Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vaccine mandates are a clear government power grab: the shut down and other mitigation policies are arbitrary and declaring the need for emergency powers makes no sense given the mortality rate of covid.

Please answer how you can justify the war on drugs and the creation of the DEA? How is that not much more of a “power grab” by the government? Why is THAT not your rallying cry but vaccines are?

NP. Current government isn’t enforcing any DEA law at the border.

Lies and snark are all you guys have. I dare you to try to cross the border with a cannabis plant in your car.

I notice none of you right wingers can explain this obvious contradiction. It’s almost like it’s not about “freedom” at all and really about culture war values and fascism.

Exactly. The commoner can’t cross with a cannabis plant yet the cartels cross with impunity, bringing in drugs, children for sex trafficking, and other illegal cargo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with all these cries for freedom is that the people calling for it don’t even understand it. In a society, freedom is not absolute - when does your freedom impinge on mine? Further, various freedoms oftentimes conflict. So, while it’s fine to protest, these truckers don’t have the right to indefinitely shutdown a city or a primary bridge because doing so deprives others of their rights, economic and otherwise.

I just have to ask.....

Did you take the same stance during the protests and riots of the summer of 2020? Or, were those "righteous" and "good" and therefore, the closing of a highway or businesses are just the cost of supporting the cause?

DP.

1) they were protesting a murder by police
2) they were protesting. The rioting and fires etc were generally set by right wingers
3) they lasted a day here and a day there. It wasn't a sustained seige, except in portland and seattle where it turns out, yep, right wingers again.

1) maybe some of them were at least initially
2) cray cray conspiracy stuff
3) same

Looter Vuitton agrees with you. This was no innocent summer of love, and the looting continues

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with all these cries for freedom is that the people calling for it don’t even understand it. In a society, freedom is not absolute - when does your freedom impinge on mine? Further, various freedoms oftentimes conflict. So, while it’s fine to protest, these truckers don’t have the right to indefinitely shutdown a city or a primary bridge because doing so deprives others of their rights, economic and otherwise.

Seriously think about the bolded. What right do you have to force labor?

If you don't want to work, then don't. But that doesn't give you the right to block a public street for weeks on end because you don't want to work.

What do you think happens when the truckers stop rolling?

Other truckers will pick up the slack these cowards left behind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with all these cries for freedom is that the people calling for it don’t even understand it. In a society, freedom is not absolute - when does your freedom impinge on mine? Further, various freedoms oftentimes conflict. So, while it’s fine to protest, these truckers don’t have the right to indefinitely shutdown a city or a primary bridge because doing so deprives others of their rights, economic and otherwise.

Seriously think about the bolded. What right do you have to force labor?

If you don't want to work, then don't. But that doesn't give you the right to block a public street for weeks on end because you don't want to work.

What do you think happens when the truckers stop rolling?

Other truckers will pick up the slack these cowards left behind.

Ah the oh so brave keyboard warrior calling men cowards. Pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccine mandates are a clear government power grab: the shut down and other mitigation policies are arbitrary and declaring the need for emergency powers makes no sense given the mortality rate of covid.

Please answer how you can justify the war on drugs and the creation of the DEA? How is that not much more of a “power grab” by the government? Why is THAT not your rallying cry but vaccines are?

NP. Current government isn’t enforcing any DEA law at the border.

Lies and snark are all you guys have. I dare you to try to cross the border with a cannabis plant in your car.

I notice none of you right wingers can explain this obvious contradiction. It’s almost like it’s not about “freedom” at all and really about culture war values and fascism.

Exactly. The commoner can’t cross with a cannabis plant yet the cartels cross with impunity, bringing in drugs, children for sex trafficking, and other illegal cargo.

Cartels have an entire DEA that exists to shut them down. Impunity? Do you really believe this? Delusional.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with all these cries for freedom is that the people calling for it don’t even understand it. In a society, freedom is not absolute - when does your freedom impinge on mine? Further, various freedoms oftentimes conflict. So, while it’s fine to protest, these truckers don’t have the right to indefinitely shutdown a city or a primary bridge because doing so deprives others of their rights, economic and otherwise.

Seriously think about the bolded. What right do you have to force labor?

If you don't want to work, then don't. But that doesn't give you the right to block a public street for weeks on end because you don't want to work.

What do you think happens when the truckers stop rolling?

Other truckers will pick up the slack these cowards left behind.

Ah the oh so brave keyboard warrior calling men cowards. Pathetic.

At least I can get a shot and wear a mask and not flip out over it and make other peoples' lives miserable about it. You don't need to drive an 18 wheeler to be brave. In fact, sometimes that's just a cover up for the wretched coward inside.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with all these cries for freedom is that the people calling for it don’t even understand it. In a society, freedom is not absolute - when does your freedom impinge on mine? Further, various freedoms oftentimes conflict. So, while it’s fine to protest, these truckers don’t have the right to indefinitely shutdown a city or a primary bridge because doing so deprives others of their rights, economic and otherwise.

Seriously think about the bolded. What right do you have to force labor?

If you don't want to work, then don't. But that doesn't give you the right to block a public street for weeks on end because you don't want to work.

What do you think happens when the truckers stop rolling?

Other truckers will pick up the slack these cowards left behind.

Ah the oh so brave keyboard warrior calling men cowards. Pathetic.

Putting children in the front lines to make the police look like the bad guy is the definition of a coward but keep typing on your keyboard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:WTF is wrong with America? Why are we discussing a group of goons who protested a policy in their country?

Maybe BCS Canadians are so snotty about the U.S? And the Trumpers and the 6th of January? Do you know that some of my Canadian friends asked me if I voted for Trump and told me that they could not see me if I did? That they are so civilized while some Americans were clearly nasty, racists?
And explained to me how horrified they were about what was happening in the U.S? And how terribly the U.S. was handling the pandemic when they were doing so awesome? Yep, they need to get off their high and mighty judgy horse.

AND?

The Trump lunatics storming the capitols has 59 pages and this one 69? What country do you care about? Yes, Jan 6th was way way more horrible and you should care more for that one in case you want to live in a functioning democracy than what Canada and Mexico is doing...

There’s a much bigger thread started on January 6 that’s 200+ pages. Plus many others. The one you’re talking about is just about the Congressional committee that’s investigating.

The fencing has returned around the Capitol. (The Truckers are coming to DC.)

You know these violent protesters in Ottawa? That had huge trailer truck and semis parked right in front of their Parliament? Yeah, so violent they are. I bet you American truckers will have some idea of what they can demolish with their trucks!

I can demolish a lot with my own SUV. I don’t. So no violence.

Hence my point. You choose not to as did they. I doubt those that think January 6th was just a joke share your pacifist behaviors.

Can you show me the video of the truckers demolishing anything, including Parliament?

No coffee yet for you?That is my point they did not demolish anything. But, what if some in the U.S. are not so peaceful? They stormed the Capitol on foot, after all!

[Anonymous]

Large protest movements who plan to be in DC must apply for permission for a special event. Why? Because while protesting is a right, it is not an unqualified one. That is, the right to protest doesn’t supersede every other right for every other person. Other people in the city want to do other things. The point is, protests always must take place within the bounds of recognizing other rights and other people’s rights. There is no right to shutdown the world because you want to. That is not freedom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Large protest movements who plan to be in DC must apply for permission for a special event. Why? Because while protesting is a right, it is not an unqualified one. That is, the right to protest doesn’t supersede every other right for every other person. Other people in the city want to do other things. The point is, protests always must take place within the bounds of recognizing other rights and other people’s rights. There is no right to shutdown the world because you want to. That is not freedom.

I prefer the truckers’ approach. Screw your rules, we’re in charge. We will put the bounce house right over there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Large protest movements who plan to be in DC must apply for permission for a special event. Why? Because while protesting is a right, it is not an unqualified one. That is, the right to protest doesn’t supersede every other right for every other person. Other people in the city want to do other things. The point is, protests always must take place within the bounds of recognizing other rights and other people’s rights. There is no right to shutdown the world because you want to. That is not freedom.

Hear, hear! I'd rather strain under the yoke of Trudeau than strain under the yoke of a III%er racist redneck trucker.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Large protest movements who plan to be in DC must apply for permission for a special event. Why? Because while protesting is a right, it is not an unqualified one. That is, the right to protest doesn’t supersede every other right for every other person. Other people in the city want to do other things. The point is, protests always must take place within the bounds of recognizing other rights and other people’s rights. There is no right to shutdown the world because you want to. That is not freedom.

I prefer the truckers’ approach. Screw your rules, we’re in charge. We will put the bounce house right over there.

Your approach is anarchy, not freedom. It is brute force over the law. You may like that approach now, but when it turns against you, who will you call? The police? Maybe you should respect society’s boundaries even when you wish they were otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Large protest movements who plan to be in DC must apply for permission for a special event. Why? Because while protesting is a right, it is not an unqualified one. That is, the right to protest doesn’t supersede every other right for every other person. Other people in the city want to do other things. The point is, protests always must take place within the bounds of recognizing other rights and other people’s rights. There is no right to shutdown the world because you want to. That is not freedom.

I prefer the truckers’ approach. Screw your rules, we’re in charge. We will put the bounce house right over there.

Your approach is anarchy, not freedom. It is brute force over the law. You may like that approach now, but when it turns against you, who will you call? The police? Maybe you should respect society’s boundaries even when you wish they were otherwise.

If Canada was in the business of respecting society’s boundaries, the protest would have been unnecessary in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Large protest movements who plan to be in DC must apply for permission for a special event. Why? Because while protesting is a right, it is not an unqualified one. That is, the right to protest doesn’t supersede every other right for every other person. Other people in the city want to do other things. The point is, protests always must take place within the bounds of recognizing other rights and other people’s rights. There is no right to shutdown the world because you want to. That is not freedom.

I prefer the truckers’ approach. Screw your rules, we’re in charge. We will put the bounce house right over there.

Your approach is anarchy, not freedom. It is brute force over the law. You may like that approach now, but when it turns against you, who will you call? The police? Maybe you should respect society’s boundaries even when you wish they were otherwise.

If Canada was in the business of respecting society’s boundaries, the protest would have been unnecessary in the first place.

The protest was unneccessary.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if these “truckers” will convert to trumpist in prison?