WP Article on LAMB's failure to re-open

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will agree there's a bit of hysteria factor going on around Covid perhaps, meaning that teachers are spooked. Particularly teachers with demographics that might cause them to be more likely to experience the disease or die from it.

There's also hysteria around most everything to do with this issue. Recommend we go back to science and stop shouting at each other over the internet. If some are concerned, maybe they don't know the latest science around both reopening schools and DC's rates? Some basics can be shared in a courteous way and what about having a teacher zoom call with a few public health experts to go over details? I know if my workplace wanted me back in person, I would expect to be given the latest science from an expert, and be able to ask questions. I'd want to verify the processes in place to prevent exposure. I might hope the employer would do most of this legwork for me, even, and summarize all findings.

Why survey teachers whether they want to come back, without this due diligence?

This is a very good idea. Every school should do this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know how many people in Washington DC died in October from coronavirus? 14.

That's down from almost 300 dying per month back in the spring.

At this rate, pretty soon there's going to be more people in the District dying in car accidents than from coronavirus.

Or homicides.

Washington D.C.: Where you're more likely to be murdered than die from coronavirus, and 100,000 children are banned from going to school.

New slogan for our license plates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will agree there's a bit of hysteria factor going on around Covid perhaps, meaning that teachers are spooked. Particularly teachers with demographics that might cause them to be more likely to experience the disease or die from it.

There's also hysteria around most everything to do with this issue. Recommend we go back to science and stop shouting at each other over the internet. If some are concerned, maybe they don't know the latest science around both reopening schools and DC's rates? Some basics can be shared in a courteous way and what about having a teacher zoom call with a few public health experts to go over details? I know if my workplace wanted me back in person, I would expect to be given the latest science from an expert, and be able to ask questions. I'd want to verify the processes in place to prevent exposure. I might hope the employer would do most of this legwork for me, even, and summarize all findings.

Why survey teachers whether they want to come back, without this due diligence?

This is a very good suggestion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know how many people in Washington DC died in October from coronavirus? 14.

That's down from almost 300 dying per month back in the spring.

At this rate, pretty soon there's going to be more people in the District dying in car accidents than from coronavirus.

There's only about 95 people in the entire city who are in the hospital with coronavirus. Let me put a denominator on that: There's 705,000 people in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will agree there's a bit of hysteria factor going on around Covid perhaps, meaning that teachers are spooked. Particularly teachers with demographics that might cause them to be more likely to experience the disease or die from it.

There's also hysteria around most everything to do with this issue. Recommend we go back to science and stop shouting at each other over the internet. If some are concerned, maybe they don't know the latest science around both reopening schools and DC's rates? Some basics can be shared in a courteous way and what about having a teacher zoom call with a few public health experts to go over details? I know if my workplace wanted me back in person, I would expect to be given the latest science from an expert, and be able to ask questions. I'd want to verify the processes in place to prevent exposure. I might hope the employer would do most of this legwork for me, even, and summarize all findings.

Why survey teachers whether they want to come back, without this due diligence?

This is a very good suggestion.

The horse is out of the barn on this though. For one thing, there are tons of scary anecdotes that people use to leverage fear. For another, during this whole experience, it has taken a long time to get to the place where we have reliable studies that point in one direction - so for every study that says its safe, people point to another saying it isn't.

We've gotten to a point where people have all come up with their own set of facts and correlating behaviors based on what they have chosen to believe and who they have chosen to believe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will agree there's a bit of hysteria factor going on around Covid perhaps, meaning that teachers are spooked. Particularly teachers with demographics that might cause them to be more likely to experience the disease or die from it.

There's also hysteria around most everything to do with this issue. Recommend we go back to science and stop shouting at each other over the internet. If some are concerned, maybe they don't know the latest science around both reopening schools and DC's rates? Some basics can be shared in a courteous way and what about having a teacher zoom call with a few public health experts to go over details? I know if my workplace wanted me back in person, I would expect to be given the latest science from an expert, and be able to ask questions. I'd want to verify the processes in place to prevent exposure. I might hope the employer would do most of this legwork for me, even, and summarize all findings.

Why survey teachers whether they want to come back, without this due diligence?

This is a very good suggestion.

The horse is out of the barn on this though. For one thing, there are tons of scary anecdotes that people use to leverage fear. For another, during this whole experience, it has taken a long time to get to the place where we have reliable studies that point in one direction - so for every study that says its safe, people point to another saying it isn't.

We've gotten to a point where people have all come up with their own set of facts and correlating behaviors based on what they have chosen to believe and who they have chosen to believe.

At LAMB, facts and science and health metrics and precautionary measures don't matter. The only thing that matters is teachers' feelings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will agree there's a bit of hysteria factor going on around Covid perhaps, meaning that teachers are spooked. Particularly teachers with demographics that might cause them to be more likely to experience the disease or die from it.

There's also hysteria around most everything to do with this issue. Recommend we go back to science and stop shouting at each other over the internet. If some are concerned, maybe they don't know the latest science around both reopening schools and DC's rates? Some basics can be shared in a courteous way and what about having a teacher zoom call with a few public health experts to go over details? I know if my workplace wanted me back in person, I would expect to be given the latest science from an expert, and be able to ask questions. I'd want to verify the processes in place to prevent exposure. I might hope the employer would do most of this legwork for me, even, and summarize all findings.

Why survey teachers whether they want to come back, without this due diligence?

This is a very good suggestion.

The horse is out of the barn on this though. For one thing, there are tons of scary anecdotes that people use to leverage fear. For another, during this whole experience, it has taken a long time to get to the place where we have reliable studies that point in one direction - so for every study that says its safe, people point to another saying it isn't.

We've gotten to a point where people have all come up with their own set of facts and correlating behaviors based on what they have chosen to believe and who they have chosen to believe.

At LAMB, facts and science and health metrics and precautionary measures don't matter. The only thing that matters is teachers' feelings.

You aren't very good at reading, are you PP.

[Anonymous]

Why are you sending your kid to a school where the teachers have feelings and don’t believe your facts and your risk level?

You sound like a self entitled person who doesn’t like being a mom and feels guilty for it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are you sending your kid to a school where the teachers have feelings and don’t believe your facts and your risk level?

You sound like a self entitled person who doesn’t like being a mom and feels guilty for it

What? That first sentence....the words don't really make sense in that order. Are you the same person from above who called parents garbage people and also accused them of not caring about rape?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are you sending your kid to a school where the teachers have feelings and don’t believe your facts and your risk level?

You sound like a self entitled person who doesn’t like being a mom and feels guilty for it

The teachers are being really selfish. They're also poorly informed about coronavirus. It seems like they dont care at all about science or facts or what any health expert says. At this point, there are so few people in Washington with coronavirus, that a teacher is probably more likely to die in a car wreck while driving to school than from coronavirus.

[Anonymous]

There's a lot of LAMB parents debating whether to leave the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of LAMB parents debating whether to leave the school.

I wish they would. Open up a lot of spots for kids who want to be there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of LAMB parents debating whether to leave the school.

I wish they would. Open up a lot of spots for kids who want to be there.

Not really. The school doesn't accept new students after kindergarten.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will agree there's a bit of hysteria factor going on around Covid perhaps, meaning that teachers are spooked. Particularly teachers with demographics that might cause them to be more likely to experience the disease or die from it.

There's also hysteria around most everything to do with this issue. Recommend we go back to science and stop shouting at each other over the internet. If some are concerned, maybe they don't know the latest science around both reopening schools and DC's rates? Some basics can be shared in a courteous way and what about having a teacher zoom call with a few public health experts to go over details? I know if my workplace wanted me back in person, I would expect to be given the latest science from an expert, and be able to ask questions. I'd want to verify the processes in place to prevent exposure. I might hope the employer would do most of this legwork for me, even, and summarize all findings.

Why survey teachers whether they want to come back, without this due diligence?

This is a very good suggestion.

The horse is out of the barn on this though. For one thing, there are tons of scary anecdotes that people use to leverage fear. For another, during this whole experience, it has taken a long time to get to the place where we have reliable studies that point in one direction - so for every study that says its safe, people point to another saying it isn't.

We've gotten to a point where people have all come up with their own set of facts and correlating behaviors based on what they have chosen to believe and who they have chosen to believe.

I would imagine you would need to have
1) teachers/staff that are open to expert opinion and scientific evidence, wherever it points
2) an expert or experts that that are trusted by the teachers/staff

I'm not being facetious.

Come to think of it, this kind of discussion might also be good for parents. There's certainly a lot of hysterical rhetoric going around that may be helped by calmer guidance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will agree there's a bit of hysteria factor going on around Covid perhaps, meaning that teachers are spooked. Particularly teachers with demographics that might cause them to be more likely to experience the disease or die from it.

There's also hysteria around most everything to do with this issue. Recommend we go back to science and stop shouting at each other over the internet. If some are concerned, maybe they don't know the latest science around both reopening schools and DC's rates? Some basics can be shared in a courteous way and what about having a teacher zoom call with a few public health experts to go over details? I know if my workplace wanted me back in person, I would expect to be given the latest science from an expert, and be able to ask questions. I'd want to verify the processes in place to prevent exposure. I might hope the employer would do most of this legwork for me, even, and summarize all findings.

Why survey teachers whether they want to come back, without this due diligence?

This is a very good suggestion.

The horse is out of the barn on this though. For one thing, there are tons of scary anecdotes that people use to leverage fear. For another, during this whole experience, it has taken a long time to get to the place where we have reliable studies that point in one direction - so for every study that says its safe, people point to another saying it isn't.

We've gotten to a point where people have all come up with their own set of facts and correlating behaviors based on what they have chosen to believe and who they have chosen to believe.

I would imagine you would need to have
1) teachers/staff that are open to expert opinion and scientific evidence, wherever it points
2) an expert or experts that that are trusted by the teachers/staff

I'm not being facetious.

Come to think of it, this kind of discussion might also be good for parents. There's certainly a lot of hysterical rhetoric going around that may be helped by calmer guidance.

I think the idea of hiring an outside expert to look at LAMB's reopening plans and answer questions from teachers and parents is an extremely good idea.