New River Campus?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:River School has a lot of rich people who want this property and they don't care what they have to do to get it or who they have to step on. There are several other locations in DC, even in Northwest, that are viable options but River wants what it wants and the rich parents will pay. They are not helping any community with this school. If they were they would locate in some area where they would also have jobs available to neighbors or in a place near Gallaudet to be a feeder if they were a school for the deaf. But they are not. They are a private school that has some speech specialists to help 10-15 percent of their kids who have hearing aids and cochlear implants. Very important for those kids but not a big portion of their population and children who are deaf are not their current population

Their feeder schools are GDS, Sidwell and Maret. None of their communication with families is about transition to a feeder school within the deaf school community like Kendall Demonstration Elementary School, which is also private, and on Gallaudet's campus. Just good 'ol "regular" expensive private schools.

[Anonymous]

The whole value proposition of River for children with hearing loss seems to be centered around the notion that by the time they finish 3rd grade, they are ready to go on to a fully-mainstream selective private school for 4th grade.

River parents don't want their kids to go on to a school for the deaf or eventually to Gallaudet. They want them to go on to a Big 3 and then eventually HYP.

Likelihood of River admin or admin-associated folks doing something like taking down signs is low. Parents gonna be entitled parents no matter what, though (but there are relatively few Maryland families and none of the school's prominent families would likely have cars with MD license plates).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Funniest thing is that we caught one of the women about to walk onto my yard to take my sign. She ended up saying she was not from River. But when she got back into her car after I asked her to leave my property as she was trespassing, she had a River School magnet on the back of her car.

That is really awful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It already is a traffic cluster. The addition of River School wouldn't make it worse.

+1. It's a drop in a huge bucket.

They estimate ~250 trips to campus in morning and afternoon. Probably that many cars go up Nebraska every 5 minutes at normal times, let alone rush hour.

Odd how when there's a new Target or Wegman's or new restaurants that will draw traffic no one is up in arms, but when it's a school? Oh the horror.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It already is a traffic cluster. The addition of River School wouldn't make it worse.

+1. It's a drop in a huge bucket.

They estimate ~250 trips to campus in morning and afternoon. Probably that many cars go up Nebraska every 5 minutes at normal times, let alone rush hour.

Odd how when there's a new Target or Wegman's or new restaurants that will draw traffic no one is up in arms, but when it's a school? Oh the horror.

Odd how that same Wegman's you mention is going to share roughly 800 parking spaces. How many spots for the "~250 trips in the morning AND afternoon" EACH DAY with River School have for its parents??? It. Does. Not. Fit.

[Anonymous]

The intersection of Van Ness and Nebraska can be a mess. Van Ness backs up significantly in the morning (during normal times) on each side of Nebraska. The side with 42nd street is particularly crazy as 42nd has a stop and Van Ness does not, and often people just block the intersection in order to get through. Plus you then have people making a left from Nebraska onto Van Ness, people go through the red to make a left thus leaving less time for Van Ness to clear out (they should just add a left arrow there at this point). Also, I'm not sure what they are referring to as NPS has a U that goes onto Nebraska for drop offs and pick ups...my kid has been at NPS camp for a few years and we always were directed to use the Van Ness entrance and exit (which is a bear to make a left out of during the morning already). The Nebraska entrance always looks blocked off. I have nothing against another school in the neighborhood but it does seem like this plan is too much for this space.

P.S. If you think no one has complained about the possible traffic coming from the Wegmans then you must not know anyone in McLean Gardens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s just too bad they can’t spread the wealth to other neighborhoods that might benefit from having a good private school. But I guess they all stick together, literally and figuratively. And people wonder why anyone would worry if their low-SES or truly middle class family would fit in at one of these schools.

Exactly. Guess their mission doesn't go that far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It already is a traffic cluster. The addition of River School wouldn't make it worse.

+1. It's a drop in a huge bucket.

They estimate ~250 trips to campus in morning and afternoon. Probably that many cars go up Nebraska every 5 minutes at normal times, let alone rush hour.

Odd how when there's a new Target or Wegman's or new restaurants that will draw traffic no one is up in arms, but when it's a school? Oh the horror.

Not odd at all. Those stores serve the surrounding community rather than a small number of people, most of whom will drive to get there with little thought to affect they have on the neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

A school doesn't have the kind of parking impact that a grocery store has. It's mostly pickup/dropoff. River's had a very orderly carpool with minimal line during this coronavirus time, by the use of assigned carpool slots. But I imagine the move would change some of those dynamics. A lot of River parents walk their kids to school because they live in the nearby Palisades neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:River School has a lot of rich people who want this property and they don't care what they have to do to get it or who they have to step on. There are several other locations in DC, even in Northwest, that are viable options but River wants what it wants and the rich parents will pay. They are not helping any community with this school. If they were they would locate in some area where they would also have jobs available to neighbors or in a place near Gallaudet to be a feeder if they were a school for the deaf. But they are not. They are a private school that has some speech specialists to help 10-15 percent of their kids who have hearing aids and cochlear implants. Very important for those kids but not a big portion of their population and children who are deaf are not their current population

1) this is jobs, and more of them
2) the classic NIMBY "put it over there" ploy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It already is a traffic cluster. The addition of River School wouldn't make it worse.

+1. It's a drop in a huge bucket.

They estimate ~250 trips to campus in morning and afternoon. Probably that many cars go up Nebraska every 5 minutes at normal times, let alone rush hour.

Odd how when there's a new Target or Wegman's or new restaurants that will draw traffic no one is up in arms, but when it's a school? Oh the horror.

Odd how that same Wegman's you mention is going to share roughly 800 parking spaces. How many spots for the "~250 trips in the morning AND afternoon" EACH DAY with River School have for its parents??? It. Does. Not. Fit.

it's car pooling, they don't need spots to park, they would presumably be picking up and dropping off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Funniest thing is that we caught one of the women about to walk onto my yard to take my sign. She ended up saying she was not from River. But when she got back into her car after I asked her to leave my property as she was trespassing, she had a River School magnet on the back of her car.

Wow. Is this the kind of parents at the River School? Embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The intersection of Van Ness and Nebraska can be a mess. Van Ness backs up significantly in the morning (during normal times) on each side of Nebraska. The side with 42nd street is particularly crazy as 42nd has a stop and Van Ness does not, and often people just block the intersection in order to get through. Plus you then have people making a left from Nebraska onto Van Ness, people go through the red to make a left thus leaving less time for Van Ness to clear out (they should just add a left arrow there at this point). Also, I'm not sure what they are referring to as NPS has a U that goes onto Nebraska for drop offs and pick ups...my kid has been at NPS camp for a few years and we always were directed to use the Van Ness entrance and exit (which is a bear to make a left out of during the morning already). The Nebraska entrance always looks blocked off. I have nothing against another school in the neighborhood but it does seem like this plan is too much for this space.

P.S. If you think no one has complained about the possible traffic coming from the Wegmans then you must not know anyone in McLean Gardens.

This, this, this!! That specific intersection is a BEAR. I have to pass through there daily. I can't imagine adding another busy carpool to that section of street.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The intersection of Van Ness and Nebraska can be a mess. Van Ness backs up significantly in the morning (during normal times) on each side of Nebraska. The side with 42nd street is particularly crazy as 42nd has a stop and Van Ness does not, and often people just block the intersection in order to get through. Plus you then have people making a left from Nebraska onto Van Ness, people go through the red to make a left thus leaving less time for Van Ness to clear out (they should just add a left arrow there at this point). Also, I'm not sure what they are referring to as NPS has a U that goes onto Nebraska for drop offs and pick ups...my kid has been at NPS camp for a few years and we always were directed to use the Van Ness entrance and exit (which is a bear to make a left out of during the morning already). The Nebraska entrance always looks blocked off. I have nothing against another school in the neighborhood but it does seem like this plan is too much for this space.

P.S. If you think no one has complained about the possible traffic coming from the Wegmans then you must not know anyone in McLean Gardens.

This, this, this!! That specific intersection is a BEAR. I have to pass through there daily. I can't imagine adding another busy carpool to that section of street.

Then how about you stop driving through it so it isn't a BEAR?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The intersection of Van Ness and Nebraska can be a mess. Van Ness backs up significantly in the morning (during normal times) on each side of Nebraska. The side with 42nd street is particularly crazy as 42nd has a stop and Van Ness does not, and often people just block the intersection in order to get through. Plus you then have people making a left from Nebraska onto Van Ness, people go through the red to make a left thus leaving less time for Van Ness to clear out (they should just add a left arrow there at this point). Also, I'm not sure what they are referring to as NPS has a U that goes onto Nebraska for drop offs and pick ups...my kid has been at NPS camp for a few years and we always were directed to use the Van Ness entrance and exit (which is a bear to make a left out of during the morning already). The Nebraska entrance always looks blocked off. I have nothing against another school in the neighborhood but it does seem like this plan is too much for this space.

P.S. If you think no one has complained about the possible traffic coming from the Wegmans then you must not know anyone in McLean Gardens.

This, this, this!! That specific intersection is a BEAR. I have to pass through there daily. I can't imagine adding another busy carpool to that section of street.

Then how about you stop driving through it so it isn't a BEAR?

I have to drive onto that street for work, ya nut!