Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

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Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

The CR was already agreed to and the covid subsidies were not included in that, in fact that was passed a while back, why do they think bringing it up now it in any way valid to the prior passed agreement?

Its like singing to buy a house and you pass all inspections and consessions and then someone brings up they don't like the color of the floors and want to delay signing and include that.

GOP spin.. Obviously there was NOT sufficient agreement to leave the subsidies out, or we wouldn't have a shutdown problem.

It already passed this is not accurate. In fact I am all for a law that avoids shutdowns for both sides of the have nothing to do with passing a clean budget. This time democrats throw in random stuff to shutdown next time republicans will throw in 10 billion to the military budget. It's really dumb it's not getting anywhere and the public can see it. Doesn't make sense, I don't want to pay the power bill because I am not happy with the water bill

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do not[u] understand why the Democrats don't just let the tax credit expire and let the Republicans get crushed when their constituents see their insurance costs soar!! Please someone explain this to me!

Republicans only care about the wealthy (corporations and people). They'll hold the middle and lower classes hostage to get concessions - corporate welfare or tax breaks. Then the Republicans will turn on their media hype machine to blame Dems for any pain their constituents felt. R constituents will fall for it hook, line, and sinker. Rinse and repeat.

Corporations are against the tariffs, and against Trump's immigration crackdown.

Well, they were for Trump. So, too little too late.

Corporations aren't for or against Trump. They're just willing to bend the knee to the power du jour. The Dems need to remember everything that's happened because what goes around needs to come around otherwise we have a free rider problem

2028-2030 needs to be a Dem retribution so that in 2030-2032 we can finally fix things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

The CR was already agreed to and the covid subsidies were not included in that, in fact that was passed a while back, why do they think bringing it up now it in any way valid to the prior passed agreement?

Its like singing to buy a house and you pass all inspections and consessions and then someone brings up they don't like the color of the floors and want to delay signing and include that.

Because the House back in March used the same "my way or the highway" posture that they are using now, passing their bill then refusing any negotiation with the Senate. Schumer reluctantly voted for their bill, hoping an extension to the subsidies could be worked out during the summer. That didn't happen and Dems see this as their last chance on the subsidies, given that open enrollment begins next month.

The place to extend subsidies would be in the regular appropriations bills. The House has passed nine of them out of committee. What has the Senate done?
I know it has been 15 years since they have passed regular budget bills, but they should still be able to do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

The CR was already agreed to and the covid subsidies were not included in that, in fact that was passed a while back, why do they think bringing it up now it in any way valid to the prior passed agreement?

Its like singing to buy a house and you pass all inspections and consessions and then someone brings up they don't like the color of the floors and want to delay signing and include that.

GOP spin.. Obviously there was NOT sufficient agreement to leave the subsidies out, or we wouldn't have a shutdown problem.

It already passed this is not accurate. In fact I am all for a law that avoids shutdowns for both sides of the have nothing to do with passing a clean budget. This time democrats throw in random stuff to shutdown next time republicans will throw in 10 billion to the military budget. It's really dumb it's not getting anywhere and the public can see it. Doesn't make sense, I don't want to pay the power bill because I am not happy with the water bill

If it already passed we wouldn't have a shutdown. This is like the part of the social network where he says, if you guys were the inventors of facebook, you'd have invented facebook.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

The CR was already agreed to and the covid subsidies were not included in that, in fact that was passed a while back, why do they think bringing it up now it in any way valid to the prior passed agreement?

Its like singing to buy a house and you pass all inspections and consessions and then someone brings up they don't like the color of the floors and want to delay signing and include that.

GOP spin.. Obviously there was NOT sufficient agreement to leave the subsidies out, or we wouldn't have a shutdown problem.

It already passed this is not accurate. In fact I am all for a law that avoids shutdowns for both sides of the have nothing to do with passing a clean budget. This time democrats throw in random stuff to shutdown next time republicans will throw in 10 billion to the military budget. It's really dumb it's not getting anywhere and the public can see it. Doesn't make sense, I don't want to pay the power bill because I am not happy with the water bill

If it already passed we wouldn't have a shutdown. This is like the part of the social network where he says, if you guys were the inventors of facebook, you'd have invented facebook.

Who knows what insane story PP is getting from newsmax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

The CR was already agreed to and the covid subsidies were not included in that, in fact that was passed a while back, why do they think bringing it up now it in any way valid to the prior passed agreement?

Its like singing to buy a house and you pass all inspections and consessions and then someone brings up they don't like the color of the floors and want to delay signing and include that.

Because the House back in March used the same "my way or the highway" posture that they are using now, passing their bill then refusing any negotiation with the Senate. Schumer reluctantly voted for their bill, hoping an extension to the subsidies could be worked out during the summer. That didn't happen and Dems see this as their last chance on the subsidies, given that open enrollment begins next month.

The place to extend subsidies would be in the regular appropriations bills. The House has passed nine of them out of committee. What has the Senate done?
I know it has been 15 years since they have passed regular budget bills, but they should still be able to do that.

Why would the proper place for a tax subsidy be in an appropriations bill? There usually are not tax provisions in appropriations bill so that would be out of the ordinary. In any case, there's no reason a tax subsidy cannot be in a CR. It's been done before and can be done again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

The CR was already agreed to and the covid subsidies were not included in that, in fact that was passed a while back, why do they think bringing it up now it in any way valid to the prior passed agreement?

Its like singing to buy a house and you pass all inspections and consessions and then someone brings up they don't like the color of the floors and want to delay signing and include that.

GOP spin.. Obviously there was NOT sufficient agreement to leave the subsidies out, or we wouldn't have a shutdown problem.

It already passed this is not accurate. In fact I am all for a law that avoids shutdowns for both sides of the have nothing to do with passing a clean budget. This time democrats throw in random stuff to shutdown next time republicans will throw in 10 billion to the military budget. It's really dumb it's not getting anywhere and the public can see it. Doesn't make sense, I don't want to pay the power bill because I am not happy with the water bill

Unless a bill can pass both House AND Senate, the fact that it passed in one chamber is absolutely meaningless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

The CR was already agreed to and the covid subsidies were not included in that, in fact that was passed a while back, why do they think bringing it up now it in any way valid to the prior passed agreement?

Its like singing to buy a house and you pass all inspections and consessions and then someone brings up they don't like the color of the floors and want to delay signing and include that.

GOP spin.. Obviously there was NOT sufficient agreement to leave the subsidies out, or we wouldn't have a shutdown problem.

It already passed this is not accurate. In fact I am all for a law that avoids shutdowns for both sides of the have nothing to do with passing a clean budget. This time democrats throw in random stuff to shutdown next time republicans will throw in 10 billion to the military budget. It's really dumb it's not getting anywhere and the public can see it. Doesn't make sense, I don't want to pay the power bill because I am not happy with the water bill

Unless a bill can pass both House AND Senate, the fact that it passed in one chamber is absolutely meaningless.

And this was why there were no shutdowns while Biden was president. Whether there was a Dem or GOP majority in the House, his budget bills were bipartisan and sailed through the Senate. Say what you will about Biden, he clearly understood the process of governing. The guy we have now doesn't understand anything.

[Anonymous]

MTG is saying to keep it shut down until the GOP brings back Obamacare subsidies because her adult kids will need to pay twice as much:

lol

[Anonymous]

Trump is indicating a TACO here. I guess as long as the Dems let him claim credit...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MTG is saying to keep it shut down until the GOP brings back Obamacare subsidies because her adult kids will need to pay twice as much:

lol

Good for her. I bet she leaves MAGA sometime next year, if not sooner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is indicating a TACO here. I guess as long as the Dems let him claim credit...

He’s definitely going to TACO. This is going very badly for him. Unfortunately for dems, they will never get any credit for getting these subsidies extended

[Anonymous]

I am so, so tired of the strategic stupidity of the Democrats. Why use all their political capital on an invisible win? Why not insist on reopening USAID? Or taking ICE off the streets? Stupid!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am so, so tired of the strategic stupidity of the Democrats. Why use all their political capital on an invisible win? Why not insist on reopening USAID? Or taking ICE off the streets? Stupid!!!

I'm guessing their target audience is the small town voter in a swing state, who doesn't care about USAID and maybe even supports ICE...but who definitely cares about the cost of health insurance.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so, so tired of the strategic stupidity of the Democrats. Why use all their political capital on an invisible win? Why not insist on reopening USAID? Or taking ICE off the streets? Stupid!!!

I'm guessing their target audience is the small town voter in a swing state, who doesn't care about USAID and maybe even supports ICE...but who definitely cares about the cost of health insurance.

DP. I’m guessing this is the case too, but I’m really disheartened and disgusted by what happened with USAID, and ultimately how little resistance the Dems put up to what was an illegal dismantling of an agency.