If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else noticing the schizophrenic nature of the messages we are receiving right now?

On the one hand, we're going to get free EXTRA PROTECTIVE MASKS from the government.

On the other hand, we're being told that masks in school are unnecessary and rules for masking will be prohibitted.

Is it any wonder the U.S. spends 90% of its energy chasing its tail... while countries like China that have a singular message are going to surpass us. We can't decide to go up or down. China's leadership says "go up!" and that's what happens. I'm not saying that we need to be like China in all things. But, there IS an advantage to having ONE MESSAGE and then carrying out the plan vs. bickering for years about where to go and never going anywhere.

The mixed messages re: YOU NEED BETTER MASKS vs. PUT THOSE STUPID MASKS AWAY is really too much.

I think they are actually complimentary. Use better masks so you can protect yourself because the cloth mask method of reducing output to protect others doesn’t work with omicron.

Using cloth masks everywhere was born out of the lack of protective masks. I remember when people weren’t allowed to wear the vented N95 because it would expel unmitigated germs out but protect the wearer.

Now people can protect themselves, so not everyone needs to wear a mask. It’s amazing most don’t know why we started wearing masks in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else noticing the schizophrenic nature of the messages we are receiving right now?

On the one hand, we're going to get free EXTRA PROTECTIVE MASKS from the government.

On the other hand, we're being told that masks in school are unnecessary and rules for masking will be prohibitted.

Is it any wonder the U.S. spends 90% of its energy chasing its tail... while countries like China that have a singular message are going to surpass us. We can't decide to go up or down. China's leadership says "go up!" and that's what happens. I'm not saying that we need to be like China in all things. But, there IS an advantage to having ONE MESSAGE and then carrying out the plan vs. bickering for years about where to go and never going anywhere.

The mixed messages re: YOU NEED BETTER MASKS vs. PUT THOSE STUPID MASKS AWAY is really too much.

I think they are actually complimentary. Use better masks so you can protect yourself because the cloth mask method of reducing output to protect others doesn’t work with omicron.

Using cloth masks everywhere was born out of the lack of protective masks. I remember when people weren’t allowed to wear the vented N95 because it would expel unmitigated germs out but protect the wearer.

Now people can protect themselves, so not everyone needs to wear a mask. It’s amazing most don’t know why we started wearing masks in the first place.

But most kids are not wearing N-95s but rather surgical masks which are okay, but not perfect, and more viable for smaller faces and easier for breathing etc. Spread is still most contained when everyone wears a mask in an indoor setting where people stay for extended times.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else noticing the schizophrenic nature of the messages we are receiving right now?

On the one hand, we're going to get free EXTRA PROTECTIVE MASKS from the government.

On the other hand, we're being told that masks in school are unnecessary and rules for masking will be prohibitted.

Is it any wonder the U.S. spends 90% of its energy chasing its tail... while countries like China that have a singular message are going to surpass us. We can't decide to go up or down. China's leadership says "go up!" and that's what happens. I'm not saying that we need to be like China in all things. But, there IS an advantage to having ONE MESSAGE and then carrying out the plan vs. bickering for years about where to go and never going anywhere.

The mixed messages re: YOU NEED BETTER MASKS vs. PUT THOSE STUPID MASKS AWAY is really too much.

I think they are actually complimentary. Use better masks so you can protect yourself because the cloth mask method of reducing output to protect others doesn’t work with omicron.

Using cloth masks everywhere was born out of the lack of protective masks. I remember when people weren’t allowed to wear the vented N95 because it would expel unmitigated germs out but protect the wearer.

Now people can protect themselves, so not everyone needs to wear a mask. It’s amazing most don’t know why we started wearing masks in the first place.

But most kids are not wearing N-95s but rather surgical masks which are okay, but not perfect, and more viable for smaller faces and easier for breathing etc. Spread is still most contained when everyone wears a mask in an indoor setting where people stay for extended times.

But they can. And they should if they are concerned. That’s part of the reason why they are shipping out 400m N95s. So that people can protect themselves from omicron because the cloth masks don’t work well.

But let me get this straight. My kid has to wear a mask because some other vaccinated kid is uncomfortable in their N95 mask?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The teachers will need to suck it up, unfortunately. They can wear N95 masks and distance themselves from kids without masks. I would get an air cleaner and run it throughout the day.

My sister is an elementary teacher in PA and has had to deal with this during the entire pandemic. The mask mandate was dropped right when Omicron reared its ugly head. The principal of her school has been wearing a face shield, no mask since COVID broke out. Teachers gather with no masks on and take selfies that they publish on Facebook and lots have been out sick with COVID. She was told that she couldn't force the kids to wear masks or to wear them properly over their noses. She invested in some KN95 masks. So far she hasn't contracted COVID even though kids come to school sick with fevers, coughing, sneezing and with runny noses everywhere.

Are all the teachers dropping dead or filling the hospitals? Are have they all quit yet? We’ve been told here that’s what will happen so I want to know what actually happened in an area where mask mandates were ended……

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Anonymous wrote:This is the thing I am dreading. Luckily, most of my kids have upped their masks to either KN95 and/or double masks and I can tell my families take this seriously. I am all for having a metric to get rid if masks. A set number based off community spread. Now, in Jan during this craziness is not the time. There will be lawsuits and teachers quitting left and right. It will be a mess.

Wait, what? Community spread is meaningless with such a mild variant.

My otherwise healthy nephew (2 years old) is hospitalized right now with covid. He's part of a growing trend.

My otherwise healthy nephew died after his second shot.

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Anonymous wrote:Most parents I know will let their kids get rid of the masks once FCPS says its OK.

And most parents I know wear KN95s everywhere, and their kids do too.

Strange, and we both live in the same county.

I was in the supermarket today and about a third of the employees had ditched the masks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The teachers will need to suck it up, unfortunately. They can wear N95 masks and distance themselves from kids without masks. I would get an air cleaner and run it throughout the day.

My sister is an elementary teacher in PA and has had to deal with this during the entire pandemic. The mask mandate was dropped right when Omicron reared its ugly head. The principal of her school has been wearing a face shield, no mask since COVID broke out. Teachers gather with no masks on and take selfies that they publish on Facebook and lots have been out sick with COVID. She was told that she couldn't force the kids to wear masks or to wear them properly over their noses. She invested in some KN95 masks. So far she hasn't contracted COVID even though kids come to school sick with fevers, coughing, sneezing and with runny noses everywhere.

Are all the teachers dropping dead or filling the hospitals? Are have they all quit yet? We’ve been told here that’s what will happen so I want to know what actually happened in an area where mask mandates were ended……

DP who has family members in Pennsylvania who are retired educators. I don't know about your other questions, but yes, PA is facing a teacher shortage and recently changed its certification process in an attempt to address it. The number of new in state teacher certs is down by something like 60% over the past ten years with a sharp deceleration in the past two years from what I understand. Certain areas have also had schools go virtual for 1-2 weeks due to no subs.

[Anonymous]

Go ahead and keep arguing all you want.

The HS kids have voted, regardless of what some of their parents are telling them to do. They were already wearing their masks much better than before when we got back from break, presumably because of the surge, and they've been basically stellar the last two days. I even saw a few in the hallways who were double masked, which I don't recall seeing before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go ahead and keep arguing all you want.

The HS kids have voted, regardless of what some of their parents are telling them to do. They were already wearing their masks much better than before when we got back from break, presumably because of the surge, and they've been basically stellar the last two days. I even saw a few in the hallways who were double masked, which I don't recall seeing before.

+1 This is the case at our MS too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Go ahead and keep arguing all you want.

The HS kids have voted, regardless of what some of their parents are telling them to do. They were already wearing their masks much better than before when we got back from break, presumably because of the surge, and they've been basically stellar the last two days. I even saw a few in the hallways who were double masked, which I don't recall seeing before.

+1 This is the case at our MS too.

My MSer reports the same. High school students in NYC walked out over lax safety protocols in their schools. I could see the same thing happening in Arlington and Fairfax Counties and probably parts of Loudoun too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Go ahead and keep arguing all you want.

The HS kids have voted, regardless of what some of their parents are telling them to do. They were already wearing their masks much better than before when we got back from break, presumably because of the surge, and they've been basically stellar the last two days. I even saw a few in the hallways who were double masked, which I don't recall seeing before.

+1 This is the case at our MS too.

My MSer reports the same. High school students in NYC walked out over lax safety protocols in their schools. I could see the same thing happening in Arlington and Fairfax Counties and probably parts of Loudoun too.

Meanwhile the elementary are over it and keep asking how much longer they have to mask. Most sane parents I know who are able to rationalize risk no longer want their young kids masked and are quite aware of the fact many other nations have not masked their youngest kids and been just fine. Some kids have spent 1/3 or more of their lives masking now. We were watching an older movie over the weekend and my first grader remarked on the fact that people in a crowd were not masked. He asked me if that was what it used to be like “back in the 1900s.” But yet all along we’ve treated children as young as 2 the same as MS and HS kids even though they are at a very different developmental stage and risk. It’s utter stupidity.

[Anonymous]

Masks are the only reason Omicron isn’t spreading at all. . .

oh wait. .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go ahead and keep arguing all you want.

The HS kids have voted, regardless of what some of their parents are telling them to do. They were already wearing their masks much better than before when we got back from break, presumably because of the surge, and they've been basically stellar the last two days. I even saw a few in the hallways who were double masked, which I don't recall seeing before.

+1 This is the case at our MS too.

My MSer reports the same. High school students in NYC walked out over lax safety protocols in their schools. I could see the same thing happening in Arlington and Fairfax Counties and probably parts of Loudoun too.

Meanwhile the elementary are over it and keep asking how much longer they have to mask. Most sane parents I know who are able to rationalize risk no longer want their young kids masked and are quite aware of the fact many other nations have not masked their youngest kids and been just fine. Some kids have spent 1/3 or more of their lives masking now. We were watching an older movie over the weekend and my first grader remarked on the fact that people in a crowd were not masked. He asked me if that was what it used to be like “back in the 1900s.” But yet all along we’ve treated children as young as 2 the same as MS and HS kids even though they are at a very different developmental stage and risk. It’s utter stupidity.

Actually what you're describing suggests that your first grader is totally fine with masks and is surprised there was a time when people didn't wear them. You're just clutching your pearls and reading drama where there isn't any.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else noticing the schizophrenic nature of the messages we are receiving right now?

On the one hand, we're going to get free EXTRA PROTECTIVE MASKS from the government.

On the other hand, we're being told that masks in school are unnecessary and rules for masking will be prohibitted.

Is it any wonder the U.S. spends 90% of its energy chasing its tail... while countries like China that have a singular message are going to surpass us. We can't decide to go up or down. China's leadership says "go up!" and that's what happens. I'm not saying that we need to be like China in all things. But, there IS an advantage to having ONE MESSAGE and then carrying out the plan vs. bickering for years about where to go and never going anywhere.

The mixed messages re: YOU NEED BETTER MASKS vs. PUT THOSE STUPID MASKS AWAY is really too much.

I think they are actually complimentary. Use better masks so you can protect yourself because the cloth mask method of reducing output to protect others doesn’t work with omicron.

Using cloth masks everywhere was born out of the lack of protective masks. I remember when people weren’t allowed to wear the vented N95 because it would expel unmitigated germs out but protect the wearer.

Now people can protect themselves, so not everyone needs to wear a mask. It’s amazing most don’t know why we started wearing masks in the first place.

Meanwhile….Britain and Israel just eliminated the mask mandates in their countries because, based on science, have proven not to work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you people think it is about pandemic? Covid-shmovid, who cares.

This is about the school boards loosing control and giving it to the PARENTS. Boards will fight tooth and nail.

And if the majority of parents want all kids to mask? This is about giving control to a certain subset of parents at the expense of the majority of parents

If majority of patents want their own kids masked then they will be.

The EO doesn’t propose forcing all children to breathe freely and see each other smile.

If the teachers are still wearing masks, and most of the students are still wearing masks (in the real world, most children in this area still will), whose smiles will they be seeing?

Those of free, well adapted, and healthy kids living without fear.

Masks represent love for the community well-being during a surge of a contagious virus, not fear.

Forcing masks on a population who is least at risk is based on fearful self interest…not love.