Second round options for Woodward boundary study

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Anonymous wrote:I also would view Einstein as being in the strongest Region- with powerhouses Blair, BCC and Whitman. How can that be a bad thing?

Because Einstein folks want the home school to stay strong. I have zero desire to cart my child to Whitman. Being in a region with Whitman is not a plus for me.

But it’s not just about you, PP. it’s about all the kids. Some will really benefit from the opportunity to go to Whitman, BCC, Blair or Northwood (they do have a wonderful theater program). Some will be better off staying at Einstein. Perhaps your chances of getting into Blair improve under this model too.

Placing highly qualified teachers in wealthy schools and siphoning off high achieving students (but only the ones with cars or that can swing a long commute) from low income schools does not help all kids. On the contrary it helps a small number of kids and hurts the majority.

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Locating the most rigorous, most sought-after programs in the highest SES schools, as they're doing in Region 1 (not sure about the others) is so backwards.

? Blair is retaining the STEM-focused magnet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I also would view Einstein as being in the strongest Region- with powerhouses Blair, BCC and Whitman. How can that be a bad thing?

Because Einstein folks want the home school to stay strong. I have zero desire to cart my child to Whitman. Being in a region with Whitman is not a plus for me.

But it’s not just about you, PP. it’s about all the kids. Some will really benefit from the opportunity to go to Whitman, BCC, Blair or Northwood (they do have a wonderful theater program). Some will be better off staying at Einstein. Perhaps your chances of getting into Blair improve under this model too.

Who will benefit from Whitman? Transportation alone is a nightmare. You forget kids go back and forth for sports and activities and that is a long haul round trip 3-4 times a day.

[Anonymous]

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I prefer to have my home school be strong (currently WJ, but chance we go to Woodward) than hang my hat on my kid doing to a watered down magnet in the ghetto of current DCC. Woodward is being slated as an arts magnet. What a major waste

If my 4-bedroom home on a quarter acre on a quiet leafy street is “the ghetto,” then I don’t think words mean anything anymore.

Shhh let them think what they want

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I also would view Einstein as being in the strongest Region- with powerhouses Blair, BCC and Whitman. How can that be a bad thing?

Because Einstein folks want the home school to stay strong. I have zero desire to cart my child to Whitman. Being in a region with Whitman is not a plus for me.

But it’s not just about you, PP. it’s about all the kids. Some will really benefit from the opportunity to go to Whitman, BCC, Blair or Northwood (they do have a wonderful theater program). Some will be better off staying at Einstein. Perhaps your chances of getting into Blair improve under this model too.

Placing highly qualified teachers in wealthy schools and siphoning off high achieving students (but only the ones with cars or that can swing a long commute) from low income schools does not help all kids. On the contrary it helps a small number of kids and hurts the majority.

+100

Locating the most rigorous, most sought-after programs in the highest SES schools, as they're doing in Region 1 (not sure about the others) is so backwards.

Blair is tied with Einstein in terms of FARMS % for attending students, and well below Northwood. And is already very rich in course offerings.
? Blair is retaining the STEM-focused magnet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also would view Einstein as being in the strongest Region- with powerhouses Blair, BCC and Whitman. How can that be a bad thing?

Because Einstein folks want the home school to stay strong. I have zero desire to cart my child to Whitman. Being in a region with Whitman is not a plus for me.

But it’s not just about you, PP. it’s about all the kids. Some will really benefit from the opportunity to go to Whitman, BCC, Blair or Northwood (they do have a wonderful theater program). Some will be better off staying at Einstein. Perhaps your chances of getting into Blair improve under this model too.

Placing highly qualified teachers in wealthy schools and siphoning off high achieving students (but only the ones with cars or that can swing a long commute) from low income schools does not help all kids. On the contrary it helps a small number of kids and hurts the majority.

+100

Locating the most rigorous, most sought-after programs in the highest SES schools, as they're doing in Region 1 (not sure about the others) is so backwards.

? Blair is retaining the STEM-focused magnet.

Is it really retaining its existing program? And they are placing two criteria based programs at BCC and Whitman. Why do they want to draw high achieving students to these schools? They don't need this, they already have plenty of advanced coursework there and large high achieving cohorts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also would view Einstein as being in the strongest Region- with powerhouses Blair, BCC and Whitman. How can that be a bad thing?

Because Einstein folks want the home school to stay strong. I have zero desire to cart my child to Whitman. Being in a region with Whitman is not a plus for me.

But it’s not just about you, PP. it’s about all the kids. Some will really benefit from the opportunity to go to Whitman, BCC, Blair or Northwood (they do have a wonderful theater program). Some will be better off staying at Einstein. Perhaps your chances of getting into Blair improve under this model too.

Placing highly qualified teachers in wealthy schools and siphoning off high achieving students (but only the ones with cars or that can swing a long commute) from low income schools does not help all kids. On the contrary it helps a small number of kids and hurts the majority.

+100

Locating the most rigorous, most sought-after programs in the highest SES schools, as they're doing in Region 1 (not sure about the others) is so backwards.

? Blair is retaining the STEM-focused magnet.

Is it really retaining its existing program? And they are placing two criteria based programs at BCC and Whitman. Why do they want to draw high achieving students to these schools? They don't need this, they already have plenty of advanced coursework there and large high achieving cohorts.

At least for BCC, the IB program is staying there because BCC already has IB. Haven't a clue why they are sticking the humanities magnet at Whitman.

[Anonymous]

Periodic reminder that this thread is about the "Second round options for Woodward boundary study," and there are about 100 other threads for the regional programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also would view Einstein as being in the strongest Region- with powerhouses Blair, BCC and Whitman. How can that be a bad thing?

Because Einstein folks want the home school to stay strong. I have zero desire to cart my child to Whitman. Being in a region with Whitman is not a plus for me.

But it’s not just about you, PP. it’s about all the kids. Some will really benefit from the opportunity to go to Whitman, BCC, Blair or Northwood (they do have a wonderful theater program). Some will be better off staying at Einstein. Perhaps your chances of getting into Blair improve under this model too.

Placing highly qualified teachers in wealthy schools and siphoning off high achieving students (but only the ones with cars or that can swing a long commute) from low income schools does not help all kids. On the contrary it helps a small number of kids and hurts the majority.

+100

Locating the most rigorous, most sought-after programs in the highest SES schools, as they're doing in Region 1 (not sure about the others) is so backwards.

? Blair is retaining the STEM-focused magnet.

Is it really retaining its existing program? And they are placing two criteria based programs at BCC and Whitman. Why do they want to draw high achieving students to these schools? They don't need this, they already have plenty of advanced coursework there and large high achieving cohorts.

At least for BCC, the IB program is staying there because BCC already has IB. Haven't a clue why they are sticking the humanities magnet at Whitman.

That's not a reason. It sounds like the IB program at BCC is effectively serving the local students and will do fine if there is a magnet placed elsewhere. Why make it a magnet? They can keep their IB at the local level. I assure you there are few Whitman students clamoring to do IB at BCC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also would view Einstein as being in the strongest Region- with powerhouses Blair, BCC and Whitman. How can that be a bad thing?

Because Einstein folks want the home school to stay strong. I have zero desire to cart my child to Whitman. Being in a region with Whitman is not a plus for me.

But it’s not just about you, PP. it’s about all the kids. Some will really benefit from the opportunity to go to Whitman, BCC, Blair or Northwood (they do have a wonderful theater program). Some will be better off staying at Einstein. Perhaps your chances of getting into Blair improve under this model too.

Placing highly qualified teachers in wealthy schools and siphoning off high achieving students (but only the ones with cars or that can swing a long commute) from low income schools does not help all kids. On the contrary it helps a small number of kids and hurts the majority.

+100

Locating the most rigorous, most sought-after programs in the highest SES schools, as they're doing in Region 1 (not sure about the others) is so backwards.

Blair is tied with Einstein in terms of FARMS % for attending students, and well below Northwood. And is already very rich in course offerings.
? Blair is retaining the STEM-focused magnet.

are you trying to say that Blair and Einstein are high SES schools in Region 1? huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Periodic reminder that this thread is about the "Second round options for Woodward boundary study," and there are about 100 other threads for the regional programs.

The boundary study and program analysis are inextricably connected. The universe will implode of they are so much as discussed separately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also would view Einstein as being in the strongest Region- with powerhouses Blair, BCC and Whitman. How can that be a bad thing?

Because Einstein folks want the home school to stay strong. I have zero desire to cart my child to Whitman. Being in a region with Whitman is not a plus for me.

But it’s not just about you, PP. it’s about all the kids. Some will really benefit from the opportunity to go to Whitman, BCC, Blair or Northwood (they do have a wonderful theater program). Some will be better off staying at Einstein. Perhaps your chances of getting into Blair improve under this model too.

Placing highly qualified teachers in wealthy schools and siphoning off high achieving students (but only the ones with cars or that can swing a long commute) from low income schools does not help all kids. On the contrary it helps a small number of kids and hurts the majority.

+100

Locating the most rigorous, most sought-after programs in the highest SES schools, as they're doing in Region 1 (not sure about the others) is so backwards.

Not exactly, but Region 1 places the 3 most rigorous academic criteria-based magnets at the schools that are currently 6% FARMS, 23% FARMS, and 39.6% FARMS (Blair), instead of
Einstein (39.4% FARMS) or Northwood (52.1% FARMS).

Blair is tied with Einstein in terms of FARMS % for attending students, and well below Northwood. And is already very rich in course offerings.
? Blair is retaining the STEM-focused magnet.

are you trying to say that Blair and Einstein are high SES schools in Region 1? huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also would view Einstein as being in the strongest Region- with powerhouses Blair, BCC and Whitman. How can that be a bad thing?

Because Einstein folks want the home school to stay strong. I have zero desire to cart my child to Whitman. Being in a region with Whitman is not a plus for me.

But it’s not just about you, PP. it’s about all the kids. Some will really benefit from the opportunity to go to Whitman, BCC, Blair or Northwood (they do have a wonderful theater program). Some will be better off staying at Einstein. Perhaps your chances of getting into Blair improve under this model too.

Placing highly qualified teachers in wealthy schools and siphoning off high achieving students (but only the ones with cars or that can swing a long commute) from low income schools does not help all kids. On the contrary it helps a small number of kids and hurts the majority.

+100

Locating the most rigorous, most sought-after programs in the highest SES schools, as they're doing in Region 1 (not sure about the others) is so backwards.

Not exactly, but Region 1 places the 3 most rigorous academic criteria-based magnets at the schools that are currently 6% FARMS, 23% FARMS, and 39.6% FARMS (Blair), instead of
Einstein (39.4% FARMS) or Northwood (52.1% FARMS).

Blair is tied with Einstein in terms of FARMS % for attending students, and well below Northwood. And is already very rich in course offerings.
? Blair is retaining the STEM-focused magnet.

are you trying to say that Blair and Einstein are high SES schools in Region 1? huh?

Not exactly, but Region 1 places the 3 most rigorous academic criteria-based magnets at the schools that are currently 6% FARMS, 23% FARMS, and 39.6% FARMS (Blair), instead of
Einstein (39.4% FARMS) or Northwood (52.1% FARMS).

[Anonymous]

Doesn't Blair's current FARMS rate reflect the DCC and countywide magnet? Without these, the FARMS rate will certainly go up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't Blair's current FARMS rate reflect the DCC and countywide magnet? Without these, the FARMS rate will certainly go up.

Yes, part of that reflects the demographics of students transferring in vs in-bound residents. But keeping the STEM magnet at Blair (which I don't oppose, actually) will also have that effect even when it's only taking the high-performing students in Region 1.

What I think is the most perverse is the placement of the IB and humanities magnets at BCC and Whitman. Whitman especially being the least-central geographically feels like just giving an already well-off school its own local program.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parents will do the math here. Are the programs good. Are the schools safe. Can my kid participate in what he wants to (eg soccer or student government ). Will this help him get into Harvard or Yale. Does my kid want a change of scenery from being around the same kids since kindergarten.

Some will leave Whitman or BCC, I assure you. I think you’re being really pessimistic to assume they will not.

Just look at the current stats. Fewer than 10 Whitman students attend a countywide magnet at RMIB and 19 attend a countywide magnet at Blair. These are highly competitive well established programs. Those families are not sending their kids to lower income schools now and you think they are going to send them to less competitive programs in the DCC?

These programs are actually quite hard for Whitman kids to get into, as they have a gifted cohort of students at Whitman.