Chances at HYP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bezos is the only one that actually graduated!

Thats entrepreneurs for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bezos is the only one that actually graduated!

He also wasn’t a programmer. He was at DE Shaw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bezos is the only one that actually graduated!

He also wasn’t a programmer. He was at DE Shaw.

At DE Shaw as a programmer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bezos is the only one that actually graduated!

He also wasn’t a programmer. He was at DE Shaw.

At DE Shaw as a programmer.

Ugh. No.

First, in the industry, the term is “developer” or “engineer.”

Second, he did work at a fintech startup in the early 90s. But he was doing finance at Bankers Trust and DE Shaw.

He was most definitely not Samir or Michael.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bezos is the only one that actually graduated!

He also wasn’t a programmer. He was at DE Shaw.

At DE Shaw as a programmer.

Ugh. No.

First, in the industry, the term is “developer” or “engineer.”

Second, he did work at a fintech startup in the early 90s. But he was doing finance at Bankers Trust and DE Shaw.

He was most definitely not Samir or Michael.

Interestingly you think "finance", "developer" and "programmer" are all distinctly separated jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure what percentage of URM students go to colleges and study hard-core STEM. That's where the money makers are, and where opportunities are for employment. This is also where this country is falling behind. We need more people to focus on these areas, hard science, not those easy snailoil soft subjects.

Actually most of the kids who ended up being the big money makers were not STEM. They are finance or business. Ended up working on Wall Street. Most STEM majors will never make as much money as the bankers and finance guys.

You're talking out of your ass. Last 20 years, all the big money went to engineer and CS nerds. Economics majoring frat boys are obsolete -- banks want engineers and some pretty girls in sales roles.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure what percentage of URM students go to colleges and study hard-core STEM. That's where the money makers are, and where opportunities are for employment. This is also where this country is falling behind. We need more people to focus on these areas, hard science, not those easy snailoil soft subjects.

Actually most of the kids who ended up being the big money makers were not STEM. They are finance or business. Ended up working on Wall Street. Most STEM majors will never make as much money as the bankers and finance guys.

You're talking out of your ass. Last 20 years, all the big money went to engineer and CS nerds. Economics majoring frat boys are obsolete -- banks want engineers and some pretty girls in sales roles.

Math 55 mom is baaaack.

[Anonymous]

HYP are very different — compared only to each other. But compared to US colleges/universities generally, they are way more alike than different. I say this having gotten degrees from 2 of the 3, as well as having studied and taught elsewhere.

So the challenge here is to identify other schools that have the elements of HYP that attract her but are easier to get into, because she can’t assume she’ll get into one of those 3. What’s the appeal? Size? Residential colleges? Resource-rich? Affluent/ambitious student body? Famous faculty? Diversity? History? Network? Depending on her answers (and her occupational goals), different alternatives will emerge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HYP are very different — compared only to each other. But compared to US colleges/universities generally, they are way more alike than different. I say this having gotten degrees from 2 of the 3, as well as having studied and taught elsewhere.

So the challenge here is to identify other schools that have the elements of HYP that attract her but are easier to get into, because she can’t assume she’ll get into one of those 3. What’s the appeal? Size? Residential colleges? Resource-rich? Affluent/ambitious student body? Famous faculty? Diversity? History? Network? Depending on her answers (and her occupational goals), different alternatives will emerge.

Not the OP. These are good criteria. Where can i find rankings based on these criteria so I can curate my own list?

[Anonymous]

I don’t think there’s a simple answer to your question. It’s a research project — maybe DC’s as much as yours. College counselor might be of help. Each college’s website will answer many of these questions but, of course, you have to know which college websites to look at. Residential colleges, for example, you could google for lists. Wrt Faculty, you can use grad school (if you know field)/university rankings (or components thereof) to some extent (or pay attention to affiliations of authors/lecturers whose work interests your DC).