Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question:

If everyone ultimately gets back pay once this is resolved, then why isn’t the default a CR that only sustains the budget at its current rates (to ensure continued payrolls) without requiring anything by Congress?

That way any delays prompted by negotiations don’t actually impact workers. Instead, changes can be made once congress reaches agreement.

The solution seems so obvious, so please explain why this fix hasn’t been made.

Because the Democrats are trying to make things difficult. They want to make it seem like they're being strong and 'resisting' against Trump, so they are trying to drag this on as long as possible.

You didn't answer the question. This person is not asking about the current situation, but a general rule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not[u] understand why the Democrats don't just let the tax credit expire and let the Republicans get crushed when their constituents see their insurance costs soar!! Please someone explain this to me!

Republicans only care about the wealthy (corporations and people). They'll hold the middle and lower classes hostage to get concessions - corporate welfare or tax breaks. Then the Republicans will turn on their media hype machine to blame Dems for any pain their constituents felt. R constituents will fall for it hook, line, and sinker. Rinse and repeat.

Corporations are against the tariffs, and against Trump's immigration crackdown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

Both Dems and Reps want the temporary subsidy increase to continue. Once they figure out how to make that happen without the Reps having to accept the blame/credit for it, then the shutdown will end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

The CR was already agreed to and the covid subsidies were not included in that, in fact that was passed a while back, why do they think bringing it up now it in any way valid to the prior passed agreement?

Its like singing to buy a house and you pass all inspections and consessions and then someone brings up they don't like the color of the floors and want to delay signing and include that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

The CR was already agreed to and the covid subsidies were not included in that, in fact that was passed a while back, why do they think bringing it up now it in any way valid to the prior passed agreement?

Its like singing to buy a house and you pass all inspections and consessions and then someone brings up they don't like the color of the floors and want to delay signing and include that.

Because the House back in March used the same "my way or the highway" posture that they are using now, passing their bill then refusing any negotiation with the Senate. Schumer reluctantly voted for their bill, hoping an extension to the subsidies could be worked out during the summer. That didn't happen and Dems see this as their last chance on the subsidies, given that open enrollment begins next month.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

The CR was already agreed to and the covid subsidies were not included in that, in fact that was passed a while back, why do they think bringing it up now it in any way valid to the prior passed agreement?

Its like singing to buy a house and you pass all inspections and consessions and then someone brings up they don't like the color of the floors and want to delay signing and include that.

GOP spin.. Obviously there was NOT sufficient agreement to leave the subsidies out, or we wouldn't have a shutdown problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

The CR was already agreed to and the covid subsidies were not included in that, in fact that was passed a while back, why do they think bringing it up now it in any way valid to the prior passed agreement?

Its like singing to buy a house and you pass all inspections and consessions and then someone brings up they don't like the color of the floors and want to delay signing and include that.

You need to check your facts because "already agreed to" is doing A LOT of work there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

The CR was already agreed to and the covid subsidies were not included in that, in fact that was passed a while back, why do they think bringing it up now it in any way valid to the prior passed agreement?

Its like singing to buy a house and you pass all inspections and consessions and then someone brings up they don't like the color of the floors and want to delay signing and include that.

Agreed to by who? Certainly not by the democrats whose votes they wanted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

Both Dems and Reps want the temporary subsidy increase to continue. Once they figure out how to make that happen without the Reps having to accept the blame/credit for it, then the shutdown will end.

The Rs don't want the subsidy increase to continue. If they did, they would have just voted for the Democratic CR that included them.

[Anonymous]

Any time a US political party tries to govern without even remotely attempting to build consensus with the other side, they are going to be susceptible to shutdowns and filibusters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

Both Dems and Reps want the temporary subsidy increase to continue. Once they figure out how to make that happen without the Reps having to accept the blame/credit for it, then the shutdown will end.

The Rs don't want the subsidy increase to continue. If they did, they would have just voted for the Democratic CR that included them.

Look more closely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats did *not* vote to shut the government down. They voted *against* a CR that makes medical insurance financially unattainable for millions of Americans.

No, they voted against a CR that does not extend the temporary COVID subsidy increase.

Both Dems and Reps want the temporary subsidy increase to continue. Once they figure out how to make that happen without the Reps having to accept the blame/credit for it, then the shutdown will end.

The Rs don't want the subsidy increase to continue. If they did, they would have just voted for the Democratic CR that included them.

Look more closely.

Great point! They voted against the subsidy extension but they actually support it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not[u] understand why the Democrats don't just let the tax credit expire and let the Republicans get crushed when their constituents see their insurance costs soar!! Please someone explain this to me!

Republicans only care about the wealthy (corporations and people). They'll hold the middle and lower classes hostage to get concessions - corporate welfare or tax breaks. Then the Republicans will turn on their media hype machine to blame Dems for any pain their constituents felt. R constituents will fall for it hook, line, and sinker. Rinse and repeat.

Corporations are against the tariffs, and against Trump's immigration crackdown.

Well, they were for Trump. So, too little too late.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any time a US political party tries to govern without even remotely attempting to build consensus with the other side, they are going to be susceptible to shutdowns and filibusters.

Add to this any party who refuses to negotiate with the other and holds the White House, both chambers of Congress, and the Supreme Court are responsible if it comes to a shutdown.

It is not the responsibility of the minority party to bail out the majority party if they are too incompetent to govern.