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Anonymous wrote:So if this is starting in 2025, are they just going to make kids repeat concepts? My second grader will be starting 7th grade that year. If he's been in advanced math, working a year ahead of grade level, what's the plan?


I believe it will be a gradual implementation, with your 2nd grader losing the option for asvance math fairly soon after the plan is adopted.

Somewhere says that full implementation for all grades is either 2025 or 2026. The current 7th grade is the class of 2026.

Anyone 7th grade or lower needs to prepare to have a decimated math curriculum in the next year or two.

Another consequence is that a lot of the high school 9th and 10th grade math teachers will leave the profession if they have to teach Algebra and Geometry with all levels in one class.


There won't be classes called algebra and geometry. There will be integrated math 9 and integrated math 10, with the syllabus to be worked out. It looks like they are planning to have topics from algebra and geometry in both classes, with maybe some algebra 2 and trig as well. With all levels in once class, the teacher will probably have to either let the weaker kids fail or go really fast thru the harder topics or drop them entirely.


Such a horrible idea by people who don't care about kids or education.


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Anonymous wrote:Well, I'm one of the people referenced in the first page of posts who thought it sounded so crazy I didn't believe it. I appreciate all the links and info which I'm checking out now.

My 5th grader just moved into advanced math this year (doing the 6th grade curriculum and essentially skipping 5th grade math) and I've never seen him as engaged or excited about math. It is the first thing he tells me about each day. It would be a shame if this isn't an option any more for kids who are ready for it.

I don't see why everyone has to be in one class for the kids who are less quick with math skills to be challenged. It sounds like they want to push the lower end harder than they need to be pushed and hold back the kids who are quicker with it. Are they doing this for reading skills as well?


Please share this proposed change with anyone who will listen, particularly neighbors and families who are empty nesters or seniors.

Share with anyone who votes in Virginia.

This destruction of education standards cannot continue.

Imagine what education in Virginia will look like with 2 more years of this type of nonsense.


Yes, god forbid if more kids are doing well and not just the privileged UMC kids.


Lowering standards by significant amounts because the VA department of education does not believe in the promise or capabilites of minority children does nothing to help any child to reach their potential and is the opposite of the equity they claim to believe in.

Remember the fence drawing?

Equity means giving those kids the tools and resources to see over the fence.

It does not mean making making everyone lay on the ground then sawing down the fence so everyone reaches the same low standards.

If the VA department of education and the politicians who appointed them and set their goals do not believe in the potential of all of our students, including minority students, to rise to their full potential, and don't support giving all students in Virginia a world class education, including poor and minority children, then they do not deserve to serve another minute in office.

There is nothing more racist than assuming that because of their skin tone, children are not capable of performing at their full potential unless you lower standards for everyone else.


It's not LOWERING the standards - it's helping more kids reach the standards. Your UMC kids will still fully meet the standards.


You don't have kids or work in education in Virginia, do you?

It is most certainly lowering the standards.

Algebra 2 does not happen until 11th grade. They will not have completed or learned the lowest skill set on the SATs until after they take the SATs.

In fcps, Algebra 1 is taken in 6th-7th for the advanced kids, with geometry in 7th or 8th, and Algebra 2 in 8th or 9th. These kids are in calculis their sophomore or junior year, multivariable calculus in 11th or 12th. The new LOWERED standards eliminate the advanced math track entirely. China must be laughing with glee of the dems plan to destroy what is left of our math curriculum.


Middle of the road kids take Algebra 1 in 8th grade, geometry in 9th and Algebra 2 in 10th. The new LOWERED math standards eliminates the middle track and puts everyone on the exact same remedial track.

At our fcps high school, these new LOWERED standards negatively impact most of the students, including a lot of minority students, because the VA department of education does not believe in the capablitites of kids who have darker skin or speak with an accent. The lower standards negatively imlacts all of the students, including the students they claim to be creating the lower standards for. It is disgusting to dismantle and lower the state math curriculum under the mantle of helping minority kids, because the VA department of education does not believe in their potential to achieve greatness in academics.


That is not LOWERING the standards. That is slowing down the acceleration BEYOND the standards.

Your kid will be fine taking AP Calculus their senior year.


You don't have kids, obviously.


I have two, both gifted. One exceptionally in math. And personally I have two STEM degrees and work in STEM.

My kids will be fine to have a slightly slower rat race. AP Calc in senior year is reasonable.


AP Calc in senior year would not be reasonable under the lowered standards. They have it as an option, but kids would likely need extra classes outside school to be able to take it, or calculus itself would be a watered down class in Virginia, with the teacher having to do lots of remedial work(presumably the weaker kids would not be in here).
So the class would only be for those who absolutely want to take calculus, and their parents would arrange for them to get prep work done over the summer.
Integrated Math 10, followed by two semesters of , or perhaps more classes, selected from applications of advanced algebra, applications of trigonometry, and precalculus with a focus on functions, would not do as well as algebra 2 or algebra 2/trigonometry in 10th and precalc in 11th.
Typical students who would previously have taken calculus in 12th grade will no longer be able to do so under these revised lower standards.
The people making the standards are OK with this, as in their video they explain how calculus really isn't necessary in high school.


How does that affect college readiness? I get that it calc isn’t offered at your HS it isn’t offered and (hopefully) won’t be held against the student in college admissions, but what about overall readiness? HS instruction is FAR better than college instruction at the Calc 1 level - in HS you’ll have a teacher who knows how to, well, teach; in college you’ll have a TA writing equations on a white board for an hour. I don’t see how kids who are planning to major in a STEM field where Calc+ is required will be properly prepared for college if they can’t take a HS Calc class. Makes no sense.


China's communist leaders must be giddy with joy watching our leaders systematically destroy education.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, I'm one of the people referenced in the first page of posts who thought it sounded so crazy I didn't believe it. I appreciate all the links and info which I'm checking out now.

My 5th grader just moved into advanced math this year (doing the 6th grade curriculum and essentially skipping 5th grade math) and I've never seen him as engaged or excited about math. It is the first thing he tells me about each day. It would be a shame if this isn't an option any more for kids who are ready for it.

I don't see why everyone has to be in one class for the kids who are less quick with math skills to be challenged. It sounds like they want to push the lower end harder than they need to be pushed and hold back the kids who are quicker with it. Are they doing this for reading skills as well?


Please share this proposed change with anyone who will listen, particularly neighbors and families who are empty nesters or seniors.

Share with anyone who votes in Virginia.

This destruction of education standards cannot continue.

Imagine what education in Virginia will look like with 2 more years of this type of nonsense.


Yes, god forbid if more kids are doing well and not just the privileged UMC kids.


Lowering standards by significant amounts because the VA department of education does not believe in the promise or capabilites of minority children does nothing to help any child to reach their potential and is the opposite of the equity they claim to believe in.

Remember the fence drawing?

Equity means giving those kids the tools and resources to see over the fence.

It does not mean making making everyone lay on the ground then sawing down the fence so everyone reaches the same low standards.

If the VA department of education and the politicians who appointed them and set their goals do not believe in the potential of all of our students, including minority students, to rise to their full potential, and don't support giving all students in Virginia a world class education, including poor and minority children, then they do not deserve to serve another minute in office.

There is nothing more racist than assuming that because of their skin tone, children are not capable of performing at their full potential unless you lower standards for everyone else.


It's not LOWERING the standards - it's helping more kids reach the standards. Your UMC kids will still fully meet the standards.


You don't have kids or work in education in Virginia, do you?

It is most certainly lowering the standards.

Algebra 2 does not happen until 11th grade. They will not have completed or learned the lowest skill set on the SATs until after they take the SATs.

In fcps, Algebra 1 is taken in 6th-7th for the advanced kids, with geometry in 7th or 8th, and Algebra 2 in 8th or 9th. These kids are in calculis their sophomore or junior year, multivariable calculus in 11th or 12th. The new LOWERED standards eliminate the advanced math track entirely. China must be laughing with glee of the dems plan to destroy what is left of our math curriculum.


Middle of the road kids take Algebra 1 in 8th grade, geometry in 9th and Algebra 2 in 10th. The new LOWERED math standards eliminates the middle track and puts everyone on the exact same remedial track.

At our fcps high school, these new LOWERED standards negatively impact most of the students, including a lot of minority students, because the VA department of education does not believe in the capablitites of kids who have darker skin or speak with an accent. The lower standards negatively imlacts all of the students, including the students they claim to be creating the lower standards for. It is disgusting to dismantle and lower the state math curriculum under the mantle of helping minority kids, because the VA department of education does not believe in their potential to achieve greatness in academics.


That is not LOWERING the standards. That is slowing down the acceleration BEYOND the standards.

Your kid will be fine taking AP Calculus their senior year.


You don't have kids, obviously.


I have two, both gifted. One exceptionally in math. And personally I have two STEM degrees and work in STEM.

My kids will be fine to have a slightly slower rat race. AP Calc in senior year is reasonable.


AP Calc in senior year would not be reasonable under the lowered standards. They have it as an option, but kids would likely need extra classes outside school to be able to take it, or calculus itself would be a watered down class in Virginia, with the teacher having to do lots of remedial work(presumably the weaker kids would not be in here).
So the class would only be for those who absolutely want to take calculus, and their parents would arrange for them to get prep work done over the summer.
Integrated Math 10, followed by two semesters of , or perhaps more classes, selected from applications of advanced algebra, applications of trigonometry, and precalculus with a focus on functions, would not do as well as algebra 2 or algebra 2/trigonometry in 10th and precalc in 11th.
Typical students who would previously have taken calculus in 12th grade will no longer be able to do so under these revised lower standards.
The people making the standards are OK with this, as in their video they explain how calculus really isn't necessary in high school.


You are speculating.


When the department of education openly tells us theh plan to destroy the state math curriculum and completelyblower math standards, the logical thing is to take them at their word.
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This is all so crazy to me. I work to help R&D companies bring talented STEM candidates into their operations. They have a hard time finding qualified candidates many times (very specific biotech fields). US students are already struggling to compete so WHY do this?

Crushed to see that VA is implementing the Cliff's Notes version of math in our public schools.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, I'm one of the people referenced in the first page of posts who thought it sounded so crazy I didn't believe it. I appreciate all the links and info which I'm checking out now.

My 5th grader just moved into advanced math this year (doing the 6th grade curriculum and essentially skipping 5th grade math) and I've never seen him as engaged or excited about math. It is the first thing he tells me about each day. It would be a shame if this isn't an option any more for kids who are ready for it.

I don't see why everyone has to be in one class for the kids who are less quick with math skills to be challenged. It sounds like they want to push the lower end harder than they need to be pushed and hold back the kids who are quicker with it. Are they doing this for reading skills as well?


Please share this proposed change with anyone who will listen, particularly neighbors and families who are empty nesters or seniors.

Share with anyone who votes in Virginia.

This destruction of education standards cannot continue.

Imagine what education in Virginia will look like with 2 more years of this type of nonsense.


Yes, god forbid if more kids are doing well and not just the privileged UMC kids.


Lowering standards by significant amounts because the VA department of education does not believe in the promise or capabilites of minority children does nothing to help any child to reach their potential and is the opposite of the equity they claim to believe in.

Remember the fence drawing?

Equity means giving those kids the tools and resources to see over the fence.

It does not mean making making everyone lay on the ground then sawing down the fence so everyone reaches the same low standards.

If the VA department of education and the politicians who appointed them and set their goals do not believe in the potential of all of our students, including minority students, to rise to their full potential, and don't support giving all students in Virginia a world class education, including poor and minority children, then they do not deserve to serve another minute in office.

There is nothing more racist than assuming that because of their skin tone, children are not capable of performing at their full potential unless you lower standards for everyone else.


It's not LOWERING the standards - it's helping more kids reach the standards. Your UMC kids will still fully meet the standards.


You don't have kids or work in education in Virginia, do you?

It is most certainly lowering the standards.

Algebra 2 does not happen until 11th grade. They will not have completed or learned the lowest skill set on the SATs until after they take the SATs.

In fcps, Algebra 1 is taken in 6th-7th for the advanced kids, with geometry in 7th or 8th, and Algebra 2 in 8th or 9th. These kids are in calculis their sophomore or junior year, multivariable calculus in 11th or 12th. The new LOWERED standards eliminate the advanced math track entirely. China must be laughing with glee of the dems plan to destroy what is left of our math curriculum.


Middle of the road kids take Algebra 1 in 8th grade, geometry in 9th and Algebra 2 in 10th. The new LOWERED math standards eliminates the middle track and puts everyone on the exact same remedial track.

At our fcps high school, these new LOWERED standards negatively impact most of the students, including a lot of minority students, because the VA department of education does not believe in the capablitites of kids who have darker skin or speak with an accent. The lower standards negatively imlacts all of the students, including the students they claim to be creating the lower standards for. It is disgusting to dismantle and lower the state math curriculum under the mantle of helping minority kids, because the VA department of education does not believe in their potential to achieve greatness in academics.


That is not LOWERING the standards. That is slowing down the acceleration BEYOND the standards.

Your kid will be fine taking AP Calculus their senior year.


You don't have kids, obviously.


I have two, both gifted. One exceptionally in math. And personally I have two STEM degrees and work in STEM.

My kids will be fine to have a slightly slower rat race. AP Calc in senior year is reasonable.


AP Calc in senior year would not be reasonable under the lowered standards. They have it as an option, but kids would likely need extra classes outside school to be able to take it, or calculus itself would be a watered down class in Virginia, with the teacher having to do lots of remedial work(presumably the weaker kids would not be in here).
So the class would only be for those who absolutely want to take calculus, and their parents would arrange for them to get prep work done over the summer.
Integrated Math 10, followed by two semesters of , or perhaps more classes, selected from applications of advanced algebra, applications of trigonometry, and precalculus with a focus on functions, would not do as well as algebra 2 or algebra 2/trigonometry in 10th and precalc in 11th.
Typical students who would previously have taken calculus in 12th grade will no longer be able to do so under these revised lower standards.
The people making the standards are OK with this, as in their video they explain how calculus really isn't necessary in high school.


How does that affect college readiness? I get that it calc isn’t offered at your HS it isn’t offered and (hopefully) won’t be held against the student in college admissions, but what about overall readiness? HS instruction is FAR better than college instruction at the Calc 1 level - in HS you’ll have a teacher who knows how to, well, teach; in college you’ll have a TA writing equations on a white board for an hour. I don’t see how kids who are planning to major in a STEM field where Calc+ is required will be properly prepared for college if they can’t take a HS Calc class. Makes no sense.


China's communist leaders must be giddy with joy watching our leaders systematically destroy education.


China is already pretty stoked that we have 74,216,154 documented idiots.
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Anonymous wrote:This is all so crazy to me. I work to help R&D companies bring talented STEM candidates into their operations. They have a hard time finding qualified candidates many times (very specific biotech fields). US students are already struggling to compete so WHY do this?

Crushed to see that VA is implementing the Cliff's Notes version of math in our public schools.


AP calculus & IB are cliffs notes?
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Anonymous wrote:Well, I'm one of the people referenced in the first page of posts who thought it sounded so crazy I didn't believe it. I appreciate all the links and info which I'm checking out now.

My 5th grader just moved into advanced math this year (doing the 6th grade curriculum and essentially skipping 5th grade math) and I've never seen him as engaged or excited about math. It is the first thing he tells me about each day. It would be a shame if this isn't an option any more for kids who are ready for it.

I don't see why everyone has to be in one class for the kids who are less quick with math skills to be challenged. It sounds like they want to push the lower end harder than they need to be pushed and hold back the kids who are quicker with it. Are they doing this for reading skills as well?


Please share this proposed change with anyone who will listen, particularly neighbors and families who are empty nesters or seniors.

Share with anyone who votes in Virginia.

This destruction of education standards cannot continue.

Imagine what education in Virginia will look like with 2 more years of this type of nonsense.


Yes, god forbid if more kids are doing well and not just the privileged UMC kids.


Lowering standards by significant amounts because the VA department of education does not believe in the promise or capabilites of minority children does nothing to help any child to reach their potential and is the opposite of the equity they claim to believe in.

Remember the fence drawing?

Equity means giving those kids the tools and resources to see over the fence.

It does not mean making making everyone lay on the ground then sawing down the fence so everyone reaches the same low standards.

If the VA department of education and the politicians who appointed them and set their goals do not believe in the potential of all of our students, including minority students, to rise to their full potential, and don't support giving all students in Virginia a world class education, including poor and minority children, then they do not deserve to serve another minute in office.

There is nothing more racist than assuming that because of their skin tone, children are not capable of performing at their full potential unless you lower standards for everyone else.


It's not LOWERING the standards - it's helping more kids reach the standards. Your UMC kids will still fully meet the standards.


You don't have kids or work in education in Virginia, do you?

It is most certainly lowering the standards.

Algebra 2 does not happen until 11th grade. They will not have completed or learned the lowest skill set on the SATs until after they take the SATs.

In fcps, Algebra 1 is taken in 6th-7th for the advanced kids, with geometry in 7th or 8th, and Algebra 2 in 8th or 9th. These kids are in calculis their sophomore or junior year, multivariable calculus in 11th or 12th. The new LOWERED standards eliminate the advanced math track entirely. China must be laughing with glee of the dems plan to destroy what is left of our math curriculum.


Middle of the road kids take Algebra 1 in 8th grade, geometry in 9th and Algebra 2 in 10th. The new LOWERED math standards eliminates the middle track and puts everyone on the exact same remedial track.

At our fcps high school, these new LOWERED standards negatively impact most of the students, including a lot of minority students, because the VA department of education does not believe in the capablitites of kids who have darker skin or speak with an accent. The lower standards negatively imlacts all of the students, including the students they claim to be creating the lower standards for. It is disgusting to dismantle and lower the state math curriculum under the mantle of helping minority kids, because the VA department of education does not believe in their potential to achieve greatness in academics.


That is not LOWERING the standards. That is slowing down the acceleration BEYOND the standards.

Your kid will be fine taking AP Calculus their senior year.


You don't have kids, obviously.


I have two, both gifted. One exceptionally in math. And personally I have two STEM degrees and work in STEM.

My kids will be fine to have a slightly slower rat race. AP Calc in senior year is reasonable.


AP Calc in senior year would not be reasonable under the lowered standards. They have it as an option, but kids would likely need extra classes outside school to be able to take it, or calculus itself would be a watered down class in Virginia, with the teacher having to do lots of remedial work(presumably the weaker kids would not be in here).
So the class would only be for those who absolutely want to take calculus, and their parents would arrange for them to get prep work done over the summer.
Integrated Math 10, followed by two semesters of , or perhaps more classes, selected from applications of advanced algebra, applications of trigonometry, and precalculus with a focus on functions, would not do as well as algebra 2 or algebra 2/trigonometry in 10th and precalc in 11th.
Typical students who would previously have taken calculus in 12th grade will no longer be able to do so under these revised lower standards.
The people making the standards are OK with this, as in their video they explain how calculus really isn't necessary in high school.


You are speculating.


When the department of education openly tells us theh plan to destroy the state math curriculum and completelyblower math standards, the logical thing is to take them at their word.


Yes, that’s exactly what they said.

The histrionics are ridonkulous.
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Anonymous wrote:This is all so crazy to me. I work to help R&D companies bring talented STEM candidates into their operations. They have a hard time finding qualified candidates many times (very specific biotech fields). US students are already struggling to compete so WHY do this?

Crushed to see that VA is implementing the Cliff's Notes version of math in our public schools.


AP calculus & IB are cliffs notes?


Not giving proper attention and coverage of foundational materials is Cliff's Notes. Cutting and pasting Algebra/Geometry topics into random formats is Cliff's Notes. Rushing kids through years 7-10 of single level, hodge-podge math is Cliff's Notes, and poor planning. It is not preparing kids for AP Calculus.
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It's not LOWERING the standards - it's helping more kids reach the standards. Your UMC kids will still fully meet the standards.


How is this helping more kids meet the standards who didn't before? It's putting them in classes with all the more advanced kids and assuming that having the smarter kids in there will somehow inspire them to do better. (or, assuming that they'll just do group work and therefore the advanced kids will be doing the work for the struggling kids. Which will help them 'meet standards' on paper, but not always in reality.)

From what I've been able to tell, this proposal takes what is currently the 'gen ed' curriculum, makes that the curriculum for everyone. It doesn't raise expectations for anyone (and for many lowers them) and doesn't provide any additional resources (extra instruction time, extra teachers, or curriculum support) to help the struggling kids.


My understanding is that they will do more collaborative work and change the format of the classes. So the classes themselves will look much different and be more engaging for all to cover fewer topics, but more “deeply”.

They having explained yet so it’s still just speculation.


Bwahahaha.

And that improves math, challenges the smart kids and helps the struggling kids...how?
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Anonymous wrote:This is all so crazy to me. I work to help R&D companies bring talented STEM candidates into their operations. They have a hard time finding qualified candidates many times (very specific biotech fields). US students are already struggling to compete so WHY do this?

Crushed to see that VA is implementing the Cliff's Notes version of math in our public schools.


Please vote education this November. There are lots more of these kinds of ppans in the works.

Dismantlung TJ was phase one.
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Anyone who has two kids who are thriving in different math tracks can see this is going to be a lot harder than the glib pronouncements about collaborative work and depth suggest. And I don’t think it’s very likely to help kids who would have been on the less accelerated tracks in their math confidence levels at all!

Having said that, it’s math outcomes now are awful for many, many kids do I agree something needs to change. I just don’t have confidence in this plan (and nor do I find the supporting studies all that applicable or compelling.)
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Anonymous wrote:This is all so crazy to me. I work to help R&D companies bring talented STEM candidates into their operations. They have a hard time finding qualified candidates many times (very specific biotech fields). US students are already struggling to compete so WHY do this?

Crushed to see that VA is implementing the Cliff's Notes version of math in our public schools.


Please vote education this November. There are lots more of these kinds of ppans in the works.

Dismantlung TJ was phase one.

Sure which candidates do you have in mind?
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Anonymous wrote:This is all so crazy to me. I work to help R&D companies bring talented STEM candidates into their operations. They have a hard time finding qualified candidates many times (very specific biotech fields). US students are already struggling to compete so WHY do this?

Crushed to see that VA is implementing the Cliff's Notes version of math in our public schools.


Please vote education this November. There are lots more of these kinds of ppans in the works.

Dismantlung TJ was phase one.


Oh, I will. School closures and these overhauls are now priority #1. I'm done with all of this.
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“ My understanding is that they will do more collaborative work and change the format of the classes. So the classes themselves will look much different and be more engaging for all to cover fewer topics, but more “deeply”.

They having explained yet so it’s still just speculation. ”

1. They explain more in the webinars than what they put in writing. Which I find noteworthy itself.

2. Do you have kids in ES? “Collaborative work” = group work. Fine occasionally but in my view a big time waster in math specifically. And as to the other format changes - basically it is putting all the kids in the same class to do the same work. Most parents realize that means that the kids on the higher end will get barely any attention. Other parents of kids who need more time have voiced concerns that their kids will also be worse off since teachers will have to split time more between different levels.
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You are speculating.


Sure, it's educated speculation based on what VDOE has told us thus far (and what they are/aren't directly answering in terms of questions). Consider:
They have told us 'students will still be able to take calculus'; but they have not explained in detail what classes students take when in order to make that happen.

They have told us that they're eliminating all acceleration. Right now: non accelerated students take Algebra 1 in 9th, Geometry in 10th, Algebra 2 in 11th, and Precalc/something else/nothing in 12th. There is no calculus for these students *unless they take classes outside of school to catch up.*

Understanding that they're planning to rework Algebra 1, geometry, and algebra 2 content into a different sequence: Either this is still going to take roughly 3 years of time to get through the content, OR they're going to drop some topics from the curriculum. They have not revealed what the specific mapping of content is from the old courses to the new, but they have also never stated that they're dropping content. Assuming it's going to take 3 years of time to get through all this course material still, that leaves kids who want calc in 12th having to take precalc with trig (right now a 1 year course) when? This is why we're speculating they're going to have to take it over the summer to be prepared.

The other option we can see is that some content will be dropped from (we're guessing) Algebra 2 and precalc/trig, and they plan to somehow combine those two (currently full year) courses into one year total so that students can still take calc in 12th. We think it's dumb to try and compress large amounts of the high school curriculum when VDOE is insisting that our kids need to all sit through years of repetition in elementary instead of going to algebra when they're ready.

If you can logically see a 'path' to calc that doesn't involve summer school or compressing the HS curriculum in what VMPI has presented thus far, then by all means, tell us what we're missing here.



From a link upthread(equationsnow), not sure if this is explicitly reference by VMPI,
Design junior and senior year BRANCH
courses, including an AP mathematics course
that seniors can take without accelerating
through the curriculum, as well as junior and
senior year STEM math courses that prepare
students for calculus in high school or college.

More importantly to present discussion-
Design ninth and 10th grade courses that
prioritize content important for BRANCH
pathways, while shifting more technical STEMapplicable content into junior and senior year
STEM courses.
In other words algebra 2 is 11th grade.
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