FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People can sign a petition 20 times using fake names.

Petitions should not even be considered.

Dp. And yet you can't put one together?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People can sign a petition 20 times using fake names.

Petitions should not even be considered.

Dp. And yet you can't put one together?

Why would I do something so silly and inconsequential with my time?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the SB and Reid and FCPS admin are spending so much time and effort getting community feedback. Every management decision is not a democracy. They were presumably elected or hired for their competence in administrating school system. Set the boundaries and move on. Stop catering to individual HOAs or PTA presidents or whoever,

It seems like the loudest, most-well connected voices are getting their way with the current ridiculous process. If FCPS wants us all to "get a vote" on the boundaries, set up a vote. If they don't want to do that, then make a decision using your so called expertise and judgment and move us all on.

You keep saying that FCPS shouldn’t listen to families, and we keep telling you how absolutely absurd that is. Sounds like you just don’t want to put in the effort that others do to advocate for your own kids.

DP. Families are absolutely not catered to in this same manner elsewhere in the country when there are boundary changes. The parents here act like spoiled, entitled toddlers.

Agree. Everyone "advocating" for their own kids results in the loudest voices being catered to and bad decisions, not decisions *in the best interest of the school system as a whole*.

Are you sure? What if all those people leave the County? Who will be left to pay for the school system?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the SB and Reid and FCPS admin are spending so much time and effort getting community feedback. Every management decision is not a democracy. They were presumably elected or hired for their competence in administrating school system. Set the boundaries and move on. Stop catering to individual HOAs or PTA presidents or whoever,

It seems like the loudest, most-well connected voices are getting their way with the current ridiculous process. If FCPS wants us all to "get a vote" on the boundaries, set up a vote. If they don't want to do that, then make a decision using your so called expertise and judgment and move us all on.

You keep saying that FCPS shouldn’t listen to families, and we keep telling you how absolutely absurd that is. Sounds like you just don’t want to put in the effort that others do to advocate for your own kids.

Feedback is one thing. But, it should be based on facts and not emotion.
RIO's facts are "I want." Everyone wants stability and a good school. Not just RIO. Everyone wants good property values. There is no reason to think property values will drop.

I've not seen one concrete reason why Crossfield should not go to Skyview. Not one. Oakton is at capacity and there are currently well over 50 new construction homes in the boundary--and many more to come. It is puzzling why the data was not included in the presentation last month.

The new schools will have sports. VHSL sports.
The new school will have challenging AP classes and electives.
The new school will save money on transportation.
The new school will save time on commute--better quality of life.
The new school will be a community school. Crossfield families shop in the Skyview area. The children play sports in the Skyview area.

Oakton parents works hard and paid for high price for their property.

You are saying it is fair to move other people's kids without concrete reason? What benefit bring you by moving other people' kids?

Oakton parents do not shop in Skyview area.

Ask Chantilly parents, ask Mclean Parents, ask Great Falls parents, ask Centreville parents, they will tell you the same reason why they need to stay.

The only people who want to go to Kyview is because the see their house value will increase a lot by rezoned to Skyview.

I would say it is fair for you to give up your home so other people can live in your home and you should work hard to support them!

What kids will be moved without a "concrete reason"? Do you think FCPS is just moving kids around for fun-sies? A new school was purchased and it needs a boundary. How do you not understand this is the "concrete reason"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the SB and Reid and FCPS admin are spending so much time and effort getting community feedback. Every management decision is not a democracy. They were presumably elected or hired for their competence in administrating school system. Set the boundaries and move on. Stop catering to individual HOAs or PTA presidents or whoever,

It seems like the loudest, most-well connected voices are getting their way with the current ridiculous process. If FCPS wants us all to "get a vote" on the boundaries, set up a vote. If they don't want to do that, then make a decision using your so called expertise and judgment and move us all on.

You keep saying that FCPS shouldn’t listen to families, and we keep telling you how absolutely absurd that is. Sounds like you just don’t want to put in the effort that others do to advocate for your own kids.

Feedback is one thing. But, it should be based on facts and not emotion.
RIO's facts are "I want." Everyone wants stability and a good school. Not just RIO. Everyone wants good property values. There is no reason to think property values will drop.

I've not seen one concrete reason why Crossfield should not go to Skyview. Not one. Oakton is at capacity and there are currently well over 50 new construction homes in the boundary--and many more to come. It is puzzling why the data was not included in the presentation last month.

The new schools will have sports. VHSL sports.
The new school will have challenging AP classes and electives.
The new school will save money on transportation.
The new school will save time on commute--better quality of life.
The new school will be a community school. Crossfield families shop in the Skyview area. The children play sports in the Skyview area.

Oakton parents works hard and paid for high price for their property.

You are saying it is fair to move other people's kids without concrete reason? What benefit bring you by moving other people' kids?

Oakton parents do not shop in Skyview area.

Ask Chantilly parents, ask Mclean Parents, ask Great Falls parents, ask Centreville parents, they will tell you the same reason why they need to stay.

The only people who want to go to Kyview is because the see their house value will increase a lot by rezoned to Skyview.

I would say it is fair for you to give up your home so other people can live in your home and you should work hard to support them!

Sorry, how is this relevant? You buy a house, not permanent access to a particular school.

DP

It's totally relevant. Some people buy into a community for access to those schools.
Then will then fight to the last tooth to keep it. See Langley and McLean.

Why would you be surprised by this?

It should NOT be a factor in making sensible school boundaries. People's personal finances are not everyone else's concern.

What if other people tell you that and force you out of your home?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the SB and Reid and FCPS admin are spending so much time and effort getting community feedback. Every management decision is not a democracy. They were presumably elected or hired for their competence in administrating school system. Set the boundaries and move on. Stop catering to individual HOAs or PTA presidents or whoever,

It seems like the loudest, most-well connected voices are getting their way with the current ridiculous process. If FCPS wants us all to "get a vote" on the boundaries, set up a vote. If they don't want to do that, then make a decision using your so called expertise and judgment and move us all on.

You keep saying that FCPS shouldn’t listen to families, and we keep telling you how absolutely absurd that is. Sounds like you just don’t want to put in the effort that others do to advocate for your own kids.

DP. Families are absolutely not catered to in this same manner elsewhere in the country when there are boundary changes. The parents here act like spoiled, entitled toddlers.

Agree. Everyone "advocating" for their own kids results in the loudest voices being catered to and bad decisions, not decisions *in the best interest of the school system as a whole*.

Are you sure? What if all those people leave the County? Who will be left to pay for the school system?

I guess we will have to cross that bridge when all these people flee for wherever you think they will go. You can't make policy decisions based on threats from bratty parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the SB and Reid and FCPS admin are spending so much time and effort getting community feedback. Every management decision is not a democracy. They were presumably elected or hired for their competence in administrating school system. Set the boundaries and move on. Stop catering to individual HOAs or PTA presidents or whoever,

It seems like the loudest, most-well connected voices are getting their way with the current ridiculous process. If FCPS wants us all to "get a vote" on the boundaries, set up a vote. If they don't want to do that, then make a decision using your so called expertise and judgment and move us all on.

You keep saying that FCPS shouldn’t listen to families, and we keep telling you how absolutely absurd that is. Sounds like you just don’t want to put in the effort that others do to advocate for your own kids.

Feedback is one thing. But, it should be based on facts and not emotion.
RIO's facts are "I want." Everyone wants stability and a good school. Not just RIO. Everyone wants good property values. There is no reason to think property values will drop.

I've not seen one concrete reason why Crossfield should not go to Skyview. Not one. Oakton is at capacity and there are currently well over 50 new construction homes in the boundary--and many more to come. It is puzzling why the data was not included in the presentation last month.

The new schools will have sports. VHSL sports.
The new school will have challenging AP classes and electives.
The new school will save money on transportation.
The new school will save time on commute--better quality of life.
The new school will be a community school. Crossfield families shop in the Skyview area. The children play sports in the Skyview area.

Oakton parents works hard and paid for high price for their property.

You are saying it is fair to move other people's kids without concrete reason? What benefit bring you by moving other people' kids?

Oakton parents do not shop in Skyview area.

Ask Chantilly parents, ask Mclean Parents, ask Great Falls parents, ask Centreville parents, they will tell you the same reason why they need to stay.

The only people who want to go to Kyview is because the see their house value will increase a lot by rezoned to Skyview.

I would say it is fair for you to give up your home so other people can live in your home and you should work hard to support them!

Sorry, how is this relevant? You buy a house, not permanent access to a particular school.

DP

It's totally relevant. Some people buy into a community for access to those schools.
Then will then fight to the last tooth to keep it. See Langley and McLean.

Why would you be surprised by this?

It should NOT be a factor in making sensible school boundaries. People's personal finances are not everyone else's concern.

What if other people tell you that and force you out of your home?

Who is being "forced out of their home"? Are you hitting the sauce early?

[Anonymous]

You buy into a public school system. You aren't buying a particular school. Everyone knows that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the SB and Reid and FCPS admin are spending so much time and effort getting community feedback. Every management decision is not a democracy. They were presumably elected or hired for their competence in administrating school system. Set the boundaries and move on. Stop catering to individual HOAs or PTA presidents or whoever,

It seems like the loudest, most-well connected voices are getting their way with the current ridiculous process. If FCPS wants us all to "get a vote" on the boundaries, set up a vote. If they don't want to do that, then make a decision using your so called expertise and judgment and move us all on.

You keep saying that FCPS shouldn’t listen to families, and we keep telling you how absolutely absurd that is. Sounds like you just don’t want to put in the effort that others do to advocate for your own kids.

DP. Families are absolutely not catered to in this same manner elsewhere in the country when there are boundary changes. The parents here act like spoiled, entitled toddlers.

Agree. Everyone "advocating" for their own kids results in the loudest voices being catered to and bad decisions, not decisions *in the best interest of the school system as a whole*.

Are you sure? What if all those people leave the County? Who will be left to pay for the school system?

Tired argument. People will always do what's in their own best interest. If that's moving, then they move. The racists fled public schools in the south when they were integrated: should we have kept separate schools to keep them from leaving?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People can sign a petition 20 times using fake names.

Petitions should not even be considered.

Dp. And yet you can't put one together?

Why would I do something so silly and inconsequential with my time?

Sure, Jan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the SB and Reid and FCPS admin are spending so much time and effort getting community feedback. Every management decision is not a democracy. They were presumably elected or hired for their competence in administrating school system. Set the boundaries and move on. Stop catering to individual HOAs or PTA presidents or whoever,

It seems like the loudest, most-well connected voices are getting their way with the current ridiculous process. If FCPS wants us all to "get a vote" on the boundaries, set up a vote. If they don't want to do that, then make a decision using your so called expertise and judgment and move us all on.

You keep saying that FCPS shouldn’t listen to families, and we keep telling you how absolutely absurd that is. Sounds like you just don’t want to put in the effort that others do to advocate for your own kids.

Feedback is one thing. But, it should be based on facts and not emotion.
RIO's facts are "I want." Everyone wants stability and a good school. Not just RIO. Everyone wants good property values. There is no reason to think property values will drop.

I've not seen one concrete reason why Crossfield should not go to Skyview. Not one. Oakton is at capacity and there are currently well over 50 new construction homes in the boundary--and many more to come. It is puzzling why the data was not included in the presentation last month.

The new schools will have sports. VHSL sports.
The new school will have challenging AP classes and electives.
The new school will save money on transportation.
The new school will save time on commute--better quality of life.
The new school will be a community school. Crossfield families shop in the Skyview area. The children play sports in the Skyview area.

Oakton parents works hard and paid for high price for their property.

You are saying it is fair to move other people's kids without concrete reason? What benefit bring you by moving other people' kids?

Oakton parents do not shop in Skyview area.

Ask Chantilly parents, ask Mclean Parents, ask Great Falls parents, ask Centreville parents, they will tell you the same reason why they need to stay.

The only people who want to go to Kyview is because the see their house value will increase a lot by rezoned to Skyview.

I would say it is fair for you to give up your home so other people can live in your home and you should work hard to support them!

Sorry, how is this relevant? You buy a house, not permanent access to a particular school.

DP

It's totally relevant. Some people buy into a community for access to those schools.
Then will then fight to the last tooth to keep it. See Langley and McLean.

Why would you be surprised by this?

It should NOT be a factor in making sensible school boundaries. People's personal finances are not everyone else's concern.

DP. I really wish you understood how taxes work. You’re dragging the whole school system down with your faulty logic.

[Anonymous]

Just an example

You are saying kids in Herndon high school are entitled to go to school in Mclean? We can all decide where our kids can go as long as we are in fcps?

When kids in Herndon high school want to go to Mclean, they are the good kids raised by well behaved parents?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the SB and Reid and FCPS admin are spending so much time and effort getting community feedback. Every management decision is not a democracy. They were presumably elected or hired for their competence in administrating school system. Set the boundaries and move on. Stop catering to individual HOAs or PTA presidents or whoever,

It seems like the loudest, most-well connected voices are getting their way with the current ridiculous process. If FCPS wants us all to "get a vote" on the boundaries, set up a vote. If they don't want to do that, then make a decision using your so called expertise and judgment and move us all on.

You keep saying that FCPS shouldn’t listen to families, and we keep telling you how absolutely absurd that is. Sounds like you just don’t want to put in the effort that others do to advocate for your own kids.

Feedback is one thing. But, it should be based on facts and not emotion.
RIO's facts are "I want." Everyone wants stability and a good school. Not just RIO. Everyone wants good property values. There is no reason to think property values will drop.

I've not seen one concrete reason why Crossfield should not go to Skyview. Not one. Oakton is at capacity and there are currently well over 50 new construction homes in the boundary--and many more to come. It is puzzling why the data was not included in the presentation last month.

The new schools will have sports. VHSL sports.
The new school will have challenging AP classes and electives.
The new school will save money on transportation.
The new school will save time on commute--better quality of life.
The new school will be a community school. Crossfield families shop in the Skyview area. The children play sports in the Skyview area.

Oakton parents works hard and paid for high price for their property.

You are saying it is fair to move other people's kids without concrete reason? What benefit bring you by moving other people' kids?

Oakton parents do not shop in Skyview area.

Ask Chantilly parents, ask Mclean Parents, ask Great Falls parents, ask Centreville parents, they will tell you the same reason why they need to stay.

The only people who want to go to Kyview is because the see their house value will increase a lot by rezoned to Skyview.

I would say it is fair for you to give up your home so other people can live in your home and you should work hard to support them!

Sorry, how is this relevant? You buy a house, not permanent access to a particular school.

DP

It's totally relevant. Some people buy into a community for access to those schools.
Then will then fight to the last tooth to keep it. See Langley and McLean.

Why would you be surprised by this?

It should NOT be a factor in making sensible school boundaries. People's personal finances are not everyone else's concern.

DP. I really wish you understood how taxes work. You’re dragging the whole school system down with your faulty logic.

Please, explain to me how paying taxes entitles you to never having your school boundary changed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just an example

You are saying kids in Herndon high school are entitled to go to school in Mclean? We can all decide where our kids can go as long as we are in fcps?

When kids in Herndon high school want to go to Mclean, they are the good kids raised by well behaved parents?

What is this "we can all decide"? FCPS draws the school boundaries. If they draw a boundary that sends Herndon kids to Mclean, then that's where the Herndon kids go.

I don't understand what "they are the good kids raised by well behaved parents" means. Are you the drunk one?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the SB and Reid and FCPS admin are spending so much time and effort getting community feedback. Every management decision is not a democracy. They were presumably elected or hired for their competence in administrating school system. Set the boundaries and move on. Stop catering to individual HOAs or PTA presidents or whoever,

It seems like the loudest, most-well connected voices are getting their way with the current ridiculous process. If FCPS wants us all to "get a vote" on the boundaries, set up a vote. If they don't want to do that, then make a decision using your so called expertise and judgment and move us all on.

You keep saying that FCPS shouldn’t listen to families, and we keep telling you how absolutely absurd that is. Sounds like you just don’t want to put in the effort that others do to advocate for your own kids.

Feedback is one thing. But, it should be based on facts and not emotion.
RIO's facts are "I want." Everyone wants stability and a good school. Not just RIO. Everyone wants good property values. There is no reason to think property values will drop.

I've not seen one concrete reason why Crossfield should not go to Skyview. Not one. Oakton is at capacity and there are currently well over 50 new construction homes in the boundary--and many more to come. It is puzzling why the data was not included in the presentation last month.

The new schools will have sports. VHSL sports.
The new school will have challenging AP classes and electives.
The new school will save money on transportation.
The new school will save time on commute--better quality of life.
The new school will be a community school. Crossfield families shop in the Skyview area. The children play sports in the Skyview area.

Oakton parents works hard and paid for high price for their property.

You are saying it is fair to move other people's kids without concrete reason? What benefit bring you by moving other people' kids?

Oakton parents do not shop in Skyview area.

Ask Chantilly parents, ask Mclean Parents, ask Great Falls parents, ask Centreville parents, they will tell you the same reason why they need to stay.

The only people who want to go to Kyview is because the see their house value will increase a lot by rezoned to Skyview.

I would say it is fair for you to give up your home so other people can live in your home and you should work hard to support them!

Sorry, how is this relevant? You buy a house, not permanent access to a particular school.

DP

It's totally relevant. Some people buy into a community for access to those schools.
Then will then fight to the last tooth to keep it. See Langley and McLean.

Why would you be surprised by this?

It should NOT be a factor in making sensible school boundaries. People's personal finances are not everyone else's concern.

DP. I really wish you understood how taxes work. You’re dragging the whole school system down with your faulty logic.

For the four ES that will for sure be rezoned to Skyview, it is in your best interest for you to not get any other ES involved in the rezoning to Skyview or moving around backfill.

So all the Oakton, Chantilly and Centreville families can stay at the county and continue to pay for the afterschool/special program activities Carson kids and Skyview kids can enjoy.