Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school

[Anonymous]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67406777

"They have argued that Taylor needs therapy for mental health issues, including schizoaffective disorder, and treatment for marijuana addiction."

So frightening that she could even purchase a gun to begin with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67406777

"They have argued that Taylor needs therapy for mental health issues, including schizoaffective disorder, and treatment for marijuana addiction."

So frightening that she could even purchase a gun to begin with.

This is the product and state of our country’s easy access to guns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:His great-grandfather, who has custody, said that he’s in school but it’s not a Newport News public school.

So private? Or moved away from that area and now at a public school in another county??

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe he is enrolled at another school. Hell to the no.

I am 100% sure he is enrolled in a therapeutic school, likely within a psychiatric facility or juvenile detention facility for children. They cannot disclose this due to privacy issues.

+1. There is no chance a regular public school would take him. It wouldn’t be hard to figure out who he is upon arrival based on the paper trail and teachers and other families would jump ship immediately.

I really hope you are right re: therapeutic school with psych.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67406777

"They have argued that Taylor needs therapy for mental health issues, including schizoaffective disorder, and treatment for marijuana addiction."

So frightening that she could even purchase a gun to begin with.

How about some nitwit "educator" with a doctoral degreed thought this woman should be in her child's classroom every day. As a parent or teacher in the school, I would be furious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe he is enrolled at another school. Hell to the no.

I am 100% sure he is enrolled in a therapeutic school, likely within a psychiatric facility or juvenile detention facility for children. They cannot disclose this due to privacy issues.

+1. There is no chance a regular public school would take him. It wouldn’t be hard to figure out who he is upon arrival based on the paper trail and teachers and other families would jump ship immediately.

I really hope you are right re: therapeutic school with psych.

The problem is that parents and sometimes previous schools and school systems don't forward all the info. Or they purposely omit certain facts from IEP minutes. Or a child gets "homeschooled" for awhile and enrolls in another district without all the paperwork. Trust me, it's not uncommon for kids with significant behavioral and neurological issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“He said Taylor had failed eight court-ordered drug tests since her arrest.”

Throw. Away. The. Key.

To think this woman was reportedly in her son's classroom on a regular basis? I think his teacher will have a good chance with her lawsuit. The administrators at his school (and possibly admin from the school system's higher ups) have a lot of explaining to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67406777

"They have argued that Taylor needs therapy for mental health issues, including schizoaffective disorder, and treatment for marijuana addiction."

So frightening that she could even purchase a gun to begin with.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67406777

"They have argued that Taylor needs therapy for mental health issues, including schizoaffective disorder, and treatment for marijuana addiction."

So frightening that she could even purchase a gun to begin with.

But I thought you couldn't get addicted to marijuana...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67406777

"They have argued that Taylor needs therapy for mental health issues, including schizoaffective disorder, and treatment for marijuana addiction."

So frightening that she could even purchase a gun to begin with.

But I thought you couldn't get addicted to marijuana...

You can get addicted to almost anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe he is enrolled at another school. Hell to the no.

I am 100% sure he is enrolled in a therapeutic school, likely within a psychiatric facility or juvenile detention facility for children. They cannot disclose this due to privacy issues.

+1. There is no chance a regular public school would take him. It wouldn’t be hard to figure out who he is upon arrival based on the paper trail and teachers and other families would jump ship immediately.

I really hope you are right re: therapeutic school with psych.

The problem is that parents and sometimes previous schools and school systems don't forward all the info. Or they purposely omit certain facts from IEP minutes. Or a child gets "homeschooled" for awhile and enrolls in another district without all the paperwork. Trust me, it's not uncommon for kids with significant behavioral and neurological issues.

DP. I think this is generally true but this incident was so widely publicized and you can find the names of a lot of the people involved quite easily.

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Anonymous wrote:Criminal Justice at work?

https://apnews.com/article/virginia-school-shooting-teacher-newport-news-2313674ec980908c33e60d59f1cec075

I cannot imagine working in such a poorly run school system with students placed inappropriately in classrooms without needed supports and then fighting hard to avoid paying out money to a teacher who was shot by a first grader.

Well most systems around the DMV have students placed inappropriately. And the school system isn’t fighting paying her. They just disagree on what is owed. She wants a big payout and the school system believes she’s owed workers comp, which provides wage loss, medical and permanent disability payments.

They ARE fighting it. Workers comp isn't nearly enough for what she experienced, and I would love to be privy to the behind the scenes conversations about how to cover up what really transpired and the terrible decisions that were made regarding this child's placement, despite his history of disturbing behaviors.

Will add that in all of my years of teaching and evaluating students with special needs, I've never known of a situation in which a parent was in the classroom daily...and most definitely should not be one who uses drugs.

I agree that we would never see those accommodations in the DMV. And apparently the legislature in VA believes that WC is sufficient to compensate injured workers or they would change the law. This is just a case where the courts are going to have to decide whether it is workers’ comp. It’s going to be years because this will go to VA’s highest court.

And while this is truly horrific, there are far worse accidents/incidents that have been deemed workers’ comp. It’s our country’s trade off - employees can always get compensated when hurt at work even if they are at fault but in exchange they can’t sue if it is the employer’s fault. There are some exceptions on both sides like if someone intentionally hurts themselves. But when it happens while working it is almost deemed workers’ comp. I’m looking forward to seeing the ultimate decision here.

Last thing I’ll say is that I think WC is more generous than you believe though it won’t likely reach millions in benefits - but it’s possible given her age.

PP here. Thank you for taking the time to share this info. Very helpful! I'm just still rather horrified and in disbelief that a child with this history of issues would have been in that classroom setting with his mother (or other parent?) as support. It's just really hard for me to understand the administrators' decisions.

It's my understanding that he is in a school this year.

Source? He shouldn't be.

Why? Even kids who are in juvenile detention attend school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67406777

"They have argued that Taylor needs therapy for mental health issues, including schizoaffective disorder, and treatment for marijuana addiction."

So frightening that she could even purchase a gun to begin with.

But I thought you couldn't get addicted to marijuana...

That's what they used to think/claim - we know better now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Criminal Justice at work?

https://apnews.com/article/virginia-school-shooting-teacher-newport-news-2313674ec980908c33e60d59f1cec075

I cannot imagine working in such a poorly run school system with students placed inappropriately in classrooms without needed supports and then fighting hard to avoid paying out money to a teacher who was shot by a first grader.

Well most systems around the DMV have students placed inappropriately. And the school system isn’t fighting paying her. They just disagree on what is owed. She wants a big payout and the school system believes she’s owed workers comp, which provides wage loss, medical and permanent disability payments.

They ARE fighting it. Workers comp isn't nearly enough for what she experienced, and I would love to be privy to the behind the scenes conversations about how to cover up what really transpired and the terrible decisions that were made regarding this child's placement, despite his history of disturbing behaviors.

Will add that in all of my years of teaching and evaluating students with special needs, I've never known of a situation in which a parent was in the classroom daily...and most definitely should not be one who uses drugs.

I agree that we would never see those accommodations in the DMV. And apparently the legislature in VA believes that WC is sufficient to compensate injured workers or they would change the law. This is just a case where the courts are going to have to decide whether it is workers’ comp. It’s going to be years because this will go to VA’s highest court.

And while this is truly horrific, there are far worse accidents/incidents that have been deemed workers’ comp. It’s our country’s trade off - employees can always get compensated when hurt at work even if they are at fault but in exchange they can’t sue if it is the employer’s fault. There are some exceptions on both sides like if someone intentionally hurts themselves. But when it happens while working it is almost deemed workers’ comp. I’m looking forward to seeing the ultimate decision here.

Last thing I’ll say is that I think WC is more generous than you believe though it won’t likely reach millions in benefits - but it’s possible given her age.

What? You're way off here - it simply doesn't get any worse than being intentionally shot by a 6 year old.

Period. Full stop.

One could contend that there are things as bad; but nothing worse or "far worse".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe he is enrolled at another school. Hell to the no.

I am 100% sure he is enrolled in a therapeutic school, likely within a psychiatric facility or juvenile detention facility for children. They cannot disclose this due to privacy issues.

+1. There is no chance a regular public school would take him. It wouldn’t be hard to figure out who he is upon arrival based on the paper trail and teachers and other families would jump ship immediately.

I really hope you are right re: therapeutic school with psych.

The problem is that parents and sometimes previous schools and school systems don't forward all the info. Or they purposely omit certain facts from IEP minutes. Or a child gets "homeschooled" for awhile and enrolls in another district without all the paperwork. Trust me, it's not uncommon for kids with significant behavioral and neurological issues.

DP. I think this is generally true but this incident was so widely publicized and you can find the names of a lot of the people involved quite easily.

I hope you're right, but pictures of the child aren't readily available; and it seems that no thorough, formal documentation of his issues exists.