HPV vaccine - did you get it for your son or daughter? If not, why?

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Anonymous wrote:For those that already had their kids get them, did they experience any side effects? Oldest is getting theirs in a couple weeks so I want to know what to expect. Thanks!


My three sons received the vaccine. No side effects. No complaints other than being annoyed that they had to wait for about 20 minutes in the doctor's office to make sure they didn't have any issues. They felt fine. I am glad I got them vaccinated.





That is the type of thing which gives pause to parents, don't you think?


My kids had to wait 30 minutes after they get EVERY vaccine. Not just this one. Jesus fing Christ.


WHAT?! NEVER. Neither me or my kids were ever asked to wait after vaccinations. Literally, vaccines administered by nurse after seen by doctor and then 'good to go'. What you describe is only routine for allergy shots.


Really? Our peds office gives the vaccines (ALL vaccines) first, precisely so you are still in the office for a while (I think it's 15 minutes, but I'm honestly not sure) Once when it was a really quick doctors visit, we had still had to wait to leave. I think that's pretty standard.
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Anonymous wrote:Sweet Jesus. Vaccines are NOT big money makers for pharmaceuticals. They make more money on drugs to treat illnesses. If they really wanted to screw people to make money they'd make meds to control not cure or prevent illness. I mean vaccinate your kid or don't but don't be upset when your daughter in law gets cervical cancer or your son gets throat cancer. I mean I cannot anymore with you people.


How many drugs do you know of that cure disease? Besides antibiotics for acute conditions, a vast majority of pharmaceuticals do control and do not cure. Many many oncologists will be happy to share examples. Vaccines are in fact money makers.

I don’t think anyone on this thread is anti vax ... I think it’s just some intelligent people wanting information and doing their own research instead of just blindly trusting the establishment. It’s okay to be an informed consumer for our health and our kids. In fact, we should be. Then you make calculated decisions based on unbiased evidence that you’ve weighed - cost benefit analysis. If you don’t, that’s totally cool too. And most likely that’s fine. But don’t get defensive or angry at people that want more information. It’s okay.


Perfectly stated- thank you.


Except they aren’t really doing their own research. None of these parents are running double-blind trials out of their homes or even following a statistically relevant cohort for 20 years. They are just reading what other people are posting online —often thirdhand.
Anonymous
lol at vaccines not being money makers. I work for a biotech that is working on a covid vaccine and trust me, there is LOADS of money to be made from it.
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Anonymous wrote:lol at vaccines not being money makers. I work for a biotech that is working on a covid vaccine and trust me, there is LOADS of money to be made from it.


and loads of money to be lost.
Anonymous
No side effects. Personally, I felt more comfortable having my son get it well before he'll be sexually active, as it kind of separates it. We're not doing it because you're about to have sex - we're doing it so sometime in the future, you won't have to worry about it.
Anonymous
Healthcare worker here. I once had a patient with HPV who went on to develop cervical cancer (and later died). She came from a country where virginity was expected upon marriage. Her husband was her one and only sexual partner. After her death, the husband was devastated and consumed with guilt, knowing that he likely gave her the virus which ultimately killed her.
Anonymous
I have gotten it when it just came out, it was a no brainer for me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sweet Jesus. Vaccines are NOT big money makers for pharmaceuticals. They make more money on drugs to treat illnesses. If they really wanted to screw people to make money they'd make meds to control not cure or prevent illness. I mean vaccinate your kid or don't but don't be upset when your daughter in law gets cervical cancer or your son gets throat cancer. I mean I cannot anymore with you people.


How many drugs do you know of that cure disease? Besides antibiotics for acute conditions, a vast majority of pharmaceuticals do control and do not cure. Many many oncologists will be happy to share examples. Vaccines are in fact money makers.

I don’t think anyone on this thread is anti vax ... I think it’s just some intelligent people wanting information and doing their own research instead of just blindly trusting the establishment. It’s okay to be an informed consumer for our health and our kids. In fact, we should be. Then you make calculated decisions based on unbiased evidence that you’ve weighed - cost benefit analysis. If you don’t, that’s totally cool too. And most likely that’s fine. But don’t get defensive or angry at people that want more information. It’s okay.


Perfectly stated- thank you.


Except they aren’t really doing their own research. None of these parents are running double-blind trials out of their homes or even following a statistically relevant cohort for 20 years. They are just reading what other people are posting online —often thirdhand.


Except I did, as many other parents. Not talking about the scary stories on Facebook about children who mysteriously became very ill after the HPV vaccine. It’s actually quite easy to research and find actual studies. NIH has an free electronic library of studies.
PubMed® comprises more than 30 million citations for biomedical literature from MEDLINE, life science journals, and online books.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

For my family, I saw the scary Facebook stories so I researched. I read several scientific studies / articles that gave me more information and the data supported that the vaccine is very low risk. The amount of people that had reactions to the vaccine we’re almost the same as those that had reactions to the placebo. However, I still followed up with my pediatrician and asked her opinion. She has two teenage children herself. She gave her children the vaccines and advised me to give my children the vaccines. My older son has been vaccinated, my younger son will when he is 12.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Sweet Jesus. Vaccines are NOT big money makers for pharmaceuticals. They make more money on drugs to treat illnesses. If they really wanted to screw people to make money they'd make meds to control not cure or prevent illness. I mean vaccinate your kid or don't but don't be upset when your daughter in law gets cervical cancer or your son gets throat cancer. I mean I cannot anymore with you people.


How many drugs do you know of that cure disease? Besides antibiotics for acute conditions, a vast majority of pharmaceuticals do control and do not cure. Many many oncologists will be happy to share examples. Vaccines are in fact money makers.

I don’t think anyone on this thread is anti vax ... I think it’s just some intelligent people wanting information and doing their own research instead of just blindly trusting the establishment. It’s okay to be an informed consumer for our health and our kids. In fact, we should be. Then you make calculated decisions based on unbiased evidence that you’ve weighed - cost benefit analysis. If you don’t, that’s totally cool too. And most likely that’s fine. But don’t get defensive or angry at people that want more information. It’s okay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sweet Jesus. Vaccines are NOT big money makers for pharmaceuticals. They make more money on drugs to treat illnesses. If they really wanted to screw people to make money they'd make meds to control not cure or prevent illness. I mean vaccinate your kid or don't but don't be upset when your daughter in law gets cervical cancer or your son gets throat cancer. I mean I cannot anymore with you people.


How many drugs do you know of that cure disease? Besides antibiotics for acute conditions, a vast majority of pharmaceuticals do control and do not cure. Many many oncologists will be happy to share examples. Vaccines are in fact money makers.

I don’t think anyone on this thread is anti vax ... I think it’s just some intelligent people wanting information and doing their own research instead of just blindly trusting the establishment. It’s okay to be an informed consumer for our health and our kids. In fact, we should be. Then you make calculated decisions based on unbiased evidence that you’ve weighed - cost benefit analysis. If you don’t, that’s totally cool too. And most likely that’s fine. But don’t get defensive or angry at people that want more information. It’s okay.


"Doing own research" on the internet is not a sign of intelligent people.
Anonymous
So my 12-year old and 14-year old son got their first HPV vaccine 3 hours ago.

14-year old - arm only mildly sore.

12-year old- got glassy eyed at dinner and flushed face (2 hours after shot) and says he has a headache. His arm was also much more sore than his older brother.

We just gave 12-year old Tylenol for headache and I’m watching him to see how he’s doing.

I work in vaccine and opted out prior years due to potential side effects (they have gotten every other vaccine on time with zero hesitation from me and get a flu shot every fall). The HPV vaccine gave me pause because there was a lot more out there about potential side effects.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the hpv vaccines was developed by a company in MD. I knew someone who worked there while it was in development. She told me about some scary stuff they discovered but defended that the pros outweigh the cons. She has not given the shot to her kids.

A relative got very ill after the first shot. The doctors said there’s no way to prove the shot caused his chronic health issues. Google hpv and chronic headache.


Ok sure, but you need to provide more information than "scary stuff."


Google it.

Like I said: a local company developed it; I don’t want to out anyone.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sweet Jesus. Vaccines are NOT big money makers for pharmaceuticals. They make more money on drugs to treat illnesses. If they really wanted to screw people to make money they'd make meds to control not cure or prevent illness. I mean vaccinate your kid or don't but don't be upset when your daughter in law gets cervical cancer or your son gets throat cancer. I mean I cannot anymore with you people.


How many drugs do you know of that cure disease? Besides antibiotics for acute conditions, a vast majority of pharmaceuticals do control and do not cure. Many many oncologists will be happy to share examples. Vaccines are in fact money makers.

I don’t think anyone on this thread is anti vax ... I think it’s just some intelligent people wanting information and doing their own research instead of just blindly trusting the establishment. It’s okay to be an informed consumer for our health and our kids. In fact, we should be. Then you make calculated decisions based on unbiased evidence that you’ve weighed - cost benefit analysis. If you don’t, that’s totally cool too. And most likely that’s fine. But don’t get defensive or angry at people that want more information. It’s okay.


Perfectly stated- thank you.


Except they aren’t really doing their own research. None of these parents are running double-blind trials out of their homes or even following a statistically relevant cohort for 20 years. They are just reading what other people are posting online —often thirdhand.


Except I did, as many other parents. Not talking about the scary stories on Facebook about children who mysteriously became very ill after the HPV vaccine. It’s actually quite easy to research and find actual studies. NIH has an free electronic library of studies.
PubMed® comprises more than 30 million citations for biomedical literature from MEDLINE, life science journals, and online books.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

For my family, I saw the scary Facebook stories so I researched. I read several scientific studies / articles that gave me more information and the data supported that the vaccine is very low risk. The amount of people that had reactions to the vaccine we’re almost the same as those that had reactions to the placebo. However, I still followed up with my pediatrician and asked her opinion. She has two teenage children herself. She gave her children the vaccines and advised me to give my children the vaccines. My older son has been vaccinated, my younger son will when he is 12.


That is not your own research. That is reading someone else’s research.
Anonymous
I tried to ask my daughter’s pediatrician if there was more risk with the HPV vaccine than other vaccines. I got a lot of pushback, and no real answers. I am pro-vaccine, and it was a legitimate question. I hate that The rabid anti-vaxxers have made it impossible to have an informed conversation about this.
Anonymous
No I rolled my eyes when our doctor suggested it for my the. 11 yr old and said “ Really? “

She dropped it very quickly

People get irrationally enraged over the suggestion that a middle schooler doesn’t need this vaccine and they don’t even understand how silky they look!

The reason that the vaccine is recommend so early has nothing to do with science and everything to do with the fact that middle school parents are a captive audience much like all vaccines being give . Regular checkups and doctor visits trickle off in teen years. Pediatricians push the vax at ages 10-12 not due to science or medical necessity but bc they know that they are less likely to get parents to bring their child for routine check ups in the coming years.

Vaccines are effective.
They don’t actually have a time line or expiration - if not given at age 2 forget it! Worthless! but this is the irrational thinking that so many people believe.

How can it be possible that a vaccine is only effective if administered at age 11 ? But the same vaccine given at age 15 or 18, would now be crap?
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