Can somebody explain what's so wrong about what this man did? (dogs peeing on his plants)

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Anonymous wrote:I looked at the house on google street view and, wow, the main floor sure is a fishbowl.

I don't have a problem with the spikes, but I also don't get the landscaping scheme, or the insistence on this specific type of bush. I wouldn't be surprised if the bushes are also not well suited for the soil and moisture level of that spot. In looking up requirements for Japanese yews it seems that they max out at a zone 7...which is really pushing it in Arlington of late because this area is creeping toward being a zone 8--they may not make it irregardless of dogs peeing on them or not. I see this a lot in my neighborhood, evergreens can just up and die because the conditions aren't right for them, and it has nothing to do with dogs peeing on them since they are planted far away from the sidewalk.

So? If they are not your bushes, MYOB and be a considerate, civilized neighbor.

The point being that he is blaming dog pee for killing his bushes, and that may not be the case. Evergreen bushes are really sensitive to their environment and the specific microclimate of his yard might be why they didn't survive. They don't like hot humid climates with warm winters, and a section of yard that is directly adjacent to the sidewalk (which acts as a heat source) could be why they didn't make it. Location location location and all that.

I agree that dogs shouldn't pee on his yard, and that the spikes are fine for accomplishing that goal and that people should be responsible for their pets and children.

Think a lot of dogs go by his property. If one pees all of them pee in the same place. The medium to larger dogs can pump out some pee.

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I see nothing wrong with what he did, other than maybe choose the wrong neighborhood. IME, there are certain neighborhoods in Arlington where neighbors are particularly insufferable due to an excessive amount of entitlement. That said, if he has small children, I suggest he make note of the dog people and start potty training his kids on their lawns. I understand being neighborly as not allowing your family to pee on others’ property… and definitely not online bullying. His neighborhood clearly has a different policy, so join in!

- mom of 2 dogs & 3 kids who all pee on our own property.

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Agree - it is not just Arlington that seems somewhat saturated by entitled bullies. I feel bad for him, if he is lucky he can get out of that toxic and environment, and turn a profit for that beautiful house. The house is not my taste, and maybe the bushes are not, but that is not my business, any more than it should be any of his neighbors business. Wonder what kind of history this property had, and if that neighborhood has an unfavorable reputation that precedes that new house.

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Anonymous wrote:As a dog lover and avid gardener, the dog people are 100% in the wrong, here. Let the man keep his giant house, and inappropriate plants. If your dogs aren't going on his property to pee on his stuff, then why do the spikes even concern you? Bunch of A$$holes.[/quote]

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Nailed it. Misery loves company.

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I can't understand the neighbors, thinking that they are "plant experts", and that argument having anything to do with anything, really. He can plants whatever he wants. Nothing has to do with the other. They should not be destroying property that is not theirs. Period.

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Why is it your right to let your dog piss and crap on someone’s yard? Our neighbors unleashed dog would escape the fence and pee on my tomato plants. Of course we had been eating those cherry tomatoes not realizing that the dog was periodically doing this. When I mentioned it to them nicely, they said “he’s a dog!”

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it your right to let your dog piss and crap on someone’s yard? Our neighbors unleashed dog would escape the fence and pee on my tomato plants. Of course we had been eating those cherry tomatoes not realizing that the dog was periodically doing this. When I mentioned it to them nicely, they said “he’s a dog!”

These types of people shouldn't live in urban / suburban areas.

Doesn't matter what the owner plants in his yard, the neighbors are apparently fine with the dogs destroying it. One of our neighbors likes to let their dog take a huge crap in different driveways in the early mornings, so it doesn't surprise me what these dog owners will do.

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Anonymous wrote:He could also just put up a fence. This guy just wants to get into a fight. He is making it a bigger issue.

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Just put up a fence if you don't dogs to pee or poo in your yard.

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If it is anything like Fairfax County, if he puts up a fence, assuming it is allowed on a corner lot, those neighbors will be complaining like their world is on fire. I have seen neighbors like these call the cops over nothing, and when the cops arrived, took the (guy in a similar situation's) side. BOY, did that set the neighbors off, further - more false complaints ensued, over nothing. If they harass him enough, I hope he sues them, frankly. A lien on one or more of their houses might be nice.

This guy just landed in the wrong neighborhood. He needs people more like him. I don't think this has anything to do with the bushes, at all. I think this neighborhood is inhospitable about his new, shiny house. I bet they would not feel that way if he had some awkward add ons, maybe like they do.

A lien on the house for what exactly?

Ask your lawyers.

GTFOOH--you are a clown. A lien on their house for the dog peeing on his lawn?

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Anonymous wrote:He could also just put up a fence. This guy just wants to get into a fight. He is making it a bigger issue.

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Just put up a fence if you don't dogs to pee or poo in your yard.

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If it is anything like Fairfax County, if he puts up a fence, assuming it is allowed on a corner lot, those neighbors will be complaining like their world is on fire. I have seen neighbors like these call the cops over nothing, and when the cops arrived, took the (guy in a similar situation's) side. BOY, did that set the neighbors off, further - more false complaints ensued, over nothing. If they harass him enough, I hope he sues them, frankly. A lien on one or more of their houses might be nice.

This guy just landed in the wrong neighborhood. He needs people more like him. I don't think this has anything to do with the bushes, at all. I think this neighborhood is inhospitable about his new, shiny house. I bet they would not feel that way if he had some awkward add ons, maybe like they do.

A lien on the house for what exactly?

Ask your lawyers.

GTFOOH--you are a clown. A lien on their house for the dog peeing on his lawn?

Harassment, fool. Not the dog peeing, but the neighbors reactions to what is happening. Ie: the antagonistic neighbors who think they are flying under the radar, usually under the guise of "respectability", and/or plausible deniability, but very much are not. It may or may not pertain here. There are attorneys that specialize.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it your right to let your dog piss and crap on someone’s yard? Our neighbors unleashed dog would escape the fence and pee on my tomato plants. Of course we had been eating those cherry tomatoes not realizing that the dog was periodically doing this. When I mentioned it to them nicely, they said “he’s a dog!”

These types of people shouldn't live in urban / suburban areas.

Doesn't matter what the owner plants in his yard, the neighbors are apparently fine with the dogs destroying it. One of our neighbors likes to let their dog take a huge crap in different driveways in the early mornings, so it doesn't surprise me what these dog owners will do.

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Not only that, some neighbors think it is their God given right, because "Murica.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't understand the neighbors, thinking that they are "plant experts", and that argument having anything to do with anything, really. He can plants whatever he wants. Nothing has to do with the other. They should not be destroying property that is not theirs. Period.

100% and I am less familiar with how it works in the 'burbs, but here very many people plant in front of their homes and it is generally respected. Where I think this guy is towing the line, is that he is planting almost exactly on the line between the public sidewalk and his own personal property by planting almost right against a sidewalk. No one should destroy property that is not theirs, but he is AWFULLY close to public property. If his shrubs had survived they would have arguably been in public space. And yes, he made a horticulural mistake and seems to not have it out for dogs on shrubs but also 18 month olds picking up pebbles near his home so...not winning hearts and minds.

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Anonymous wrote:He could also just put up a fence. This guy just wants to get into a fight. He is making it a bigger issue.

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Just put up a fence if you don't dogs to pee or poo in your yard.

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If it is anything like Fairfax County, if he puts up a fence, assuming it is allowed on a corner lot, those neighbors will be complaining like their world is on fire. I have seen neighbors like these call the cops over nothing, and when the cops arrived, took the (guy in a similar situation's) side. BOY, did that set the neighbors off, further - more false complaints ensued, over nothing. If they harass him enough, I hope he sues them, frankly. A lien on one or more of their houses might be nice.

This guy just landed in the wrong neighborhood. He needs people more like him. I don't think this has anything to do with the bushes, at all. I think this neighborhood is inhospitable about his new, shiny house. I bet they would not feel that way if he had some awkward add ons, maybe like they do.

A lien on the house for what exactly?

Ask your lawyers.

GTFOOH--you are a clown. A lien on their house for the dog peeing on his lawn?

Harassment, fool. Not the dog peeing, but the neighbors reactions to what is happening. Ie: the antagonistic neighbors who think they are flying under the radar, usually under the guise of "respectability", and/or plausible deniability, but very much are not. It may or may not pertain here. There are attorneys that specialize.

Harassment? Please. You must be a lawyer.

[Anonymous]

Wait, what? Just because he lives in a denser area means others have the right to use his yard as a toilet?

Who are the lazy aholes who actually think this? Your dogs should be taken away from you, because you're clearly too irresponsible to own an animal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait, what? Just because he lives in a denser area means others have the right to use his yard as a toilet?

Who are the lazy aholes who actually think this? Your dogs should be taken away from you, because you're clearly too irresponsible to own an animal.

That's a little dramatic.

[Anonymous]

I sympathize with this guy. I bought a house on a corner lot that is heavily trafficked by dog walkers and they seem to think my yard is fair game for whatever their dogs feel like doing. No, one dog peeing on a shrub is not a big deal. But when all the neighborhood dogs come by and pee on that shrub repeatedly, day after day, one might feel the need to deter.

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Anonymous wrote:I sympathize with this guy. I bought a house on a corner lot that is heavily trafficked by dog walkers and they seem to think my yard is fair game for whatever their dogs feel like doing. No, one dog peeing on a shrub is not a big deal. But when all the neighborhood dogs come by and pee on that shrub repeatedly, day after day, one might feel the need to deter.

Or put up a fence...

[Anonymous]

Team plant guy. And I think racist here also. I would like to reach out to plant guy and say there are other ways to protect your bushes from those awful fog people.