Labor Sec. Acosta accused of helping Jeffrey Epstein beat sex trafficking charges

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Anonymous wrote:Date this videotaped interview aired: Nov. 4, 2016. Days before the 2016 election.
Not curious at all, is it?


It was the end of an incredibly strange case that featured an anonymous plaintiff who had refused almost all requests for interviews, two anonymous corroborating witnesses whom no one in the press had spoken to, and a couple of seriously shady characters — with an anti-Trump agenda and a penchant for drama — who had aggressively shopped the story around to media outlets for over a year.

Those shady characters — a former reality TV producer who calls himself “Al Taylor” and a “Never Trump” conservative activist named Steve Baer — had been mostly unsuccessful in getting the media to bite. There are a few very good reasons for that, which the Huffington Post’s Ryan Grim succinctly summed up: Taylor and Baer have been really sketchy about the whole thing, and since the accuser is anonymous, journalists can’t do anything to verify her claims. The only journalist who has actually interviewed Johnson, Emily Shugerman at Revelist, came away confused and even doubting whether Johnson really exists.

The lawsuit Johnson filed in New York was actually her second attempt to sue Trump and Epstein. The first was in California in April of this year, a claim Johnson filed herself that got thrown out on technical grounds — she’d filed a civil rights suit, but failed to actually state an applicable civil rights claim.

There were a couple of odd things about that lawsuit. The address listed on court documents as Johnson’s was actually a foreclosed, abandoned home, and the phone number was disconnected. Maybe Johnson was just using a fake address because she was homeless; she was, after all, also described as being indigent. But it’s fishy.

The lawsuit also described details that were so lurid — “almost cinematic in their depravity,” as Jezebel’s Anna Merlan put it — that they’re almost hard to believe. Some of those details were omitted from the second lawsuit, the New York Daily News reported:

Gone from the new lawsuit is an allegation that Trump threw money at the plaintiff for an abortion when she expressed fear about getting pregnant after being raped. Gone, too, is the allegation that Trump called co-defendant and accused pedophile and sex party host Jeffrey Epstein a “Jew bastard,” and her request for $100 million in damages.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation

No it’s completely believable.


Thank you for posting this. The woman is a loon.


Vox article is the devil’s handmaiden?


So if liberal media is debunking her, but liberal media is fake, does that mean she's telling the truth?


Most people don't believe that story pp but Donald has done plenty apart from that to warrant our disgust.

If you want to litigate Katie Johnson start your own thread. Jeffrey Epstein's guilt is not really in question. Stop questioning the accounts of victims in a thread that is primarily about a child sex trafficker, have some decency


A liberal started posting about the 13 year old rape victim that no journalist has ever seen or detective interviewed.


Last time I checked two wrongs don't make a right. One of those foundational lessons we learn as children.


How about don’t bear false witness? Any lessons for people who lie about rape?



Save me from the stupidity.


Also from the facts.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Date this videotaped interview aired: Nov. 4, 2016. Days before the 2016 election.
Not curious at all, is it?


It was the end of an incredibly strange case that featured an anonymous plaintiff who had refused almost all requests for interviews, two anonymous corroborating witnesses whom no one in the press had spoken to, and a couple of seriously shady characters — with an anti-Trump agenda and a penchant for drama — who had aggressively shopped the story around to media outlets for over a year.

Those shady characters — a former reality TV producer who calls himself “Al Taylor” and a “Never Trump” conservative activist named Steve Baer — had been mostly unsuccessful in getting the media to bite. There are a few very good reasons for that, which the Huffington Post’s Ryan Grim succinctly summed up: Taylor and Baer have been really sketchy about the whole thing, and since the accuser is anonymous, journalists can’t do anything to verify her claims. The only journalist who has actually interviewed Johnson, Emily Shugerman at Revelist, came away confused and even doubting whether Johnson really exists.

The lawsuit Johnson filed in New York was actually her second attempt to sue Trump and Epstein. The first was in California in April of this year, a claim Johnson filed herself that got thrown out on technical grounds — she’d filed a civil rights suit, but failed to actually state an applicable civil rights claim.

There were a couple of odd things about that lawsuit. The address listed on court documents as Johnson’s was actually a foreclosed, abandoned home, and the phone number was disconnected. Maybe Johnson was just using a fake address because she was homeless; she was, after all, also described as being indigent. But it’s fishy.

The lawsuit also described details that were so lurid — “almost cinematic in their depravity,” as Jezebel’s Anna Merlan put it — that they’re almost hard to believe. Some of those details were omitted from the second lawsuit, the New York Daily News reported:

Gone from the new lawsuit is an allegation that Trump threw money at the plaintiff for an abortion when she expressed fear about getting pregnant after being raped. Gone, too, is the allegation that Trump called co-defendant and accused pedophile and sex party host Jeffrey Epstein a “Jew bastard,” and her request for $100 million in damages.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation

No it’s completely believable.


Thank you for posting this. The woman is a loon.


Vox article is the devil’s handmaiden?


So if liberal media is debunking her, but liberal media is fake, does that mean she's telling the truth?


Most people don't believe that story pp but Donald has done plenty apart from that to warrant our disgust.

If you want to litigate Katie Johnson start your own thread. Jeffrey Epstein's guilt is not really in question. Stop questioning the accounts of victims in a thread that is primarily about a child sex trafficker, have some decency


A liberal started posting about the 13 year old rape victim that no journalist has ever seen or detective interviewed.


Last time I checked two wrongs don't make a right. One of those foundational lessons we learn as children.


How about don’t bear false witness? Any lessons for people who lie about rape?


That person hasn't been spamming the last 5 pages with this bull.

And I never said it was a commandment. You've been bearing plenty of false witnessing yourself about the other victims.

Pp who keeps calling trump a pedo I think you should cool it too without real evidence, and because this is off topic.
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^ Agree. This thread is about Acosta and Epstein. People are taking it way off topic.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Date this videotaped interview aired: Nov. 4, 2016. Days before the 2016 election.
Not curious at all, is it?


It was the end of an incredibly strange case that featured an anonymous plaintiff who had refused almost all requests for interviews, two anonymous corroborating witnesses whom no one in the press had spoken to, and a couple of seriously shady characters — with an anti-Trump agenda and a penchant for drama — who had aggressively shopped the story around to media outlets for over a year.

Those shady characters — a former reality TV producer who calls himself “Al Taylor” and a “Never Trump” conservative activist named Steve Baer — had been mostly unsuccessful in getting the media to bite. There are a few very good reasons for that, which the Huffington Post’s Ryan Grim succinctly summed up: Taylor and Baer have been really sketchy about the whole thing, and since the accuser is anonymous, journalists can’t do anything to verify her claims. The only journalist who has actually interviewed Johnson, Emily Shugerman at Revelist, came away confused and even doubting whether Johnson really exists.

The lawsuit Johnson filed in New York was actually her second attempt to sue Trump and Epstein. The first was in California in April of this year, a claim Johnson filed herself that got thrown out on technical grounds — she’d filed a civil rights suit, but failed to actually state an applicable civil rights claim.

There were a couple of odd things about that lawsuit. The address listed on court documents as Johnson’s was actually a foreclosed, abandoned home, and the phone number was disconnected. Maybe Johnson was just using a fake address because she was homeless; she was, after all, also described as being indigent. But it’s fishy.

The lawsuit also described details that were so lurid — “almost cinematic in their depravity,” as Jezebel’s Anna Merlan put it — that they’re almost hard to believe. Some of those details were omitted from the second lawsuit, the New York Daily News reported:

Gone from the new lawsuit is an allegation that Trump threw money at the plaintiff for an abortion when she expressed fear about getting pregnant after being raped. Gone, too, is the allegation that Trump called co-defendant and accused pedophile and sex party host Jeffrey Epstein a “Jew bastard,” and her request for $100 million in damages.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation

No it’s completely believable.


Thank you for posting this. The woman is a loon.


Vox article is the devil’s handmaiden?


So if liberal media is debunking her, but liberal media is fake, does that mean she's telling the truth?


Most people don't believe that story pp but Donald has done plenty apart from that to warrant our disgust.

If you want to litigate Katie Johnson start your own thread. Jeffrey Epstein's guilt is not really in question. Stop questioning the accounts of victims in a thread that is primarily about a child sex trafficker, have some decency


A liberal started posting about the 13 year old rape victim that no journalist has ever seen or detective interviewed.


Last time I checked two wrongs don't make a right. One of those foundational lessons we learn as children.


How about don’t bear false witness? Any lessons for people who lie about rape?


That person hasn't been spamming the last 5 pages with this bull.

And I never said it was a commandment. You've been bearing plenty of false witnessing yourself about the other victims.

Pp who keeps calling trump a pedo I think you should cool it too without real evidence, and because this is off topic.


Every article about Katie Johnson has been linked and cited. The articles are from Vox and Daily Beast.

It’s not spam and it’s not bull. People here just say bull and ignore the facts.
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^ Agree. This thread is about Acosta and Epstein. People are taking it way off topic.



But is PP saying the claims against Epstein are false? That’s not being argued! We are arguing the ridiculous punishment (sweetheart deal) he got. That’s what is being disputed.
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^ Agree. This thread is about Acosta and Epstein. People are taking it way off topic.




Report off topic posts, please!
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Anonymous wrote:The Palm Beach investigators and cops are NOT happy about this presser.


Then, the state's attorney who had this case needs to face the press.


Ask and ye shall receive

https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1149078131317379073



I love that everyone is just letting Acosta skate. That bat crap crazy presser was, what, yesterday? And we’re all acting like he isn’t clearly compromised or a sociopath.
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More than a dozen new victims have come forward.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article232551882.html
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Palm Beach investigators and cops are NOT happy about this presser.


Then, the state's attorney who had this case needs to face the press.


Ask and ye shall receive

https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1149078131317379073



I love that everyone is just letting Acosta skate. That bat crap crazy presser was, what, yesterday? And we’re all acting like he isn’t clearly compromised or a sociopath.


What are you talking about? Maybe Republicans are letting him skate, but Democrats are calling for his resignation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Palm Beach investigators and cops are NOT happy about this presser.


Then, the state's attorney who had this case needs to face the press.


Ask and ye shall receive

https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1149078131317379073



I love that everyone is just letting Acosta skate. That bat crap crazy presser was, what, yesterday? And we’re all acting like he isn’t clearly compromised or a sociopath.


What are you talking about? Maybe Republicans are letting him skate, but Democrats are calling for his resignation.

Yeah, how’s that worked out for us in the last two-ish crime filled years* of this hellscape? Id like to see some of these crooks actually punished in accordance with accepted guidelines, not just fired by tv or dan scavino or whatever that fat orange menace is doing it these days.

*no, trumpster geniuses, this plea deal was not within the last two years. Acosta working for Donald was.
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Anonymous wrote:How did Epstein make so much money?


Wail street financier


Not true. This was investigated by journalists. No one on Wall Street does business with his company; he doesn't have prime brokerage accounts with any of them. So he's definitely not buying/selling/trading securities or in the derivative markets. This area is supposed to be his expertise, but he's not participating in it.

Journalists discovered that Epstein - somehow - controls and manages the wealth of Les Wexler, the billionaire owner of Limited clothing brands. But it's not clear what he does with that wealth. Further, Wexler is "only" worth $2-3bn so that wouldn't make Epstein a billionaire.

My guess is that Epstein is like Trump: he pretends he has more money than he does. He collects dirt on others, sells that dirt, and stiffs people to whom he owes money. My guess is that Epstein collects blackmail against wealthy individuals, shakes them down for money, and sells the blackmail to the mafia and foreign intelligence agencies. That would explain his hidden cameras found in his homes.


“There’s another guy who reminds me of Madoff that no one trades with.” That man was Jeffrey Epstein”

“Given this puzzling set of data points, the hedge-fund managers we spoke to leaned toward the theory that Epstein was running a blackmail scheme under the cover of a hedge fund.”
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/07/hedge-funders-have-some-thoughts-on-what-epstein-was-doing.html?utm_source=fb&fbclid=IwAR1sAri4K3w9Yfjd16GV3a7B2fg2S9zWGw7ndHJe3D2sPXIVG0-MBXtipIk&__twitter_impression=true
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Palm Beach investigators and cops are NOT happy about this presser.


Then, the state's attorney who had this case needs to face the press.


Ask and ye shall receive

https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1149078131317379073



I love that everyone is just letting Acosta skate. That bat crap crazy presser was, what, yesterday? And we’re all acting like he isn’t clearly compromised or a sociopath.


What are you talking about? Maybe Republicans are letting him skate, but Democrats are calling for his resignation.

Yeah, how’s that worked out for us in the last two-ish crime filled years* of this hellscape? Id like to see some of these crooks actually punished in accordance with accepted guidelines, not just fired by tv or dan scavino or whatever that fat orange menace is doing it these days.

*no, trumpster geniuses, this plea deal was not within the last two years. Acosta working for Donald was.


What ability do they have to punish him when they only control one half of one branch of government?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The Palm Beach investigators and cops are NOT happy about this presser.


Then, the state's attorney who had this case needs to face the press.


Ask and ye shall receive

https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1149078131317379073




I love that everyone is just letting Acosta skate. That bat crap crazy presser was, what, yesterday? And we’re all acting like he isn’t clearly compromised or a sociopath.


What are you talking about? Maybe Republicans are letting him skate, but Democrats are calling for his resignation.

Yeah, how’s that worked out for us in the last two-ish crime filled years* of this hellscape? Id like to see some of these crooks actually punished in accordance with accepted guidelines, not just fired by tv or dan scavino or whatever that fat orange menace is doing it these days.

*no, trumpster geniuses, this plea deal was not within the last two years. Acosta working for Donald was.


What ability do they have to punish him when they only control one half of one branch of government?


The House can draw up the articles of impeachment for him. Then the Senate has a trial based on those articles and votes on what the punishment will be. It puts the Senate on record even if they don't remove him.
Anonymous
The apparent fact that Epstein wasn’t a “real” financier and current theory that his money was kompromat-based makes this even more interesting.

We haven’t seen FLOTUS or the elder Trump kids since this broke. I’ll bet Melania hides out for a whole lot longer than even her malingering self typically does.
Anonymous
The apparent fact that Epstein wasn’t a “real” financier and current theory that his money was kompromat-based makes this even more interesting.

We haven’t seen FLOTUS or the elder Trump kids since this broke. I’ll bet Melania hides out for a whole lot longer than even her malingering self typically does.


Yep. I'm sure if you took a poll and asked each person whether abetting pedophilia is something they would approve of, most people (like 100%) would say no.
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