupidity.

Gee it’d be nice if anyone in Congress or his administration had a strategy for dealing with him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Is this some kind of joke?

NO ONE believes the Ivies or most of the T50 are “institutions of free thought” anymore.

I know plenty of trumpers with kids in college right now. None of them want trump wasting our time and energy with this attack on Harvard and other universities. They hate migrants. They hate immigrants. They're not too fond of dark-skinned people. But they are not interested in doing battle with Harvard University and higher education . Not at all. I don't think they get why he focuses on this of all things.

This is just useless destruction. Harvard in higher education is wounded but come out the other side and go on long after Trump is gone.

Agree that it is just useless destruction.

Trump wants to demonstrate the power that he, as the autocrat US, has.

And Harvard has done something to injure his fragile ego, so he wants retribution.

This, apparently, is what the country voted for -- experiencing Trump's narcissistic rages on a national scale.

And worse it’s a huge waste of tax payer time and money that is bound to result in judges ruling in Harvard’s favor. Why? Because this is the definition of targeting without cause and evidence. DOJ lawyers are going to ruin their careers as they keep appearing before judges looking like idiots with no real evidence or case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not JUST about Harvard. He is attacking academic institutions in general, the war just happened to start with Harvard. All fascists attack institutions of free thought and eduction and then replace them with their own version.

Is this some kind of joke?

NO ONE believes the Ivies or most of the T50 are “institutions of free thought” anymore.

I know plenty of trumpers with kids in college right now. None of them want trump wasting our time and energy with this attack on Harvard and other universities. They hate migrants. They hate immigrants. They're not too fond of dark-skinned people. But they are not interested in doing battle with Harvard University and higher education . Not at all. I don't think they get why he focuses on this of all things.

This is just useless destruction. Harvard in higher education is wounded but come out the other side and go on long after Trump is gone.

Harvard must honestly and deeply embrace diversity; meaning: diversity of political opinion.

The overwhelming majority of Harvard professors and administrators are firmly on the left, with many on the far-left. They have also migrated toward antisemitism or acceptance of antisemitism at Harvard.

Acceptance of diversity of political opinion is Harvard’s only path forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What am I missing here? It sounds like Harvard has taken meaningful steps against antisemitism. It also sounds like there are far worse alleged offenders, ranging from elite schools, mediocre ones, and third tier.

They rejected Barron.

[Anonymous]

Can we talk about the admitted Harvard elites that need remedial math classes?

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/9/3/new-math-intro-course/

Then there is the recently fired female Harvard professor.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/5/27/gino-tenure-revoked/

Maybe this is why Harvard fell behind Princeton and MIT. I bet they fall behind Stanford and Yale after this year.