BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

[Anonymous]

Mr. emotional,

Please do not attempt to add words, sentences, nouns, pronouns, and or adjectives to what I said. Your attempt to bait me has failed again. I provided facts. Nothing more.

5 DA players were on the market and none of them decided on WS DA.

Talking about these players is irrelevant other than to say that WS will not have an influx of players knocking down their doors. Mostly due to poor performance.

Again, sucess speaks for itself. It's the #1 recruiting tool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mr. emotional,

Please do not attempt to add words, sentences, nouns, pronouns, and or adjectives to what I said. Your attempt to bait me has failed again. I provided facts. Nothing more.

5 DA players were on the market and none of them decided on WS DA.

Talking about these players is irrelevant other than to say that WS will not have an influx of players knocking down their doors. Mostly due to poor performance.

Again, sucess speaks for itself. It's the #1 recruiting tool. [/quote)

Mr "Rational":

Wouldn't want to add anything to your post. But you spelled "success" wrong.

The Spirit players at Loudoun LEFT Spirit. So of course they didn't stay at Spirit. So really you're saying that two DA players who were cut by FCV didn't go to Spirit and instead went to Loudoun. Why must you insist it had anything to do with Club record? For all 5, couldn't it be something like "I grew up at Loudoun on a powerhouse Loudoun Red team but then last year at U14 I didn't made FCV and didn't play/got cut, or didn't make the DA at FCV (whether because I wasn't good enough or politics -- both are always possible) and McLean/other clubs were too far. So maybe I went to Spirit. I'm in 8th grade (or 7th) so why not. Higher level of play than I would have at Loudoun Red U14, and I can see what happens." Then presto, Loudoun gets ECNL. "Perfect, now I can go back to the club I grew up with, practice three miles from my house, and play HS which I really want to do." Even if I liked it at Spirit, that's compelling. If I didn't because I didn't like the roster size, my play time, the position they put me in, or a million other reasons, then hooray for me, I have another option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mr. emotional,

Please do not attempt to add words, sentences, nouns, pronouns, and or adjectives to what I said. Your attempt to bait me has failed again. I provided facts. Nothing more.

5 DA players were on the market and none of them decided on WS DA.

Talking about these players is irrelevant other than to say that WS will not have an influx of players knocking down their doors. Mostly due to poor performance.

Again, sucess speaks for itself. It's the #1 recruiting tool.

So success is the number one recruiting and your proof of that is 5 FCV players left a team that is currently undefeated to join a team at Loudoun that went 5-9. Got it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mr. emotional,

Please do not attempt to add words, sentences, nouns, pronouns, and or adjectives to what I said. Your attempt to bait me has failed again. I provided facts. Nothing more.

5 DA players were on the market and none of them decided on WS DA.

Talking about these players is irrelevant other than to say that WS will not have an influx of players knocking down their doors. Mostly due to poor performance.

Again, sucess speaks for itself. It's the #1 recruiting tool.

The only fact is that 5 players went to Loudoun the why they went is speculation. You say it is because of Spirit’s performance, it should be easy for you to prove that to be the factual reason why 5 kids chose a club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mr. emotional,

Please do not attempt to add words, sentences, nouns, pronouns, and or adjectives to what I said. Your attempt to bait me has failed again. I provided facts. Nothing more.

5 DA players were on the market and none of them decided on WS DA.

Talking about these players is irrelevant other than to say that WS will not have an influx of players knocking down their doors. Mostly due to poor performance.

Again, sucess speaks for itself. It's the #1 recruiting tool.

The only fact is that 5 players went to Loudoun the why they went is speculation. You say it is because of Spirit’s performance, it should be easy for you to prove that to be the factual reason why 5 kids chose a club.

To be clear, if we continue to talk about 2004, only three DA players went from Spirit to Loudoun. The other two being discussed must have come from FCV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mr. emotional,

Please do not attempt to add words, sentences, nouns, pronouns, and or adjectives to what I said. Your attempt to bait me has failed again. I provided facts. Nothing more.

5 DA players were on the market and none of them decided on WS DA.

Talking about these players is irrelevant other than to say that WS will not have an influx of players knocking down their doors. Mostly due to poor performance.

Again, sucess speaks for itself. It's the #1 recruiting tool.

The only fact is that 5 players went to Loudoun the why they went is speculation. You say it is because of Spirit’s performance, it should be easy for you to prove that to be the factual reason why 5 kids chose a club.

To be clear, if we continue to talk about 2004, only three DA players went from Spirit to Loudoun. The other two being discussed must have come from FCV.

And one DA player left Spirit to go to McLean ECNL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Complete fantasy opinion posted above. The rostering at WSVA is similar to other DAs. Readers can review game reports on the US Soccer DA site to compare. Obsessed poster is irrationally upset with a particular playup, which in their mind equates to “parental influence” even though such influence is not evident to others.

NP. -

What few people understand is that WS has been given an exemption on roster sizes due to being a startup. Per DA rules, a U15 team can only have 20 full time players (18 can dress per game). However, the U15 team has 23 full time players (Check their team page). Most coaches will tell you that 20 full time is too many and counter productive to development...especially when the DA level of talent ended at about players 7-11 on the roster. Additionally, EDP players sometime play on the DA team. I assure you, this is not happening at any other DA in the country.

Losing does not attract talent. Larry may be able to revamp the Academy at the younger ages (05 and below) but the 04's and above will be a significant hurdle because the 04 and above kids (9th grade and above) are in the middle of college recruitment years. Very few, if any, talented kids will be looking to leave their teams for WS. However, the opposite may be true.

This is why Arlington doesn't have full DA. This is why VDA struggles at the older age groups, etc.

You are misinformed. The DA rules state that "each club's roster may average no more than 24 players across each age group." Further restrictions are that they may have no less than 14 FT players, and no more than 10 PT players, but there is no requirement that they have any PT players at all. So clubs could have 24 FT players per age group. They could even have more than 24 in some age groups, as long as they had less in others, so the average was no more than 24. You are correct that the game roster cannot exceed 18.

The only way players on the EDP team could play in an official DA match is if they are rostered as PT players. FT players are not allowed to play competition outside the DA, and non-rostered players are ineligible to play in official matches.

There are other DAs who use the PT rule to allow some of their U16s to play most of their games with the U16 team but also get some game time with the U16/U17 DA team.

The DA rules are here if you want to read them: https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

[Anonymous]

Spirit will never "fully fund" the girls' DA, unless US Soccer dumps a ton of money into DA as a whole. Spirit can barely provide player salaries that are a living wage. Instead, they're asking for random families to house players. The first money that comes into the professional game ought to go to the professional players, not youth programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mr. emotional,

Please do not attempt to add words, sentences, nouns, pronouns, and or adjectives to what I said. Your attempt to bait me has failed again. I provided facts. Nothing more.

5 DA players were on the market and none of them decided on WS DA.

Talking about these players is irrelevant other than to say that WS will not have an influx of players knocking down their doors. Mostly due to poor performance.

Again, sucess speaks for itself. It's the #1 recruiting tool.

The only fact is that 5 players went to Loudoun the why they went is speculation. You say it is because of Spirit’s performance, it should be easy for you to prove that to be the factual reason why 5 kids chose a club.

To be clear, if we continue to talk about 2004, only three DA players went from Spirit to Loudoun. The other two being discussed must have come from FCV.

And one DA player left Spirit to go to McLean ECNL.

And one went to Bethesda. And one to BRYC. If you look at the game history, many of them did not play as many minutes as they may have wanted -- rightly or wrongly, and they chose to go. Good for them. So what. I find it funny that on one hand posters want to point out how bad the talent at Spirit is, state that the players couldn't make it to any other club, etc., and on the other hand, they want to point out how terrible it is that these players left Spirit to go to other clubs -- where they were considered talented enough and wanted. Can't have it both ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Spirit will never "fully fund" the girls' DA, unless US Soccer dumps a ton of money into DA as a whole. Spirit can barely provide player salaries that are a living wage. Instead, they're asking for random families to house players. The first money that comes into the professional game ought to go to the professional players, not youth programs.

Nobody has disagreed with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Complete fantasy opinion posted above. The rostering at WSVA is similar to other DAs. Readers can review game reports on the US Soccer DA site to compare. Obsessed poster is irrationally upset with a particular playup, which in their mind equates to “parental influence” even though such influence is not evident to others.

NP. -

What few people understand is that WS has been given an exemption on roster sizes due to being a startup. Per DA rules, a U15 team can only have 20 full time players (18 can dress per game). However, the U15 team has 23 full time players (Check their team page). Most coaches will tell you that 20 full time is too many and counter productive to development...especially when the DA level of talent ended at about players 7-11 on the roster. Additionally, EDP players sometime play on the DA team. I assure you, this is not happening at any other DA in the country.

Losing does not attract talent. Larry may be able to revamp the Academy at the younger ages (05 and below) but the 04's and above will be a significant hurdle because the 04 and above kids (9th grade and above) are in the middle of college recruitment years. Very few, if any, talented kids will be looking to leave their teams for WS. However, the opposite may be true.

This is why Arlington doesn't have full DA. This is why VDA struggles at the older age groups, etc.

You are misinformed. The DA rules state that "each club's roster may average no more than 24 players across each age group." Further restrictions are that they may have no less than 14 FT players, and no more than 10 PT players, but there is no requirement that they have any PT players at all. So clubs could have 24 FT players per age group. They could even have more than 24 in some age groups, as long as they had less in others, so the average was no more than 24. You are correct that the game roster cannot exceed 18.

The only way players on the EDP team could play in an official DA match is if they are rostered as PT players. FT players are not allowed to play competition outside the DA, and non-rostered players are ineligible to play in official matches.

There are other DAs who use the PT rule to allow some of their U16s to play most of their games with the U16 team but also get some game time with the U16/U17 DA team.

The DA rules are here if you want to read them: https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

You also don't understand what "exemption" means either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mr. emotional,

Please do not attempt to add words, sentences, nouns, pronouns, and or adjectives to what I said. Your attempt to bait me has failed again. I provided facts. Nothing more.

5 DA players were on the market and none of them decided on WS DA.

Talking about these players is irrelevant other than to say that WS will not have an influx of players knocking down their doors. Mostly due to poor performance.

Again, sucess speaks for itself. It's the #1 recruiting tool.

The only fact is that 5 players went to Loudoun the why they went is speculation. You say it is because of Spirit’s performance, it should be easy for you to prove that to be the factual reason why 5 kids chose a club.

To be clear, if we continue to talk about 2004, only three DA players went from Spirit to Loudoun. The other two being discussed must have come from FCV.

And one DA player left Spirit to go to McLean ECNL.

And one went to Bethesda. And one to BRYC. If you look at the game history, many of them did not play as many minutes as they may have wanted -- rightly or wrongly, and they chose to go. Good for them. So what. I find it funny that on one hand posters want to point out how bad the talent at Spirit is, state that the players couldn't make it to any other club, etc., and on the other hand, they want to point out how terrible it is that these players left Spirit to go to other clubs -- where they were considered talented enough and wanted. Can't have it both ways.

How could they? Last year's roster was massive as well. I

Some of the older players left for large rosters as wellan including starters. It's not always about minutes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Complete fantasy opinion posted above. The rostering at WSVA is similar to other DAs. Readers can review game reports on the US Soccer DA site to compare. Obsessed poster is irrationally upset with a particular playup, which in their mind equates to “parental influence” even though such influence is not evident to others.

NP. -

What few people understand is that WS has been given an exemption on roster sizes due to being a startup. Per DA rules, a U15 team can only have 20 full time players (18 can dress per game). However, the U15 team has 23 full time players (Check their team page). Most coaches will tell you that 20 full time is too many and counter productive to development...especially when the DA level of talent ended at about players 7-11 on the roster. Additionally, EDP players sometime play on the DA team. I assure you, this is not happening at any other DA in the country.

Losing does not attract talent. Larry may be able to revamp the Academy at the younger ages (05 and below) but the 04's and above will be a significant hurdle because the 04 and above kids (9th grade and above) are in the middle of college recruitment years. Very few, if any, talented kids will be looking to leave their teams for WS. However, the opposite may be true.

This is why Arlington doesn't have full DA. This is why VDA struggles at the older age groups, etc.

You are misinformed. The DA rules state that "each club's roster may average no more than 24 players across each age group." Further restrictions are that they may have no less than 14 FT players, and no more than 10 PT players, but there is no requirement that they have any PT players at all. So clubs could have 24 FT players per age group. They could even have more than 24 in some age groups, as long as they had less in others, so the average was no more than 24. You are correct that the game roster cannot exceed 18.

The only way players on the EDP team could play in an official DA match is if they are rostered as PT players. FT players are not allowed to play competition outside the DA, and non-rostered players are ineligible to play in official matches.

There are other DAs who use the PT rule to allow some of their U16s to play most of their games with the U16 team but also get some game time with the U16/U17 DA team.

The DA rules are here if you want to read them: https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

You also don't understand what "exemption" means either.

Hey WSVA guy, tell us one more time why a training environment with 28 players is good for development.

And by the way, the 06 WSVA is 0-8 with some incredibly lopsided results and the 05 team is 1-8-2. The 04 and 02 standings are posted and by the looks of the goal differentials those teams are significantly behind their peers as well. Beside the posters here telling us that everything is going to plan, what metric should we using to measure this alleged development that is happening?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mr. emotional,

Please do not attempt to add words, sentences, nouns, pronouns, and or adjectives to what I said. Your attempt to bait me has failed again. I provided facts. Nothing more.

5 DA players were on the market and none of them decided on WS DA.

Talking about these players is irrelevant other than to say that WS will not have an influx of players knocking down their doors. Mostly due to poor performance.

Again, sucess speaks for itself. It's the #1 recruiting tool.

The only fact is that 5 players went to Loudoun the why they went is speculation. You say it is because of Spirit’s performance, it should be easy for you to prove that to be the factual reason why 5 kids chose a club.

To be clear, if we continue to talk about 2004, only three DA players went from Spirit to Loudoun. The other two being discussed must have come from FCV.

And one DA player left Spirit to go to McLean ECNL.

And one went to Bethesda. And one to BRYC. If you look at the game history, many of them did not play as many minutes as they may have wanted -- rightly or wrongly, and they chose to go. Good for them. So what. I find it funny that on one hand posters want to point out how bad the talent at Spirit is, state that the players couldn't make it to any other club, etc., and on the other hand, they want to point out how terrible it is that these players left Spirit to go to other clubs -- where they were considered talented enough and wanted. Can't have it both ways.

How could they? Last year's roster was massive as well. I

Some of the older players left for large rosters as wellan including starters. It's not always about minutes.

The point is people change clubs all the time for many different reasons. People left Spirit and others joined. Explain that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Complete fantasy opinion posted above. The rostering at WSVA is similar to other DAs. Readers can review game reports on the US Soccer DA site to compare. Obsessed poster is irrationally upset with a particular playup, which in their mind equates to “parental influence” even though such influence is not evident to others.

NP. -

What few people understand is that WS has been given an exemption on roster sizes due to being a startup. Per DA rules, a U15 team can only have 20 full time players (18 can dress per game). However, the U15 team has 23 full time players (Check their team page). Most coaches will tell you that 20 full time is too many and counter productive to development...especially when the DA level of talent ended at about players 7-11 on the roster. Additionally, EDP players sometime play on the DA team. I assure you, this is not happening at any other DA in the country.

Losing does not attract talent. Larry may be able to revamp the Academy at the younger ages (05 and below) but the 04's and above will be a significant hurdle because the 04 and above kids (9th grade and above) are in the middle of college recruitment years. Very few, if any, talented kids will be looking to leave their teams for WS. However, the opposite may be true.

This is why Arlington doesn't have full DA. This is why VDA struggles at the older age groups, etc.

You are misinformed. The DA rules state that "each club's roster may average no more than 24 players across each age group." Further restrictions are that they may have no less than 14 FT players, and no more than 10 PT players, but there is no requirement that they have any PT players at all. So clubs could have 24 FT players per age group. They could even have more than 24 in some age groups, as long as they had less in others, so the average was no more than 24. You are correct that the game roster cannot exceed 18.

The only way players on the EDP team could play in an official DA match is if they are rostered as PT players. FT players are not allowed to play competition outside the DA, and non-rostered players are ineligible to play in official matches.

There are other DAs who use the PT rule to allow some of their U16s to play most of their games with the U16 team but also get some game time with the U16/U17 DA team.

The DA rules are here if you want to read them: https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

You also don't understand what "exemption" means either.

Hey WSVA guy, tell us one more time why a training environment with 28 players is good for development.

And by the way, the 06 WSVA is 0-8 with some incredibly lopsided results and the 05 team is 1-8-2. The 04 and 02 standings are posted and by the looks of the goal differentials those teams are significantly behind their peers as well. Beside the posters here telling us that everything is going to plan, what metric should we using to measure this alleged development that is happening?

You sound rather triggered and emotional.