Field hockey clubs feedback

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Anonymous wrote:What I'm curious to know: Were those visiting South African players that H used in NITQ registered with USA field hockey? If not, that was so wrong--taking a spot in Nationals away from some other team.

Honestly does it matter at this point? Hustle isn’t a club anymore and NITs are over.

Will it change anything- obviously, no. But if that is what that club did, then shame on them and they deserved what happened to them.

Hey let’s all be careful here. There are young girls involved, and they had no choice /involvement in the matter. Guesting South African players was a choice the club director likely chose…Not the team/girls. These girls did not “deserve” anything. They were just playing the game they love, and working hard. They would have made NIT either way. Saw this group play at NIT and it was a talented group.

Nobody “deserves” anything. Let’s keep it kind and humane here. This is a sport, not a war zone.

The results at NIT, without the internationals, tells a different story.
Maybe they would have qualified, maybe not.
Obviously, the club director had doubts.

Don't be an a$$hole. Their results weren't that diff from a lot of local clubs. And these girls worked their butts off. The club that the Arlington Coach funneled people to didn't do that great, either.

For U19, yes we did. They won their bracket and played in the A pool. H came in 3rd of 4 teams in their bracket and then in last place in the C pool. Big difference

You keep trying to paint H as the same issues as other clubs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The people who are analyzing players, other parents, and team results are the reason youth sports has become the way it is vs a healthy environment for girls to thrive and learn life lessons, etc.

So sad. Look at the example you are to your children!

I came to this site to learn about the different clubs and their coaches environment etc. what I see is negativity and calling out young ladies for this and that. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Knowledge is power. We need all of the information to make the best decisions for our DDs. If you don’t like it then scram. Nobody is calling out individual players. The clubs and their owners/managers/coaches are fair game especially when they are up to no good. While this forum does tend to focus on the negative in the DMV, maybe that’s because there are have been so many shenanigans in recent years.

Needing info on a club (that no longer exists) … and speculating on their results (w or w/o certain players) does not help with anything. You are just spreading ill will.

Also, if you think certain types of people are “fair game” to bash behind a keyboard, then we would all like to know what club you are at and who you are … so we know to stay away. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What I'm curious to know: Were those visiting South African players that H used in NITQ registered with USA field hockey? If not, that was so wrong--taking a spot in Nationals away from some other team.

Honestly does it matter at this point? Hustle isn’t a club anymore and NITs are over.

Will it change anything- obviously, no. But if that is what that club did, then shame on them and they deserved what happened to them.

Hey let’s all be careful here. There are young girls involved, and they had no choice /involvement in the matter. Guesting South African players was a choice the club director likely chose…Not the team/girls. These girls did not “deserve” anything. They were just playing the game they love, and working hard. They would have made NIT either way. Saw this group play at NIT and it was a talented group.

Nobody “deserves” anything. Let’s keep it kind and humane here. This is a sport, not a war zone.

The results at NIT, without the internationals, tells a different story.
Maybe they would have qualified, maybe not.
Obviously, the club director had doubts.

Don't be an a$$hole. Their results weren't that diff from a lot of local clubs. And these girls worked their butts off. The club that the Arlington Coach funneled people to didn't do that great, either.

For U19, yes we did. They won their bracket and played in the A pool. H came in 3rd of 4 teams in their bracket and then in last place in the C pool. Big difference

You keep trying to paint H as the same issues as other clubs.

You should both stop because neither of you are contributing anything positive. Hustle doesn’t exist anymore. People need to move on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The people who are analyzing players, other parents, and team results are the reason youth sports has become the way it is vs a healthy environment for girls to thrive and learn life lessons, etc.

So sad. Look at the example you are to your children!

I came to this site to learn about the different clubs and their coaches environment etc. what I see is negativity and calling out young ladies for this and that. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Knowledge is power. We need all of the information to make the best decisions for our DDs. If you don’t like it then scram. Nobody is calling out individual players. The clubs and their owners/managers/coaches are fair game especially when they are up to no good. While this forum does tend to focus on the negative in the DMV, maybe that’s because there are have been so many shenanigans in recent years.

Needing info on a club (that no longer exists) … and speculating on their results (w or w/o certain players) does not help with anything. You are just spreading ill will.

Also, if you think certain types of people are “fair game” to bash behind a keyboard, then we would all like to know what club you are at and who you are … so we know to stay away. Thanks!

People…this forum is about information, good and bad. When a club owner disbands the club (i.e. profitable business), the why becomes very important. It seems there are plenty of PPs defending the situation, but it sounds like someone cheated and got caught. I don’t know and we’ll probably never get the true story. I’m not rooting against the club, or the owner, but this info coming to light on this forum is the EXACT purpose of this forum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What I'm curious to know: Were those visiting South African players that H used in NITQ registered with USA field hockey? If not, that was so wrong--taking a spot in Nationals away from some other team.

Honestly does it matter at this point? Hustle isn’t a club anymore and NITs are over.

Will it change anything- obviously, no. But if that is what that club did, then shame on them and they deserved what happened to them.

Hey let’s all be careful here. There are young girls involved, and they had no choice /involvement in the matter. Guesting South African players was a choice the club director likely chose…Not the team/girls. These girls did not “deserve” anything. They were just playing the game they love, and working hard. They would have made NIT either way. Saw this group play at NIT and it was a talented group.

Nobody “deserves” anything. Let’s keep it kind and humane here. This is a sport, not a war zone.

The results at NIT, without the internationals, tells a different story.
Maybe they would have qualified, maybe not.
Obviously, the club director had doubts.

Don't be an a$$hole. Their results weren't that diff from a lot of local clubs. And these girls worked their butts off. The club that the Arlington Coach funneled people to didn't do that great, either.

For U19, yes we did. They won their bracket and played in the A pool. H came in 3rd of 4 teams in their bracket and then in last place in the C pool. Big difference

You keep trying to paint H as the same issues as other clubs.

You should both stop because neither of you are contributing anything positive. Hustle doesn’t exist anymore. People need to move on.

Gee, I wonder who posted this^

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The people who are analyzing players, other parents, and team results are the reason youth sports has become the way it is vs a healthy environment for girls to thrive and learn life lessons, etc.

So sad. Look at the example you are to your children!

I came to this site to learn about the different clubs and their coaches environment etc. what I see is negativity and calling out young ladies for this and that. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Knowledge is power. We need all of the information to make the best decisions for our DDs. If you don’t like it then scram. Nobody is calling out individual players. The clubs and their owners/managers/coaches are fair game especially when they are up to no good. While this forum does tend to focus on the negative in the DMV, maybe that’s because there are have been so many shenanigans in recent years.

Needing info on a club (that no longer exists) … and speculating on their results (w or w/o certain players) does not help with anything. You are just spreading ill will.

Also, if you think certain types of people are “fair game” to bash behind a keyboard, then we would all like to know what club you are at and who you are … so we know to stay away. Thanks!

People…this forum is about information, good and bad. When a club owner disbands the club (i.e. profitable business), the why becomes very important. It seems there are plenty of PPs defending the situation, but it sounds like someone cheated and got caught. I don’t know and we’ll probably never get the true story. I’m not rooting against the club, or the owner, but this info coming to light on this forum is the EXACT purpose of this forum.

If the club is disbanded how is discussing the good/bad of it relevant? If the owner tries to start a new club, then yes, the prior club history becomes relevant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What I'm curious to know: Were those visiting South African players that H used in NITQ registered with USA field hockey? If not, that was so wrong--taking a spot in Nationals away from some other team.

Honestly does it matter at this point? Hustle isn’t a club anymore and NITs are over.

Will it change anything- obviously, no. But if that is what that club did, then shame on them and they deserved what happened to them.

Hey let’s all be careful here. There are young girls involved, and they had no choice /involvement in the matter. Guesting South African players was a choice the club director likely chose…Not the team/girls. These girls did not “deserve” anything. They were just playing the game they love, and working hard. They would have made NIT either way. Saw this group play at NIT and it was a talented group.

Nobody “deserves” anything. Let’s keep it kind and humane here. This is a sport, not a war zone.

You're right. I just have so much animosity for that club and those parents. Most arrogant, fake people I have ever met.


The results at NIT, without the internationals, tells a different story.
Maybe they would have qualified, maybe not.
Obviously, the club director had doubts.

Don't be an a$$hole. Their results weren't that diff from a lot of local clubs. And these girls worked their butts off. The club that the Arlington Coach funneled people to didn't do that great, either.

For U19, yes we did. They won their bracket and played in the A pool. H came in 3rd of 4 teams in their bracket and then in last place in the C pool. Big difference

You keep trying to paint H as the same issues as other clubs.

You should both stop because neither of you are contributing anything positive. Hustle doesn’t exist anymore. People need to move on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I'm curious to know: Were those visiting South African players that H used in NITQ registered with USA field hockey? If not, that was so wrong--taking a spot in Nationals away from some other team.

Honestly does it matter at this point? Hustle isn’t a club anymore and NITs are over.

Will it change anything- obviously, no. But if that is what that club did, then shame on them and they deserved what happened to them.

Hey let’s all be careful here. There are young girls involved, and they had no choice /involvement in the matter. Guesting South African players was a choice the club director likely chose…Not the team/girls. These girls did not “deserve” anything. They were just playing the game they love, and working hard. They would have made NIT either way. Saw this group play at NIT and it was a talented group.

Nobody “deserves” anything. Let’s keep it kind and humane here. This is a sport, not a war zone.

You're right. I just have so much animosity for that club and those parents. Most arrogant, fake people I have ever met.


The results at NIT, without the internationals, tells a different story.
Maybe they would have qualified, maybe not.
Obviously, the club director had doubts.

Don't be an a$$hole. Their results weren't that diff from a lot of local clubs. And these girls worked their butts off. The club that the Arlington Coach funneled people to didn't do that great, either.

For U19, yes we did. They won their bracket and played in the A pool. H came in 3rd of 4 teams in their bracket and then in last place in the C pool. Big difference

You keep trying to paint H as the same issues as other clubs.

You should both stop because neither of you are contributing anything positive. Hustle doesn’t exist anymore. People need to move on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What I'm curious to know: Were those visiting South African players that H used in NITQ registered with USA field hockey? If not, that was so wrong--taking a spot in Nationals away from some other team.

Honestly does it matter at this point? Hustle isn’t a club anymore and NITs are over.

Will it change anything- obviously, no. But if that is what that club did, then shame on them and they deserved what happened to them.

Hey let’s all be careful here. There are young girls involved, and they had no choice /involvement in the matter. Guesting South African players was a choice the club director likely chose…Not the team/girls. These girls did not “deserve” anything. They were just playing the game they love, and working hard. They would have made NIT either way. Saw this group play at NIT and it was a talented group.

Nobody “deserves” anything. Let’s keep it kind and humane here. This is a sport, not a war zone.

You're right. I just have so much animosity for that club and those parents. Most arrogant, fake people I have ever met.


The results at NIT, without the internationals, tells a different story.
Maybe they would have qualified, maybe not.
Obviously, the club director had doubts.

Don't be an a$$hole. Their results weren't that diff from a lot of local clubs. And these girls worked their butts off. The club that the Arlington Coach funneled people to didn't do that great, either.

For U19, yes we did. They won their bracket and played in the A pool. H came in 3rd of 4 teams in their bracket and then in last place in the C pool. Big difference

You keep trying to paint H as the same issues as other clubs.

You should both stop because neither of you are contributing anything positive. Hustle doesn’t exist anymore. People need to move on.

You're right. I just have so much animosity for that club and those parents. Most arrogant, fake people I have ever met.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What I'm curious to know: Were those visiting South African players that H used in NITQ registered with USA field hockey? If not, that was so wrong--taking a spot in Nationals away from some other team.

Honestly does it matter at this point? Hustle isn’t a club anymore and NITs are over.

Will it change anything- obviously, no. But if that is what that club did, then shame on them and they deserved what happened to them.

Hey let’s all be careful here. There are young girls involved, and they had no choice /involvement in the matter. Guesting South African players was a choice the club director likely chose…Not the team/girls. These girls did not “deserve” anything. They were just playing the game they love, and working hard. They would have made NIT either way. Saw this group play at NIT and it was a talented group.

Nobody “deserves” anything. Let’s keep it kind and humane here. This is a sport, not a war zone.

You're right. I just have so much animosity for that club and those parents. Most arrogant, fake people I have ever met.


The results at NIT, without the internationals, tells a different story.
Maybe they would have qualified, maybe not.
Obviously, the club director had doubts.

Don't be an a$$hole. Their results weren't that diff from a lot of local clubs. And these girls worked their butts off. The club that the Arlington Coach funneled people to didn't do that great, either.

For U19, yes we did. They won their bracket and played in the A pool. H came in 3rd of 4 teams in their bracket and then in last place in the C pool. Big difference

You keep trying to paint H as the same issues as other clubs.

You should both stop because neither of you are contributing anything positive. Hustle doesn’t exist anymore. People need to move on.

You're right. I just have so much animosity for that club and those parents. Most arrogant, fake people I have ever met.

Just go to your Wolves practice, will ya?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who are analyzing players, other parents, and team results are the reason youth sports has become the way it is vs a healthy environment for girls to thrive and learn life lessons, etc.

So sad. Look at the example you are to your children!

I came to this site to learn about the different clubs and their coaches environment etc. what I see is negativity and calling out young ladies for this and that. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Knowledge is power. We need all of the information to make the best decisions for our DDs. If you don’t like it then scram. Nobody is calling out individual players. The clubs and their owners/managers/coaches are fair game especially when they are up to no good. While this forum does tend to focus on the negative in the DMV, maybe that’s because there are have been so many shenanigans in recent years.

Needing info on a club (that no longer exists) … and speculating on their results (w or w/o certain players) does not help with anything. You are just spreading ill will.

Also, if you think certain types of people are “fair game” to bash behind a keyboard, then we would all like to know what club you are at and who you are … so we know to stay away. Thanks!

People…this forum is about information, good and bad. When a club owner disbands the club (i.e. profitable business), the why becomes very important. It seems there are plenty of PPs defending the situation, but it sounds like someone cheated and got caught. I don’t know and we’ll probably never get the true story. I’m not rooting against the club, or the owner, but this info coming to light on this forum is the EXACT purpose of this forum.

First-hand knowledge is power. With that, then be honest. There was no "cheating and getting caught." There are 3-4 former families who clearly have no integrity or character. We know who you are. We've heard what you've been saying to others about former Husel and our kids (your former teammates). Rich of you to come on here and pretend otherwise.

[Anonymous]

You are all delusional if you think the reason your “DD” didn’t get recruited to play field hockey by a top D-1 program is because your club submarined you. Or gave preferential “recruiting” treatment to other players on the team. That’s not how it works. Your child must perform. They must stand out. They must be the best. They must train hard, attend camps, attend ID clinics, play club and high school (year round), get noticed at Nexus, get noticed at Line-Up, etc. If your child is good enough, college coaches will notice. If they are a star, it won’t matter what club they’re on. You people are all placing blame when the bottom line, it sounds like, is that your “DD” simply isn’t good enough. Stop deflecting and get a reality check.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are all delusional if you think the reason your “DD” didn’t get recruited to play field hockey by a top D-1 program is because your club submarined you. Or gave preferential “recruiting” treatment to other players on the team. That’s not how it works. Your child must perform. They must stand out. They must be the best. They must train hard, attend camps, attend ID clinics, play club and high school (year round), get noticed at Nexus, get noticed at Line-Up, etc. If your child is good enough, college coaches will notice. If they are a star, it won’t matter what club they’re on. You people are all placing blame when the bottom line, it sounds like, is that your “DD” simply isn’t good enough. Stop deflecting and get a reality check.

^this is 100% correct. However, in my personal opinion, you could be one of the best players on the club team but still not be a favorite and your playing time will suffer. It’s tough to shine when your not on the field and a favored player 2-3 years younger is showcased. Seen this first hand. On the opposite side of the argument, over the years Hustle has had many favorites leave because of the weird dynamic. Some players were allowed to play up, some were not and left the club. Last thing, not every kid wants to play D1. And it’s getting tougher to get commited at the D3 level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The people who are analyzing players, other parents, and team results are the reason youth sports has become the way it is vs a healthy environment for girls to thrive and learn life lessons, etc.

So sad. Look at the example you are to your children!

I came to this site to learn about the different clubs and their coaches environment etc. what I see is negativity and calling out young ladies for this and that. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Knowledge is power. We need all of the information to make the best decisions for our DDs. If you don’t like it then scram. Nobody is calling out individual players. The clubs and their owners/managers/coaches are fair game especially when they are up to no good. While this forum does tend to focus on the negative in the DMV, maybe that’s because there are have been so many shenanigans in recent years.

Needing info on a club (that no longer exists) … and speculating on their results (w or w/o certain players) does not help with anything. You are just spreading ill will.

Also, if you think certain types of people are “fair game” to bash behind a keyboard, then we would all like to know what club you are at and who you are … so we know to stay away. Thanks!

People…this forum is about information, good and bad. When a club owner disbands the club (i.e. profitable business), the why becomes very important. It seems there are plenty of PPs defending the situation, but it sounds like someone cheated and got caught. I don’t know and we’ll probably never get the true story. I’m not rooting against the club, or the owner, but this info coming to light on this forum is the EXACT purpose of this forum.

First-hand knowledge is power. With that, then be honest. There was no "cheating and getting caught." There are 3-4 former families who clearly have no integrity or character. We know who you are. We've heard what you've been saying to others about former Husel and our kids (your former teammates). Rich of you to come on here and pretend otherwise.

Gee, I wonder who posted this^ Deflection from H club getting caught using foreign players isn’t going away. 3-4 families jumping ship spurred a disastrous decision by Hustle. FAFO situation.

[Anonymous]

Hoping for some advice...

DD was offered a two slots - travel on a low caliber club and development on a pretty high one.

We're debating whether its better to get much more field time with the former (which gets clobbered during tournaments) or spend fewer hours playing (no tournaments etc) but as part of a far more elite organization with presumably better coaching - and maybe a pathway to travel. She's also on her HS JV team.

Goal isn't to get a scholarship to college, but rather to develop as a player and have fun.