Game of Thrones

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I actually didn't like the scene with Sir Davos and the Red Lady. It was just too easy. And it was not in keeping with Jon's view of justice. He hung a child because that child attempted to kill him, but he lets the Red Lady go after she admits to burning an innocent child alive? I mean, maybe you could say that he had to hang the child because the child would have continued to be a threat. But that scene just didn't sit right with me.

I also don't think Sir Davos would have let it go down that way so easily. He was ready to kill her, but he's cool with Jon just sending her away? Also, Sir Davos knows what she is capable of. He's seen her black magic. He has to know that sending her away makes her potentially more dangerous.

I thought the only reason the Red Lady was still around was because, well, she's been useful for battle and they're also pretty effin scared of her.

If they're so scared of her, then sending her away was the worst possible thing they could have done.

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I actually didn't like the scene with Sir Davos and the Red Lady. It was just too easy. And it was not in keeping with Jon's view of justice. He hung a child because that child attempted to kill him, but he lets the Red Lady go after she admits to burning an innocent child alive? I mean, maybe you could say that he had to hang the child because the child would have continued to be a threat. But that scene just didn't sit right with me.

I also don't think Sir Davos would have let it go down that way so easily. He was ready to kill her, but he's cool with Jon just sending her away? Also, Sir Davos knows what she is capable of. He's seen her black magic. He has to know that sending her away makes her potentially more dangerous.

I thought the only reason the Red Lady was still around was because, well, she's been useful for battle and they're also pretty effin scared of her.

If they're so scared of her, then sending her away was the worst possible thing they could have done.

Maybe they don't think it's possible to kill her. (It may not be.) Or that doing so would make something even worse happen.

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I think normally Jon would have gone with execution, but she did save his life after all. That's why he went with a middle ground, and I think Ser Davos probably understood that (despite his frustration and anger).

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else felt sadness about Tommen's suicide? I think the scene was shot masterfully.

Yes, it was heartbreaking. He was a genuinely sweet, naive kid.

He was giving up his own mother, for chrissakes, so not really. I mean, mom was no prize, sure, but she did love him very much.

I think that's why he did it. He was finished being controlled by Cersei. It was the only way he could win.

Yes, I agree with this. Also, he had betrayed Cersei and knew he had nothing left.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sad that Margaery is dead. I liked her character.
I'm curious as to how the information that Bran has (R+L=J) will get to the rest of Westeros. Also curious how the Night King and Walkers will get through the wall. The suggestion about Bran being touched is a good theory. Agree with other PPs that his plot line has had a lot of holes, and has become my least favorite, other than the flashbacks.

I think R+L=J will only be relevant if Bran makes it to Winterfell or if "the Dragon has three heads" and only Targs can ride them. In that case, there needs to be a third head (in the books it's speculated this is Tyrion and he's really a bastard of Joanna and Aerys).

I'm probably in the minority here, but I'd much rather see Bran warg into the third dragon. Wasn't there a scene a few seasons ago where Bran is told that he'll never walk again, but he'll fly? That could just reference the three eyed raven, but I'm hoping it means he'll fly as a dragon.

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I'm probably in the minority here, but I'd much rather see Bran warg into the third dragon. Wasn't there a scene a few seasons ago where Bran is told that he'll never walk again, but he'll fly? That could just reference the three eyed raven, but I'm hoping it means he'll fly as a dragon.

I LOVE this theory!

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I'm probably in the minority here, but I'd much rather see Bran warg into the third dragon. Wasn't there a scene a few seasons ago where Bran is told that he'll never walk again, but he'll fly? That could just reference the three eyed raven, but I'm hoping it means he'll fly as a dragon.

I LOVE this theory!

Not going to happen. Bran is the 3 eyed raven now. That's how he flies.

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OMG, that scene with Olenna and the Dorn chicks was so awesome.

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I actually didn't like the scene with Sir Davos and the Red Lady. It was just too easy. And it was not in keeping with Jon's view of justice. He hung a child because that child attempted to kill him, but he lets the Red Lady go after she admits to burning an innocent child alive? I mean, maybe you could say that he had to hang the child because the child would have continued to be a threat. But that scene just didn't sit right with me.

I also don't think Sir Davos would have let it go down that way so easily. He was ready to kill her, but he's cool with Jon just sending her away? Also, Sir Davos knows what she is capable of. He's seen her black magic. He has to know that sending her away makes her potentially more dangerous.

I thought the only reason the Red Lady was still around was because, well, she's been useful for battle and they're also pretty effin scared of her.

And didn't she rape Gendry, too? What, no justice for Gendry?

And where was Davos when Melisandre murdered Renly? And the burning of the misc Florents a few seasons ago? Was he calling for her hanging then? OR was Shirren's life worth more because she was young? or cute? or a girl?

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Anonymous wrote:Remember how when the night King touched Bran and that allowed the king to enter the cave of the three eyed Raven? Does this mean that when Bran crosses the wall the night King will be able to pass?

Oooooooo, hadn't thought of this. I did ponder how they will get past the wall when Benjen left Meera and Bran at the tree and talked to them about how the dead could not pass the Wall, but didn't think of this loophole.

It kind of bugs me that this didn't come up earlier. I mean, the children of the forest should've known that (as well as the former three-eyed raven).

They should've told Bran about being touched by the dude. It seems like a vital piece of information to leave out.

I think the entire children of the forest/bran story line is the one filled with the most holes. I mean, if the dead can't get past the wall, then there never was a problem. But now there is? I mean, Bran's visions led him beyond the wall, but if his going beyond the wall and getting touched by the night king is what enables the army of the dead to invade, then Bran isn't the solution and wasn't all along. He's the problem.

Unless the three-eyed raven and children of the forest wanted him to come out there because they want the night king to get beyond the wall. But that doesn't add up either.

If the night kind knows bran going south of the wall will enable his army to go through it, then he wouldn't have come after bran -- unless he was driving him toward the wall.

I don't know. There are too many holes with that story line. It's the most irritating part of the series.

In the books (which, let's face it, are the only thing that have internal logic, the show is great but whew, it goes off the rails a lot), there's a "Horn of Winter" that supposedly will bring the wall down if it's blown. There's a lot of fan speculation that it's the little, nondescript horn that the crows found near the fist of the First Men north of the wall (in the second season/second book). In the books, Mance claimed to have it, and it was supposedly burned with "his" body (Rattleshirt). But I think that was a red herring. There's also another fancy-dancy horn called Dragonbinder that Victarion has on his ship that he thinks will bind Dany's dragons but that COULD be the Horn of Winter.

The Winds of Winter book has a picture of a horn on it, so I think it's pretty likely this is going to be a plot point soon.

That cover is fan-made, although it fooled me and even GRRM has used it on his blog

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I actually didn't like the scene with Sir Davos and the Red Lady. It was just too easy. And it was not in keeping with Jon's view of justice. He hung a child because that child attempted to kill him, but he lets the Red Lady go after she admits to burning an innocent child alive? I mean, maybe you could say that he had to hang the child because the child would have continued to be a threat. But that scene just didn't sit right with me.

I also don't think Sir Davos would have let it go down that way so easily. He was ready to kill her, but he's cool with Jon just sending her away? Also, Sir Davos knows what she is capable of. He's seen her black magic. He has to know that sending her away makes her potentially more dangerous.

I thought the only reason the Red Lady was still around was because, well, she's been useful for battle and they're also pretty effin scared of her.

And didn't she rape Gendry, too? What, no justice for Gendry?

And where was Davos when Melisandre murdered Renly? And the burning of the misc Florents a few seasons ago? Was he calling for her hanging then? OR was Shirren's life worth more because she was young? or cute? or a girl?

He's been against Melisandre the whole time, but had to enter into an uneasy alliance with her because of Stannis. He was the one who snuck Gendry out of Dragonstone when she wanted to burn him.
Do you even watch the show?

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I actually didn't like the scene with Sir Davos and the Red Lady. It was just too easy. And it was not in keeping with Jon's view of justice. He hung a child because that child attempted to kill him, but he lets the Red Lady go after she admits to burning an innocent child alive? I mean, maybe you could say that he had to hang the child because the child would have continued to be a threat. But that scene just didn't sit right with me.

I also don't think Sir Davos would have let it go down that way so easily. He was ready to kill her, but he's cool with Jon just sending her away? Also, Sir Davos knows what she is capable of. He's seen her black magic. He has to know that sending her away makes her potentially more dangerous.

I thought the only reason the Red Lady was still around was because, well, she's been useful for battle and they're also pretty effin scared of her.

And didn't she rape Gendry, too? What, no justice for Gendry?

And where was Davos when Melisandre murdered Renly? And the burning of the misc Florents a few seasons ago? Was he calling for her hanging then? OR was Shirren's life worth more because she was young? or cute? or a girl?

He's been against Melisandre the whole time, but had to enter into an uneasy alliance with her because of Stannis. He was the one who snuck Gendry out of Dragonstone when she wanted to burn him.
Do you even watch the show?

Yes, but I don't recall him screaming about the murder of Renly and the Florents the way he did about Shireen. Perhaps he feels like he has a better shot with Jon than he did with Stannis, but he was still the manly midwife to the creepy shadow baby.

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I actually didn't like the scene with Sir Davos and the Red Lady. It was just too easy. And it was not in keeping with Jon's view of justice. He hung a child because that child attempted to kill him, but he lets the Red Lady go after she admits to burning an innocent child alive? I mean, maybe you could say that he had to hang the child because the child would have continued to be a threat. But that scene just didn't sit right with me.

I also don't think Sir Davos would have let it go down that way so easily. He was ready to kill her, but he's cool with Jon just sending her away? Also, Sir Davos knows what she is capable of. He's seen her black magic. He has to know that sending her away makes her potentially more dangerous.

I thought the only reason the Red Lady was still around was because, well, she's been useful for battle and they're also pretty effin scared of her.

And didn't she rape Gendry, too? What, no justice for Gendry?

And where was Davos when Melisandre murdered Renly? And the burning of the misc Florents a few seasons ago? Was he calling for her hanging then? OR was Shirren's life worth more because she was young? or cute? or a girl?

He's been against Melisandre the whole time, but had to enter into an uneasy alliance with her because of Stannis. He was the one who snuck Gendry out of Dragonstone when she wanted to burn him.
Do you even watch the show?

Yes, but I don't recall him screaming about the murder of Renly and the Florents the way he did about Shireen. Perhaps he feels like he has a better shot with Jon than he did with Stannis, but he was still the manly midwife to the creepy shadow baby.

Renly was actively engaged in war. He was an adult. Huge difference between his death and burning an innocent child at the stake; being female and cute has nothing to do with it. He also--admittedly--loved her like his own child, so it makes sense that he'd be more upset about her death than that of Renly.