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Anonymous
I think time will tell whether Joga has the right approach. I look forward to seeing how these current U9s-U11s develop and where they go, and whether they stay with the program or dump it (or whether Joga dumps them when someone better comes along). |
Anonymous
I think they also have troubles defending against quality teams as well. But what can you do, they are young and there is a lot to learn. |
Anonymous
Heavy recruiting, tons of tournaments, set positions, overtraining have all been done before. It's nothing revolutionary. Parents will figure it out, kids will get burned out, or KF will pull a Hitt. |
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Anonymous
For Joga specifically, they train better than they compete in games. While a coach may be a great trainer, that doesn't make the coach a great game manager. It takes a different type of understanding of the game to manage a match than it does to train. |
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"Heavy recruiting, tons of tournaments, set positions, overtraining have all been done before. It's nothing revolutionary. Parents will figure it out, kids will get burned out, or KF will pull a Hitt."
Are you sure he recruits? I mean 100% sure? KF called a parent or spoke to a parent and asked them to bring their child to train with him. Are you sure this happened? and "heavily" none the less. How many do you know of? "tons of tournaments" Do you know the last tournament they participated in? The one before that? How many games have you watched to see the positional rotation? Do they really only play one position? Really? Overtraining? What is the definition of overtraining? Overtraining in your mind or whose mind? How often do they train? Sounds like you are bitter about something and just slinging crap. |
Anonymous
If you want to see possession with a purpose, go watch the rising U12 Bethesda Blue team. Possession and 118-1 goal differential last season - and it could have been more. So tell me why the top boys teams in Bethesda are so strong year after year? Luck? Something in the water? Why is that something in the water not helping the girls teams? It comes down to training and not just recruiting the fastest and biggest kids at U9. |
Anonymous
Not the poster you responded to but one thing is for sure about Joga (and some others)...they are gaming the GotSoccer system for points to aid in recruiting. Take a look at the U11 tournament points they accumulated in the last year but put themselves in the U12 rankings. So while KF rails on the "system", he is using to benefit himself. |
Anonymous
What does Bethesda teach at U9, U10, U11 that is different that what McLean, Alexandria, or Arlington does (nothing against those clubs)? What's the secret in their training? Also, are you saying the Bethesda boys are doing well but not the girls? If so, are you saying that they are training the boys better? I got confused there. Thanks. How many kids show up to tryout at Bethesda by the way at U9, U10, U11, etc? |
Anonymous
| How is the training at Bethesda South compared to Bethesda? Is Bethesda South only for training or do they have teams that compete in a league? |
Anonymous
Well, the most talented kid from our NoVA team last year went to Bethesda this year. So I think to a certain degree it's success drawing the top players regionally. |
Anonymous
Their teams compete in Virginia. It's not Bethesda, but it's not bad. The arrogance of it bothers me a little. I think some smaller club like Reston or Gunston should announce a "Reston North" program just for fun. |
Anonymous
What does this mean, to "pull a Hitt"? To set assist records at UVA? |
Anonymous
The training at Bethesda is good, but it helps that they cannibalize MSI (the largest youth soccer organization in the area) and pretty much anyone else in Montgomery county. They get their pick of the biggest, quickest, fastest, most technical U8 players and then give them very good training. They have had 6 teams per age groups for the past few years, which is amazing for a club with no rec program. JC and the staff there have come a long way in the past ~10 years. historically Bethesda was always the place to be in MD outside of Baltimore, no real competition on Montgomery or PG county. They even draw from across the river in McLean and vienna. Now that they have the DA, they will be the big swinging *ick in boys soccer for the immediate future - numbers, coaches, reputation, highest level playing opportunities. They also have a little more travel friendly setup, as they are a travel only club - no back and forth with house concerns, etc, at the leadership level. |
Anonymous
I have a high-school aged boy who has been playing at Bethesda for many years. We've been very happy with the experience on balance and think it is a great club for a serious player or for someone who wants to improve their technique. I can't say for sure why the club is so successful on the boys' side, but here are a few things that have stood out for me compared to our experience at other local clubs: Most of their coaches are true soccer (football) guys—they live and breathe the game. They have an out of town residential camp each year, and a number of the coaches go for two weeks. I always have the sense that the coaches are at least as excited as the boys are to be playing soccer all day every day. Also, several of them played for the youth or senior national teams of their countries and can speak with more authority about the game than the average American coach. This quality is very attractive to knowledgeable soccer parents (many of them international), who then bring their (already ahead of the curve because they come from sophisticated soccer families) children to the club. They focus relentlessly on proper technique from an early age. There is a club-wide emphasis on foot skills and playing possession soccer, and a number of the coaches are truly evangelical about it. I have posted before about our experience when my son joined Bethesda as a U9. The coach was obsessed with making sure he started playing soccer properly instead of relying on his above average speed and strength. If he tried to beat a player with speed or knock him off the ball, the coach would scream at him to stop, saying "Use your moves!" The club loves athletes (esp. fast ones--they don't care about size at all that, I've noticed), but wants to make sure they don't rely on their athletic gifts to their detriment as players. They set expectations high for what kids can do (it never would have crossed my mind that an 8 year old's juggling record could go from 0-200 in a few months, or up into the thousands after a couple of years), and push them to do their best in practices and games. They talk about the successful older teams to the younger ones, and will often let the little kids sit on or near the bench at the older kids' games. This really helps develop camaraderie and makes it feel more like a club than a random grouping of teams. I could go on, but these are a few things that came to mind. I certainly have some complaints about the club too, though I think they are the same ones I'd have at any big club. I'm not as familiar with the girls program at Bethesda, but I think it's pretty different from the boys. The two sides seem to operate independently of each other. |