DA vs ECNL vs everything else

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course they make mistakes. Pros make mistakes. Just lamenting the situation that none of us can do anything about. If you have a strong, interested player (which I am guessing includes all the parents that would bother with a soccer forum) what do you do?

I personally dislike the entire uber-monetized youth sports machine we have all created but that said - we have to choose a team. For what it costs us all in time and money, wish there was an obvious winner so the motivated players could be together and learn to more successfully execute higher level play. Oh well, life goes on.

The last two years I have toyed with the idea of forming a team outside the club system with a group of motivated and committed players I know who share my and DS' frustrations with the current system. I know the coach I'd hire too. I feel that this would really benefit players in the range of U10-14 and wish I had the guts to pull the trigger on it.

That requires money more than guts I think. There have been teams like that with wealthy benefactors but has its own set of issues including getting players to move for a team that plays in a team based league rather then a club based league.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone can go on the USSDA Facebook page and watch this weekend's showcase games.

Many are professionally narrated and are a pleasure to watch. Make the decesion yourself. Just got done watch U15 (8th and 9th graders) Penn Fusion vs Dallas. Quality football for their age. Multiple NT call up players.

Hard pressed to find this quality anywhere outside the DA for u15 and below.

Not sure what teams you have seen but I did not find the play extraordinary although Shaw from FC Dallas is a talent. To be honest, the style is more organized and smother but I don't think the quality of players is much different from top players on the top teams of the same age in the DMV. Arlington, Mclean, Fredrick and Annapolis. I am not sure watching those games convinced me that the USWNT is going to rely soley on UDA to build a World Cup champion team. If so, why operate a seperate league. It is just insane.

Again, this board is occupied by people who don't understand what they are looking at. I just so ridiculous going back and forth with people who don't understand the quality being dislayed. Your own this board for a reason....

[Anonymous]

Moving on,

VDA, Loudoun, Mclean, BRYC retaining players for ECNL or nah?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone can go on the USSDA Facebook page and watch this weekend's showcase games.

Many are professionally narrated and are a pleasure to watch. Make the decesion yourself. Just got done watch U15 (8th and 9th graders) Penn Fusion vs Dallas. Quality football for their age. Multiple NT call up players.

Hard pressed to find this quality anywhere outside the DA for u15 and below.

Not sure what teams you have seen but I did not find the play extraordinary although Shaw from FC Dallas is a talent. To be honest, the style is more organized and smother but I don't think the quality of players is much different from top players on the top teams of the same age in the DMV. Arlington, Mclean, Fredrick and Annapolis. I am not sure watching those games convinced me that the USWNT is going to rely soley on UDA to build a World Cup champion team. If so, why operate a seperate league. It is just insane.

Again, this board is occupied by people who don't understand what they are looking at. I just so ridiculous going back and forth with people who don't understand the quality being dislayed. Your own this board for a reason....

we are not worthy oh wise one. I am sure non of the posters here have spent hours and hours and hours and hours and hours observing kids learn how to play soccer.

[Anonymous]

Ok, the heck with it.

Local non-ecnl and non-Da players are just as good if not better than ECNL and DA teams and their teams will easily compete on the ECNL and DA level...and Penn Fusion and Dallas Sting are just average teams on the same level as Annopolis.

Again, it's like having tea at the insane asylum. You don't know what you're talking about.

The speed of play is so fast, the touch so good, the decesion making on point. It's easy playing soccer on a slow paced no pressure level. Trying playing 80 minutes of mistake free soccer against truly talented athletes who will make you pay for a single misstep. 90 percent of players are not ever fit enough to play at that level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok, the heck with it.

Local non-ecnl and non-Da players are just as good if not better than ECNL and DA teams and their teams will easily compete on the ECNL and DA level...and Penn Fusion and Dallas Sting are just average teams on the same level as Annopolis.

Again, it's like having tea at the insane asylum. You don't know what you're talking about.

The speed of play is so fast, the touch so good, the decesion making on point. It's easy playing soccer on a slow paced no pressure level. Trying playing 80 minutes of mistake free soccer against truly talented athletes who will make you pay for a single misstep. 90 percent of players are not ever fit enough to play at that level.

Heck with above. Overly dramatic nonsense.

High end youth soccer is over-monetized, over-priced, over-done and not very effective. I mean little tiny Iceland with less than half a million people TOTAL, managed to qualify for the world cup. Our system is about business, not high level soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, the heck with it.

Local non-ecnl and non-Da players are just as good if not better than ECNL and DA teams and their teams will easily compete on the ECNL and DA level...and Penn Fusion and Dallas Sting are just average teams on the same level as Annopolis.

Again, it's like having tea at the insane asylum. You don't know what you're talking about.

The speed of play is so fast, the touch so good, the decesion making on point. It's easy playing soccer on a slow paced no pressure level. Trying playing 80 minutes of mistake free soccer against truly talented athletes who will make you pay for a single misstep. 90 percent of players are not ever fit enough to play at that level.

Heck with above. Overly dramatic nonsense.

High end youth soccer is over-monetized, over-priced, over-done and not very effective. I mean little tiny Iceland with less than half a million people TOTAL, managed to qualify for the world cup. Our system is about business, not high level soccer.

Is there anyone with a top 10 player in their age group in the DMV that is not being sucked into the #moneygrab?

Highly doubt it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, the heck with it.

Local non-ecnl and non-Da players are just as good if not better than ECNL and DA teams and their teams will easily compete on the ECNL and DA level...and Penn Fusion and Dallas Sting are just average teams on the same level as Annopolis.

Again, it's like having tea at the insane asylum. You don't know what you're talking about.

The speed of play is so fast, the touch so good, the decesion making on point. It's easy playing soccer on a slow paced no pressure level. Trying playing 80 minutes of mistake free soccer against truly talented athletes who will make you pay for a single misstep. 90 percent of players are not ever fit enough to play at that level.

Heck with above. Overly dramatic nonsense.

High end youth soccer is over-monetized, over-priced, over-done and not very effective. I mean little tiny Iceland with less than half a million people TOTAL, managed to qualify for the world cup. Our system is about business, not high level soccer.

Why are you on this thread? To say that youre smart because your daughter plays rec. And we're idiots because our kids should be playing rec. And are only playing DA or ECNL because were idiots and pay for it?

Like WTF is your point. ,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, the heck with it.

Local non-ecnl and non-Da players are just as good if not better than ECNL and DA teams and their teams will easily compete on the ECNL and DA level...and Penn Fusion and Dallas Sting are just average teams on the same level as Annopolis.

Again, it's like having tea at the insane asylum. You don't know what you're talking about.

The speed of play is so fast, the touch so good, the decesion making on point. It's easy playing soccer on a slow paced no pressure level. Trying playing 80 minutes of mistake free soccer against truly talented athletes who will make you pay for a single misstep. 90 percent of players are not ever fit enough to play at that level.

Heck with above. Overly dramatic nonsense.

High end youth soccer is over-monetized, over-priced, over-done and not very effective. I mean little tiny Iceland with less than half a million people TOTAL, managed to qualify for the world cup. Our system is about business, not high level soccer.

Why are you on this thread? To say that youre smart because your daughter plays rec. And we're idiots because our kids should be playing rec. And are only playing DA or ECNL because were idiots and pay for it?

Like WTF is your point. ,

What is yours? Lap it all up like an eager puppy and ask for more? Not in rec...what poster bothering with a soccer forum is in rec? The point of a soccer forum is to discuss the good and the bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, the heck with it.

Local non-ecnl and non-Da players are just as good if not better than ECNL and DA teams and their teams will easily compete on the ECNL and DA level...and Penn Fusion and Dallas Sting are just average teams on the same level as Annopolis.

Again, it's like having tea at the insane asylum. You don't know what you're talking about.

The speed of play is so fast, the touch so good, the decesion making on point. It's easy playing soccer on a slow paced no pressure level. Trying playing 80 minutes of mistake free soccer against truly talented athletes who will make you pay for a single misstep. 90 percent of players are not ever fit enough to play at that level.

Heck with above. Overly dramatic nonsense.

High end youth soccer is over-monetized, over-priced, over-done and not very effective. I mean little tiny Iceland with less than half a million people TOTAL, managed to qualify for the world cup. Our system is about business, not high level soccer.

Ahh yes...your a parent of a male soccer player. We have daughters. Women soccer in the US is good unlike the men. So save that iceland BS for another time. Sucks to be you pal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, the heck with it.

Local non-ecnl and non-Da players are just as good if not better than ECNL and DA teams and their teams will easily compete on the ECNL and DA level...and Penn Fusion and Dallas Sting are just average teams on the same level as Annopolis.

Again, it's like having tea at the insane asylum. You don't know what you're talking about.

The speed of play is so fast, the touch so good, the decesion making on point. It's easy playing soccer on a slow paced no pressure level. Trying playing 80 minutes of mistake free soccer against truly talented athletes who will make you pay for a single misstep. 90 percent of players are not ever fit enough to play at that level.

Heck with above. Overly dramatic nonsense.

High end youth soccer is over-monetized, over-priced, over-done and not very effective. I mean little tiny Iceland with less than half a million people TOTAL, managed to qualify for the world cup. Our system is about business, not high level soccer.

Why are you on this thread? To say that youre smart because your daughter plays rec. And we're idiots because our kids should be playing rec. And are only playing DA or ECNL because were idiots and pay for it?

Like WTF is your point. ,

What is yours? Lap it all up like an eager puppy and ask for more? Not in rec...what poster bothering with a soccer forum is in rec? The point of a soccer forum is to discuss the good and the bad.

Your child doesn't play high end soccer so you have no knowledge base.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, the heck with it.

Local non-ecnl and non-Da players are just as good if not better than ECNL and DA teams and their teams will easily compete on the ECNL and DA level...and Penn Fusion and Dallas Sting are just average teams on the same level as Annopolis.

Again, it's like having tea at the insane asylum. You don't know what you're talking about.

The speed of play is so fast, the touch so good, the decesion making on point. It's easy playing soccer on a slow paced no pressure level. Trying playing 80 minutes of mistake free soccer against truly talented athletes who will make you pay for a single misstep. 90 percent of players are not ever fit enough to play at that level.

Heck with above. Overly dramatic nonsense.

High end youth soccer is over-monetized, over-priced, over-done and not very effective. I mean little tiny Iceland with less than half a million people TOTAL, managed to qualify for the world cup. Our system is about business, not high level soccer.

Why are you on this thread? To say that youre smart because your daughter plays rec. And we're idiots because our kids should be playing rec. And are only playing DA or ECNL because were idiots and pay for it?

Like WTF is your point. ,

What is yours? Lap it all up like an eager puppy and ask for more? Not in rec...what poster bothering with a soccer forum is in rec? The point of a soccer forum is to discuss the good and the bad.

Your child doesn't play high end soccer so you have no knowledge base.

You are good at the fake news. Been through the age change, this coaching philosophy, that coaching philosophy, this program, that program, id2, ntc, ecnl, gda, etc. etc. I get it. I am critical. We make a choice and carry on. Only constant is constant disruption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course they make mistakes. Pros make mistakes. Just lamenting the situation that none of us can do anything about. If you have a strong, interested player (which I am guessing includes all the parents that would bother with a soccer forum) what do you do?

I personally dislike the entire uber-monetized youth sports machine we have all created but that said - we have to choose a team. For what it costs us all in time and money, wish there was an obvious winner so the motivated players could be together and learn to more successfully execute higher level play. Oh well, life goes on.

The last two years I have toyed with the idea of forming a team outside the club system with a group of motivated and committed players I know who share my and DS' frustrations with the current system. I know the coach I'd hire too. I feel that this would really benefit players in the range of U10-14 and wish I had the guts to pull the trigger on it.

There was a team that did this several years ago: FC Fewster. I don't know all details of how they formed since we are far from Baltimore, but I gather that coach had some kind of issue with the top club in the area at the time (Baltimore Bays) and the coach decided to form a club/team with just his kids and their friends. They were very successful in tournaments for many years. You can see some of the events they played at here: https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=131612&Page=1&History=yes&compact= . Most of the kids moved to Baltimore Celtic eventually and were together on one of their national championship winning teams. Most have been recruited to D1 schools.

If you are serious, it might be worth getting in touch with the coach to see if he can offer any advice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, the heck with it.

Local non-ecnl and non-Da players are just as good if not better than ECNL and DA teams and their teams will easily compete on the ECNL and DA level...and Penn Fusion and Dallas Sting are just average teams on the same level as Annopolis.

Again, it's like having tea at the insane asylum. You don't know what you're talking about.

The speed of play is so fast, the touch so good, the decesion making on point. It's easy playing soccer on a slow paced no pressure level. Trying playing 80 minutes of mistake free soccer against truly talented athletes who will make you pay for a single misstep. 90 percent of players are not ever fit enough to play at that level.

Heck with above. Overly dramatic nonsense.

High end youth soccer is over-monetized, over-priced, over-done and not very effective. I mean little tiny Iceland with less than half a million people TOTAL, managed to qualify for the world cup. Our system is about business, not high level soccer.

Why are you on this thread? To say that youre smart because your daughter plays rec. And we're idiots because our kids should be playing rec. And are only playing DA or ECNL because were idiots and pay for it?

Like WTF is your point. ,

What is yours? Lap it all up like an eager puppy and ask for more? Not in rec...what poster bothering with a soccer forum is in rec? The point of a soccer forum is to discuss the good and the bad.

+1 Ignore that lemming. We are ECNL/DA and couldn't agree more. Too many clubs sucking dollars in the name of eliteness from parents excited to warm the bench on DD's team. Imagine consolidating the top 3-5 from several nearby clubs on one team. Imagine if Reston were the only destination. Lots of unhappy parents who would be S.O.O.L. because they couldn't pay to play on an awesome team of true stars. The bottom 5 on any local ECNL or DA squad are so very average.

[Anonymous]

^^^PP
Doesn’t every team have a bench? I’m trying to follow the logic here.