Chances at HYP

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Anonymous wrote:Ives are seeking out people with exotic interests.

MIT admitted some who won a martial arts award, and rejected two Intel Sciences Competition semi-finalists (there are only 300 of them nationwide).

Wharton admitted someone whose main activities were in beauty queen contests.

300 nationwide is impressive but since almost all 300 probably apply to MIT, they can not all gain admittance. Please tll me there was something else to the beauty pageant queen. How are we even still having beauty pageants?

I agree that pageants are stupid. However, there were at least 3 “pageant girls” in my class at Harvard, one of whom then competed in Miss America as Miss Massachusetts. They were all smart, one was pre-med and is now a doctor. The only thing I didn’t like about them is that they wore way too much makeup on a daily basis. However that could just be cultural (they were from SC and FL).

Why are pageant contestants desirable admits at elite institutions of higher learning? sS there something about beauty pageants that translates to high level scholarship?

They're interesting!
No college (even Harvard) wants a class of Intel or STEM automatons.

Trump certainly agrees with you. If he becomes the president of Harvard, he will probably create a major of pageant.

Depends on what you do with the crown. I know a great young lawyer who won a statewide beauty pageant and used her yearlong tour of the state as a platform for her social change agenda. She also gained lots of leadership and public speaking experience that very few high school students ever have.

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Anonymous wrote:Ives are seeking out people with exotic interests.

MIT admitted some who won a martial arts award, and rejected two Intel Sciences Competition semi-finalists (there are only 300 of them nationwide).

Wharton admitted someone whose main activities were in beauty queen contests.

300 nationwide is impressive but since almost all 300 probably apply to MIT, they can not all gain admittance. Please tll me there was something else to the beauty pageant queen. How are we even still having beauty pageants?

I agree that pageants are stupid. However, there were at least 3 “pageant girls” in my class at Harvard, one of whom then competed in Miss America as Miss Massachusetts. They were all smart, one was pre-med and is now a doctor. The only thing I didn’t like about them is that they wore way too much makeup on a daily basis. However that could just be cultural (they were from SC and FL).

Why are pageant contestants desirable admits at elite institutions of higher learning? sS there something about beauty pageants that translates to high level scholarship?

They're interesting!
No college (even Harvard) wants a class of Intel or STEM automatons.

Trump certainly agrees with you. If he becomes the president of Harvard, he will probably create a major of pageant.

Depends on what you do with the crown. I know a great young lawyer who won a statewide beauty pageant and used her yearlong tour of the state as a platform for her social change agenda. She also gained lots of leadership and public speaking experience that very few high school students ever have.

Who is she? She is public figure enough for you to name her here.

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Anonymous wrote:Ives are seeking out people with exotic interests.

MIT admitted some who won a martial arts award, and rejected two Intel Sciences Competition semi-finalists (there are only 300 of them nationwide).

Wharton admitted someone whose main activities were in beauty queen contests.

300 nationwide is impressive but since almost all 300 probably apply to MIT, they can not all gain admittance. Please tll me there was something else to the beauty pageant queen. How are we even still having beauty pageants?

I agree that pageants are stupid. However, there were at least 3 “pageant girls” in my class at Harvard, one of whom then competed in Miss America as Miss Massachusetts. They were all smart, one was pre-med and is now a doctor. The only thing I didn’t like about them is that they wore way too much makeup on a daily basis. However that could just be cultural (they were from SC and FL).

Why are pageant contestants desirable admits at elite institutions of higher learning? sS there something about beauty pageants that translates to high level scholarship?

They're interesting!
No college (even Harvard) wants a class of Intel or STEM automatons.

Not sure about that. When the nerds finally get to HYP, their nerdy focus on all matter of academics is finally shared as interesting by their peers. the kids from our district headed to HYP are the super geeks, not the beauty queens.

Same. In fact all the kids I know who go to tippy top schools are nerdy, interesting, but non-partying (in hs at least) bookish kids

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Erika Harold went to Harvard Law after winning Miss America. (She was super conservative/republican.)

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Mine got into P. as a rowing recruit from another elite private here. The only other kid who was accepted to P. her yearwas a kid who was Class Pres. for 6 years. That kid went elsewhere. I think your D.D. Has a shot. She needs to write exceptional essays + have exceptional references. It would help if she could get an award + do something cool like start online music classes for poor kids + start an instrument donation campaign. Good luck to her!

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Anonymous wrote:Mine got into P. as a rowing recruit from another elite private here. The only other kid who was accepted to P. her yearwas a kid who was Class Pres. for 6 years. That kid went elsewhere. I think your D.D. Has a shot. She needs to write exceptional essays + have exceptional references. It would help if she could get an award + do something cool like start online music classes for poor kids + start an instrument donation campaign. Good luck to her!

Isn't it way too late for a senior to start something and be taken seriously before college application season?

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Anonymous wrote:Mine got into P. as a rowing recruit from another elite private here. The only other kid who was accepted to P. her yearwas a kid who was Class Pres. for 6 years. That kid went elsewhere. I think your D.D. Has a shot. She needs to write exceptional essays + have exceptional references. It would help if she could get an award + do something cool like start online music classes for poor kids + start an instrument donation campaign. Good luck to her!

Isn't it way too late for a senior to start something and be taken seriously before college application season?

In the age of Covid, rules are different. The essay could describe the urgent nature of poor people in particular needing music + have applicant raise emergency instrument donations. I have helped a lot of kids get into top schools by designing unique applications that the together + Build on their particular interests. It is like " name that tune" for me. Each application is packaged uniquely not falsely like those crazy rich parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Mine got into P. as a rowing recruit from another elite private here. The only other kid who was accepted to P. her yearwas a kid who was Class Pres. for 6 years. That kid went elsewhere. I think your D.D. Has a shot. She needs to write exceptional essays + have exceptional references. It would help if she could get an award + do something cool like start online music classes for poor kids + start an instrument donation campaign. Good luck to her!

Isn't it way too late for a senior to start something and be taken seriously before college application season?

It's annoying how they start new non-profits rather than get credit for working for existing ones. I find it ridiculous for high school kids to be CEOs of these new non-profits, when they have enough on their plates to get through their classes.

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Anonymous wrote:Mine got into P. as a rowing recruit from another elite private here. The only other kid who was accepted to P. her yearwas a kid who was Class Pres. for 6 years. That kid went elsewhere. I think your D.D. Has a shot. She needs to write exceptional essays + have exceptional references. It would help if she could get an award + do something cool like start online music classes for poor kids + start an instrument donation campaign. Good luck to her!

Isn't it way too late for a senior to start something and be taken seriously before college application season?

In the age of Covid, rules are different. The essay could describe the urgent nature of poor people in particular needing music + have applicant raise emergency instrument donations. I have helped a lot of kids get into top schools by designing unique applications that the together + Build on their particular interests. It is like " name that tune" for me. Each application is packaged uniquely not falsely like those crazy rich parents.

You do this for free? Or do you charge those crazy rich parents for the packaging?

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Anonymous wrote:Mine got into P. as a rowing recruit from another elite private here. The only other kid who was accepted to P. her yearwas a kid who was Class Pres. for 6 years. That kid went elsewhere. I think your D.D. Has a shot. She needs to write exceptional essays + have exceptional references. It would help if she could get an award + do something cool like start online music classes for poor kids + start an instrument donation campaign. Good luck to her!

Isn't it way too late for a senior to start something and be taken seriously before college application season?

It's annoying how they start new non-profits rather than get credit for working for existing ones. I find it ridiculous for high school kids to be CEOs of these new non-profits, when they have enough on their plates to get through their classes.

They can get credit for working for existing ones. Mine showed a four year commitment to an established non- profit, among other accomplishments and was accepted.

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Anonymous wrote:Mine got into P. as a rowing recruit from another elite private here. The only other kid who was accepted to P. her yearwas a kid who was Class Pres. for 6 years. That kid went elsewhere. I think your D.D. Has a shot. She needs to write exceptional essays + have exceptional references. It would help if she could get an award + do something cool like start online music classes for poor kids + start an instrument donation campaign. Good luck to her!

Isn't it way too late for a senior to start something and be taken seriously before college application season?

It's annoying how they start new non-profits rather than get credit for working for existing ones. I find it ridiculous for high school kids to be CEOs of these new non-profits, when they have enough on their plates to get through their classes. [

I totally disagree! These young people have unique social media skills that old farts at stuffy nonprofits lack. They have fresh energy.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think she'll get in. My kid had better stats, and was a nmsf and a Princeton legacy, but nope. When we went on college tours the admissions officers talked about the kids they admitted like the rodeo rider or the nail polish researching female chemical engineering applicant. I think they get bored with the cascades of top 1-2 percent students who become a blur of strong grades. You can apply but be sure to manage expectations, and apply elsewhere.

This was my daughter. She went to Stanford and was a great student, high test scores, but seriously her interest was ... makeup. Like working in Sephora, the beauty industry, and all that stuff. She did zero other activities.

What's funny is she went to Stanford and now works for a big tech company that is attempting to launch to a huge online beauty brand...so I guess those you tube tutorials I hated paid off? Who knows.

How refreshing. I'm so over every other kid founding a nonprofit.lol

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Anonymous wrote:Mine got into P. as a rowing recruit from another elite private here. The only other kid who was accepted to P. her yearwas a kid who was Class Pres. for 6 years. That kid went elsewhere. I think your D.D. Has a shot. She needs to write exceptional essays + have exceptional references. It would help if she could get an award + do something cool like start online music classes for poor kids + start an instrument donation campaign. Good luck to her!

Isn't it way too late for a senior to start something and be taken seriously before college application season?

It's annoying how they start new non-profits rather than get credit for working for existing ones. I find it ridiculous for high school kids to be CEOs of these new non-profits, when they have enough on their plates to get through their classes.

They can get credit for working for existing ones. Mine showed a four year commitment to an established non- profit, among other accomplishments and was accepted.

That's the way it should be, and congrats to your kid. I think this "create a non-profit" thing came after the pay thousands to "volunteer in a developing country" trend. Hopefully the non-profit CEO thing disappears soon too.

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Working with an established non profit can be valuable. They may have learned how to work well with volunteers - organized, standardized training, clear expectations, opportunities to move up to greater responsibility over time.

Experience in not a bad thing. The kinks of how to have an organization work well for the volunteers, the staff and the clients has been worked out.

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Anonymous wrote:Mine got into P. as a rowing recruit from another elite private here. The only other kid who was accepted to P. her yearwas a kid who was Class Pres. for 6 years. That kid went elsewhere. I think your D.D. Has a shot. She needs to write exceptional essays + have exceptional references. It would help if she could get an award + do something cool like start online music classes for poor kids + start an instrument donation campaign. Good luck to her!

Isn't it way too late for a senior to start something and be taken seriously before college application season?

It's annoying how they start new non-profits rather than get credit for working for existing ones. I find it ridiculous for high school kids to be CEOs of these new non-profits, when they have enough on their plates to get through their classes.

They can get credit for working for existing ones. Mine showed a four year commitment to an established non- profit, among other accomplishments and was accepted.

That's the way it should be, and congrats to your kid. I think this "create a non-profit" thing came after the pay thousands to "volunteer in a developing country" trend. Hopefully the non-profit CEO thing disappears soon too.

I agree. What I think happened sometime in the last 5 or 6 years is it filtered down to ambitious kids coming up through high school as the thing you had to do. I clearly remember my dd informing me that "I have to start a non-profit to get into a good school" when she was all of 14 and I suggested she take a deep breath, step back, and figure out what was really important to her and do those things instead. She and another kid from her class are both at Y; they are quite different but they are both smart, creative kids who followed their own path throughout high school and did some really cool things with their time and energy. And neither started a non-profit.