WP Article on LAMB's failure to re-open

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

I would imagine you would need to have
1) teachers/staff that are open to expert opinion and scientific evidence, wherever it points
2) an expert or experts that that are trusted by the teachers/staff

I'm not being facetious.

Come to think of it, this kind of discussion might also be good for parents. There's certainly a lot of hysterical rhetoric going around that may be helped by calmer guidance.


Does anyone else struggle with the fact that we have apparently a large number of teachers that are ignoring expert advice and science? Is there a word for "sad ironic?"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of LAMB parents debating whether to leave the school.


I wish they would. Open up a lot of spots for kids who want to be there.


Not really. The school doesn't accept new students after kindergarten.


Can they do that now that they are in the common lottery? I thought that they were able to get away with that in the past because of they ran their own lottery
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of LAMB parents debating whether to leave the school.


I wish they would. Open up a lot of spots for kids who want to be there.


Not really. The school doesn't accept new students after kindergarten.


Can they do that now that they are in the common lottery? I thought that they were able to get away with that in the past because of they ran their own lottery


It would wreck their school model if they started accepting new students after kindergarten. They barely take new students after prek3.
Anonymous
African-American women are disproportionately like to a) get; b) die from COVID. There are also twice as likely as white people to be caring for elderly parents/relatives. Many white parents on DCUM use poor children (who they couldn't give zero effs about, normally) as a shield for their racist and misogynistic response to African-American teachers and the WTU. It is not laziness and a lack of caring for children that makes teacher skeptical about DCPS/DCPCS back to in-person school plans. It's fear and distrust. You have to counter fear and distrust with confidence building-measures like rapid testing and isolating students within the school building like they do in Scandinavia.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: You have to counter fear and distrust with confidence building-measures like rapid testing and isolating students within the school building like they do in Scandinavia.


This is also a good suggestion.

I know WTU is having these discussions, and I want to hope that they are at least partially in good faith, about what safety measures they would like. It at least helps clarify that DCPS teachers are willing to return to in-person school if specific concerns are addressed.

It would be helpful to have this type of understanding from charter school teachers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I would imagine you would need to have
1) teachers/staff that are open to expert opinion and scientific evidence, wherever it points
2) an expert or experts that that are trusted by the teachers/staff

I'm not being facetious.

Come to think of it, this kind of discussion might also be good for parents. There's certainly a lot of hysterical rhetoric going around that may be helped by calmer guidance.


Does anyone else struggle with the fact that we have apparently a large number of teachers that are ignoring expert advice and science? Is there a word for "sad ironic?"


It is very distressing. It's not just the teachers. The leadership seems to have very little regard for expert opinion or science or facts or health metrics. It's like the school has suddenly become anti-science.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of LAMB parents debating whether to leave the school.


I wish they would. Open up a lot of spots for kids who want to be there.


Not really. The school doesn't accept new students after kindergarten.


Can they do that now that they are in the common lottery? I thought that they were able to get away with that in the past because of they ran their own lottery


It would wreck their school model if they started accepting new students after kindergarten. They barely take new students after prek3.


Well if all rheee upset parents leave then they would have to accept people to keep enrollment numbers up and get funding.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:African-American women are disproportionately like to a) get; b) die from COVID. There are also twice as likely as white people to be caring for elderly parents/relatives. Many white parents on DCUM use poor children (who they couldn't give zero effs about, normally) as a shield for their racist and misogynistic response to African-American teachers and the WTU. It is not laziness and a lack of caring for children that makes teacher skeptical about DCPS/DCPCS back to in-person school plans. It's fear and distrust. You have to counter fear and distrust with confidence building-measures like rapid testing and isolating students within the school building like they do in Scandinavia.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:African-American women are disproportionately like to a) get; b) die from COVID. There are also twice as likely as white people to be caring for elderly parents/relatives. Many white parents on DCUM use poor children (who they couldn't give zero effs about, normally) as a shield for their racist and misogynistic response to African-American teachers and the WTU. It is not laziness and a lack of caring for children that makes teacher skeptical about DCPS/DCPCS back to in-person school plans. It's fear and distrust. You have to counter fear and distrust with confidence building-measures like rapid testing and isolating students within the school building like they do in Scandinavia.


It also helps to focus on facts. Not very many people in DC die from coronavirus -- the numbers have fallen dramatically over the past six months. Only 14 people died in October, which is close to the number who typically die in car accidents each month. Of those who've died, they are disproportionately elderly. 60 percent were at least 70 years old.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:African-American women are disproportionately like to a) get; b) die from COVID. There are also twice as likely as white people to be caring for elderly parents/relatives. Many white parents on DCUM use poor children (who they couldn't give zero effs about, normally) as a shield for their racist and misogynistic response to African-American teachers and the WTU. It is not laziness and a lack of caring for children that makes teacher skeptical about DCPS/DCPCS back to in-person school plans. It's fear and distrust. You have to counter fear and distrust with confidence building-measures like rapid testing and isolating students within the school building like they do in Scandinavia.


It also helps to focus on facts. Not very many people in DC die from coronavirus -- the numbers have fallen dramatically over the past six months. Only 14 people died in October, which is close to the number who typically die in car accidents each month. Of those who've died, they are disproportionately elderly. 60 percent were at least 70 years old.


Well, you are culling facts that serve your agenda. Long-haul COVID is real and brutal: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/long-haul-covid-patients/2020/10/23/ab7c5324-0712-11eb-9be6-cf25fb429f1a_story.html. Cases are surging in VA and MD where many DC teachers live: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/coronavirus-in-dc-maryland-virginia-what-to-know-on-oct-26/2454044/.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:African-American women are disproportionately like to a) get; b) die from COVID. There are also twice as likely as white people to be caring for elderly parents/relatives. Many white parents on DCUM use poor children (who they couldn't give zero effs about, normally) as a shield for their racist and misogynistic response to African-American teachers and the WTU. It is not laziness and a lack of caring for children that makes teacher skeptical about DCPS/DCPCS back to in-person school plans. It's fear and distrust. You have to counter fear and distrust with confidence building-measures like rapid testing and isolating students within the school building like they do in Scandinavia.


It also helps to focus on facts. Not very many people in DC die from coronavirus -- the numbers have fallen dramatically over the past six months. Only 14 people died in October, which is close to the number who typically die in car accidents each month. Of those who've died, they are disproportionately elderly. 60 percent were at least 70 years old.


Well, you are culling facts that serve your agenda. Long-haul COVID is real and brutal: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/long-haul-covid-patients/2020/10/23/ab7c5324-0712-11eb-9be6-cf25fb429f1a_story.html. Cases are surging in VA and MD where many DC teachers live: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/coronavirus-in-dc-maryland-virginia-what-to-know-on-oct-26/2454044/.



I just want to point out that if you're suggesting that DC teachers are at COVID risk from their home communities, then the problem is there and not in DC schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:African-American women are disproportionately like to a) get; b) die from COVID. There are also twice as likely as white people to be caring for elderly parents/relatives. Many white parents on DCUM use poor children (who they couldn't give zero effs about, normally) as a shield for their racist and misogynistic response to African-American teachers and the WTU. It is not laziness and a lack of caring for children that makes teacher skeptical about DCPS/DCPCS back to in-person school plans. It's fear and distrust. You have to counter fear and distrust with confidence building-measures like rapid testing and isolating students within the school building like they do in Scandinavia.


It also helps to focus on facts. Not very many people in DC die from coronavirus -- the numbers have fallen dramatically over the past six months. Only 14 people died in October, which is close to the number who typically die in car accidents each month. Of those who've died, they are disproportionately elderly. 60 percent were at least 70 years old.


Well, you are culling facts that serve your agenda. Long-haul COVID is real and brutal: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/long-haul-covid-patients/2020/10/23/ab7c5324-0712-11eb-9be6-cf25fb429f1a_story.html. Cases are surging in VA and MD where many DC teachers live: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/coronavirus-in-dc-maryland-virginia-what-to-know-on-oct-26/2454044/.



I just want to point out that if you're suggesting that DC teachers are at COVID risk from their home communities, then the problem is there and not in DC schools.


I just want to point out that you're suggesting that viral spread has nothing to do with people congregating together indoors and that teachers and/or students do not carry whatever viruses that they have been exposed to in their "home communities" inside a school building. This is the definition of magical thinking. Very much like Covita and Justice Covid Barrett singing "don't cry for me, District of Columbia" on the White House balcony last night. Kudos!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:African-American women are disproportionately like to a) get; b) die from COVID. There are also twice as likely as white people to be caring for elderly parents/relatives. Many white parents on DCUM use poor children (who they couldn't give zero effs about, normally) as a shield for their racist and misogynistic response to African-American teachers and the WTU. It is not laziness and a lack of caring for children that makes teacher skeptical about DCPS/DCPCS back to in-person school plans. It's fear and distrust. You have to counter fear and distrust with confidence building-measures like rapid testing and isolating students within the school building like they do in Scandinavia.


and you’re not using Black women as a shield?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:African-American women are disproportionately like to a) get; b) die from COVID. There are also twice as likely as white people to be caring for elderly parents/relatives. Many white parents on DCUM use poor children (who they couldn't give zero effs about, normally) as a shield for their racist and misogynistic response to African-American teachers and the WTU. It is not laziness and a lack of caring for children that makes teacher skeptical about DCPS/DCPCS back to in-person school plans. It's fear and distrust. You have to counter fear and distrust with confidence building-measures like rapid testing and isolating students within the school building like they do in Scandinavia.


It also helps to focus on facts. Not very many people in DC die from coronavirus -- the numbers have fallen dramatically over the past six months. Only 14 people died in October, which is close to the number who typically die in car accidents each month. Of those who've died, they are disproportionately elderly. 60 percent were at least 70 years old.


Well, you are culling facts that serve your agenda. Long-haul COVID is real and brutal: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/long-haul-covid-patients/2020/10/23/ab7c5324-0712-11eb-9be6-cf25fb429f1a_story.html. Cases are surging in VA and MD where many DC teachers live: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/coronavirus-in-dc-maryland-virginia-what-to-know-on-oct-26/2454044/.



so no public school till 2023?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:African-American women are disproportionately like to a) get; b) die from COVID. There are also twice as likely as white people to be caring for elderly parents/relatives. Many white parents on DCUM use poor children (who they couldn't give zero effs about, normally) as a shield for their racist and misogynistic response to African-American teachers and the WTU. It is not laziness and a lack of caring for children that makes teacher skeptical about DCPS/DCPCS back to in-person school plans. It's fear and distrust. You have to counter fear and distrust with confidence building-measures like rapid testing and isolating students within the school building like they do in Scandinavia.


and you’re not using Black women as a shield?


Weird statement. Newsflash. There are black women on DCUM. Black women are also the majority of DC teachers.
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