LMVSC town hall

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Anonymous wrote:We had a kid at alexandria and here’s how their academy works - no idea how it will be implemented at LMVSC:

- head coach has the red team
- one coach per team on other teams
-Your color/team coach is your primary coach/point of contact
-all teams of the age group practice same days and times
- all teams follow same curriculum (same drills and skills each practice)
- sometimes teams scrimmage (usually one team up or down)
- sometimes a coach might run a station and teams rotate through as a group with their same level teammates
-sometimes games or teams happen with mixed level groups where coaches can see players from other teams
- sometimes players guest play on other teams

There’s not a ton of mid season movement or anything radical, but there is some mixing and scrimmages

Thank you for your input, but Alexandria has a waiting list for top teams, who if there is no space, go to a second but equally competitive team and so on 'til your fourth team.
LMVSC doesn't have that at all. We barely have two teams for each age group and currently the girls do better than the boys. To be honest, many parents are upset because we somehow still long for the old competitive LMVSC. We just need to accept the Club's reality and either accept it or move on...

If you feel your son or daughter is ready for a more competitive environment, as someone pointed out, there are plenty of clubs in the area.

Good points. A few years ago, Alexandria also struggled to be competitive. This is not Alexandria but maybe this is how they view their rebuild. If the teams are as not top notch as in prior years than they are also not going to bring in talent from outside. It's almost impossible to recruit during this pandemic. Maybe they think that players will improve as they compete with each other to once again start having some competitive teams.

I was on the town-hall. This is part of the problem: they haven't explained to us the standardization at all. Does doing the quickest L-turns get my kid onto red team that weekend? Does it take multiple weeks? Are these subjective views of coaches or objective measurables? It was asked and they voiced they'll follow it up. Nothing. If they are thinking what your last sentence indicates, I'm fine with them thinking that but it just sounds like using somebody else's idea that worked in their club. Alexandria has that, and we don't.

And again, they're holding academy coaches to "view white team at least one time", because "you can really get a sense of the kid in a game environment." Sounds to me like judging what a kid really looks like one time. What if we're playing Arlington or other good teams? What if we're low on attendance, which happens all the time, and my kid has to play GK or a position he doesn't want to?

Last year, they told us "coaches will only get a team for two years, because we want our kids to get exposure". Look at the coaching slate. I was here when we were competitive, I stayed this year, and I see same coaches again for some teams in their third year. It's insulting to be misled.

In my opinion, soccer decisions are always subjective to the person making it and not everyone is going to agree. Don’t think they will sit there with a stop watch and compare every single kid and the fastest 10 get top teams. Like you said, game environment is not everything and in this model your kid will be seen a lot more. They will train at same place and time. The two year coach thing is not as big of deal to me, that wouldn’t be a reason for me to leave unless I was unhappy w my ds coach.

I didn't say "game environment is not everything". I believe in fact it was Lee who said "game environment is when you can really see the kid", but Lee and Jon were the ones that said "at least one game a year". Not even a season. YEAR. This will end up being red team training together and white team training together. One coach in charge of them all instead of one coach per team, working on developing the individual and fusing a team. Like so many have said. This either is a lie to the white teams or it's going to weaken the red teams. I think weaken the red teams, since most of the players that left were red players.

If any come back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had a kid at alexandria and here’s how their academy works - no idea how it will be implemented at LMVSC:

- head coach has the red team
- one coach per team on other teams
-Your color/team coach is your primary coach/point of contact
-all teams of the age group practice same days and times
- all teams follow same curriculum (same drills and skills each practice)
- sometimes teams scrimmage (usually one team up or down)
- sometimes a coach might run a station and teams rotate through as a group with their same level teammates
-sometimes games or teams happen with mixed level groups where coaches can see players from other teams
- sometimes players guest play on other teams

There’s not a ton of mid season movement or anything radical, but there is some mixing and scrimmages

Thank you for your input, but Alexandria has a waiting list for top teams, who if there is no space, go to a second but equally competitive team and so on 'til your fourth team.
LMVSC doesn't have that at all. We barely have two teams for each age group and currently the girls do better than the boys. To be honest, many parents are upset because we somehow still long for the old competitive LMVSC. We just need to accept the Club's reality and either accept it or move on...

If you feel your son or daughter is ready for a more competitive environment, as someone pointed out, there are plenty of clubs in the area.

Good points. A few years ago, Alexandria also struggled to be competitive. This is not Alexandria but maybe this is how they view their rebuild. If the teams are as not top notch as in prior years than they are also not going to bring in talent from outside. It's almost impossible to recruit during this pandemic. Maybe they think that players will improve as they compete with each other to once again start having some competitive teams.

I was on the town-hall. This is part of the problem: they haven't explained to us the standardization at all. Does doing the quickest L-turns get my kid onto red team that weekend? Does it take multiple weeks? Are these subjective views of coaches or objective measurables? It was asked and they voiced they'll follow it up. Nothing. If they are thinking what your last sentence indicates, I'm fine with them thinking that but it just sounds like using somebody else's idea that worked in their club. Alexandria has that, and we don't.

And again, they're holding academy coaches to "view white team at least one time", because "you can really get a sense of the kid in a game environment." Sounds to me like judging what a kid really looks like one time. What if we're playing Arlington or other good teams? What if we're low on attendance, which happens all the time, and my kid has to play GK or a position he doesn't want to?

Last year, they told us "coaches will only get a team for two years, because we want our kids to get exposure". Look at the coaching slate. I was here when we were competitive, I stayed this year, and I see same coaches again for some teams in their third year. It's insulting to be misled.

In my opinion, soccer decisions are always subjective to the person making it and not everyone is going to agree. Don’t think they will sit there with a stop watch and compare every single kid and the fastest 10 get top teams. Like you said, game environment is not everything and in this model your kid will be seen a lot more. They will train at same place and time. The two year coach thing is not as big of deal to me, that wouldn’t be a reason for me to leave unless I was unhappy w my ds coach.

I didn't say "game environment is not everything". I believe in fact it was Lee who said "game environment is when you can really see the kid", but Lee and Jon were the ones that said "at least one game a year". Not even a season. YEAR. This will end up being red team training together and white team training together. One coach in charge of them all instead of one coach per team, working on developing the individual and fusing a team. Like so many have said. This either is a lie to the white teams or it's going to weaken the red teams. I think weaken the red teams, since most of the players that left were red players.

If any come back.

Got it. Until they explain we are all going to assume what is or isn’t. I too wonder if any of those that left will return. Even harder to tell without tryouts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had a kid at alexandria and here’s how their academy works - no idea how it will be implemented at LMVSC:

- head coach has the red team
- one coach per team on other teams
-Your color/team coach is your primary coach/point of contact
-all teams of the age group practice same days and times
- all teams follow same curriculum (same drills and skills each practice)
- sometimes teams scrimmage (usually one team up or down)
- sometimes a coach might run a station and teams rotate through as a group with their same level teammates
-sometimes games or teams happen with mixed level groups where coaches can see players from other teams
- sometimes players guest play on other teams

There’s not a ton of mid season movement or anything radical, but there is some mixing and scrimmages

Thank you for your input, but Alexandria has a waiting list for top teams, who if there is no space, go to a second but equally competitive team and so on 'til your fourth team.
LMVSC doesn't have that at all. We barely have two teams for each age group and currently the girls do better than the boys. To be honest, many parents are upset because we somehow still long for the old competitive LMVSC. We just need to accept the Club's reality and either accept it or move on...

If you feel your son or daughter is ready for a more competitive environment, as someone pointed out, there are plenty of clubs in the area.

Good points. A few years ago, Alexandria also struggled to be competitive. This is not Alexandria but maybe this is how they view their rebuild. If the teams are as not top notch as in prior years than they are also not going to bring in talent from outside. It's almost impossible to recruit during this pandemic. Maybe they think that players will improve as they compete with each other to once again start having some competitive teams.

I was on the town-hall. This is part of the problem: they haven't explained to us the standardization at all. Does doing the quickest L-turns get my kid onto red team that weekend? Does it take multiple weeks? Are these subjective views of coaches or objective measurables? It was asked and they voiced they'll follow it up. Nothing. If they are thinking what your last sentence indicates, I'm fine with them thinking that but it just sounds like using somebody else's idea that worked in their club. Alexandria has that, and we don't.

And again, they're holding academy coaches to "view white team at least one time", because "you can really get a sense of the kid in a game environment." Sounds to me like judging what a kid really looks like one time. What if we're playing Arlington or other good teams? What if we're low on attendance, which happens all the time, and my kid has to play GK or a position he doesn't want to?

Last year, they told us "coaches will only get a team for two years, because we want our kids to get exposure". Look at the coaching slate. I was here when we were competitive, I stayed this year, and I see same coaches again for some teams in their third year. It's insulting to be misled.

The occasional "white" player playing with the "red" team didn't happen last year or any previous year. But year after year, the Club continues to make it a selling point. Red teams and coaches focus on their own team, red teams and player don't care to have a white player in their team specially when you already have a full roster. Practicing side by side it's just that, practicing at the same time side by side. I've seen Alexandria teams at practice and it is hard to tell which team is which, very competitive. See their stats then look at our stats for each level.

PLEASE stop comparing LMVSC to Alexandria. A Red player would be lucky to get a spot in their 2nd or 3rd tier there!

My kid was on white, the team practiced with Red, and several White players played games with the Red team. My kid was one of them. Just because it didn’t happen to your kid doesn’t mean it didn’t happen at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had a kid at alexandria and here’s how their academy works - no idea how it will be implemented at LMVSC:

- head coach has the red team
- one coach per team on other teams
-Your color/team coach is your primary coach/point of contact
-all teams of the age group practice same days and times
- all teams follow same curriculum (same drills and skills each practice)
- sometimes teams scrimmage (usually one team up or down)
- sometimes a coach might run a station and teams rotate through as a group with their same level teammates
-sometimes games or teams happen with mixed level groups where coaches can see players from other teams
- sometimes players guest play on other teams

There’s not a ton of mid season movement or anything radical, but there is some mixing and scrimmages

Thank you for your input, but Alexandria has a waiting list for top teams, who if there is no space, go to a second but equally competitive team and so on 'til your fourth team.
LMVSC doesn't have that at all. We barely have two teams for each age group and currently the girls do better than the boys. To be honest, many parents are upset because we somehow still long for the old competitive LMVSC. We just need to accept the Club's reality and either accept it or move on...

If you feel your son or daughter is ready for a more competitive environment, as someone pointed out, there are plenty of clubs in the area.

Good points. A few years ago, Alexandria also struggled to be competitive. This is not Alexandria but maybe this is how they view their rebuild. If the teams are as not top notch as in prior years than they are also not going to bring in talent from outside. It's almost impossible to recruit during this pandemic. Maybe they think that players will improve as they compete with each other to once again start having some competitive teams.

...why would a parent talk about recruiting?

This "parent" is either heavily invested in the youth soccer scene, or, is not a parent. Given the first-person view of "it's almost impossible to recruit during this pandemic", it's so transparent that it's a coach or staff. Which tells you all you need to know. It's not about community and it never was, otherwise we would've been surveyed a bit more of what we want this club to be. They're trying to generate buzz and excitement to keep us in, while at the same time advocating in bringing in new players. Nothing more needed to see.

[Anonymous]

All this arguing for a fall season that's not going to happen... You're at best going to get team training, most likely with all sort of restrictions that will kill the fun of the game. LMVSC does this, SYC does that, Alexandria blah, blah, blah... Get a grip. You're arguing about who you want to give your money to when in 6 months you'll be asking for a refund from all of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All this arguing for a fall season that's not going to happen... You're at best going to get team training, most likely with all sort of restrictions that will kill the fun of the game. LMVSC does this, SYC does that, Alexandria blah, blah, blah... Get a grip. You're arguing about who you want to give your money to when in 6 months you'll be asking for a refund from all of them.

Please don't bring up refunds--that's a very sensitive subject. Still waiting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had a kid at alexandria and here’s how their academy works - no idea how it will be implemented at LMVSC:

- head coach has the red team
- one coach per team on other teams
-Your color/team coach is your primary coach/point of contact
-all teams of the age group practice same days and times
- all teams follow same curriculum (same drills and skills each practice)
- sometimes teams scrimmage (usually one team up or down)
- sometimes a coach might run a station and teams rotate through as a group with their same level teammates
-sometimes games or teams happen with mixed level groups where coaches can see players from other teams
- sometimes players guest play on other teams

There’s not a ton of mid season movement or anything radical, but there is some mixing and scrimmages

Thank you for your input, but Alexandria has a waiting list for top teams, who if there is no space, go to a second but equally competitive team and so on 'til your fourth team.
LMVSC doesn't have that at all. We barely have two teams for each age group and currently the girls do better than the boys. To be honest, many parents are upset because we somehow still long for the old competitive LMVSC. We just need to accept the Club's reality and either accept it or move on...

If you feel your son or daughter is ready for a more competitive environment, as someone pointed out, there are plenty of clubs in the area.

Good points. A few years ago, Alexandria also struggled to be competitive. This is not Alexandria but maybe this is how they view their rebuild. If the teams are as not top notch as in prior years than they are also not going to bring in talent from outside. It's almost impossible to recruit during this pandemic. Maybe they think that players will improve as they compete with each other to once again start having some competitive teams.

...why would a parent talk about recruiting?

This "parent" is either heavily invested in the youth soccer scene, or, is not a parent. Given the first-person view of "it's almost impossible to recruit during this pandemic", it's so transparent that it's a coach or staff. Which tells you all you need to know. It's not about community and it never was, otherwise we would've been surveyed a bit more of what we want this club to be. They're trying to generate buzz and excitement to keep us in, while at the same time advocating in bringing in new players. Nothing more needed to see.

Ha ha, I think every thread on this board has the same thing happen where people automatically call out staff or coach when someone disagrees or is ok with what the opposition is doing. Fake News.

[Anonymous]

lol yeah... it's just 'parents' hopping on giving details of how this 'academy' will work, while at the same time other 'parents' are supporting this system they haven't seen yet, and yet more 'parents' talking about how hard it is to recruit players right now. And several of these 'parents' just happen to be outside of the club.

lol, i'll look at your record this past season. tells me the future

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had a kid at alexandria and here’s how their academy works - no idea how it will be implemented at LMVSC:

- head coach has the red team
- one coach per team on other teams
-Your color/team coach is your primary coach/point of contact
-all teams of the age group practice same days and times
- all teams follow same curriculum (same drills and skills each practice)
- sometimes teams scrimmage (usually one team up or down)
- sometimes a coach might run a station and teams rotate through as a group with their same level teammates
-sometimes games or teams happen with mixed level groups where coaches can see players from other teams
- sometimes players guest play on other teams

There’s not a ton of mid season movement or anything radical, but there is some mixing and scrimmages

Thank you for your input, but Alexandria has a waiting list for top teams, who if there is no space, go to a second but equally competitive team and so on 'til your fourth team.
LMVSC doesn't have that at all. We barely have two teams for each age group and currently the girls do better than the boys. To be honest, many parents are upset because we somehow still long for the old competitive LMVSC. We just need to accept the Club's reality and either accept it or move on...

If you feel your son or daughter is ready for a more competitive environment, as someone pointed out, there are plenty of clubs in the area.

Good points. A few years ago, Alexandria also struggled to be competitive. This is not Alexandria but maybe this is how they view their rebuild. If the teams are as not top notch as in prior years than they are also not going to bring in talent from outside. It's almost impossible to recruit during this pandemic. Maybe they think that players will improve as they compete with each other to once again start having some competitive teams.

...why would a parent talk about recruiting?

This "parent" is either heavily invested in the youth soccer scene, or, is not a parent. Given the first-person view of "it's almost impossible to recruit during this pandemic", it's so transparent that it's a coach or staff. Which tells you all you need to know. It's not about community and it never was, otherwise we would've been surveyed a bit more of what we want this club to be. They're trying to generate buzz and excitement to keep us in, while at the same time advocating in bringing in new players. Nothing more needed to see.

Parents heavily invested in the soccer scene left the club already...I'd go with this is not a parent! LOL.

[Anonymous]

For the record, i posted the bit about how academy worked at alexandria. Mainly to say that there wasn’t nearly the amount of interaction anyone is concerned about. It wasn’t he red coach trying to watch 3-6 teams all at once - it was a red coach providing oversight, setting an agenda and listening to complaints from parents from every team in their age group. Also it’s the only academy model I’ve seen and may be one more than some others have seen. So it’s the only thing i could draw on to be helpful.

And I am an actual parent, not a coach.

and i have no idea what LMVSC is planning for their interpretation of academy because i couldn’t understand what anyone meant at the town hall any better than the rest of you... All i can tell you is what I’ve seen before and then i don’t see how it works in age groups with one team. And i suspect not much will change with other age groups, but i guess we’ll see if soccer even starts up again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the record, i posted the bit about how academy worked at alexandria. Mainly to say that there wasn’t nearly the amount of interaction anyone is concerned about. It wasn’t he red coach trying to watch 3-6 teams all at once - it was a red coach providing oversight, setting an agenda and listening to complaints from parents from every team in their age group. Also it’s the only academy model I’ve seen and may be one more than some others have seen. So it’s the only thing i could draw on to be helpful.

And I am an actual parent, not a coach.

and i have no idea what LMVSC is planning for their interpretation of academy because i couldn’t understand what anyone meant at the town hall any better than the rest of you... All i can tell you is what I’ve seen before and then i don’t see how it works in age groups with one team. And i suspect not much will change with other age groups, but i guess we’ll see if soccer even starts up again.

Alexandria sounds great, I should check it out. They’ve been an academy for quite some time they must be well-established.

Did your kids used to play there? If so, why leave?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the record, i posted the bit about how academy worked at alexandria. Mainly to say that there wasn’t nearly the amount of interaction anyone is concerned about. It wasn’t he red coach trying to watch 3-6 teams all at once - it was a red coach providing oversight, setting an agenda and listening to complaints from parents from every team in their age group. Also it’s the only academy model I’ve seen and may be one more than some others have seen. So it’s the only thing i could draw on to be helpful.

And I am an actual parent, not a coach.

and i have no idea what LMVSC is planning for their interpretation of academy because i couldn’t understand what anyone meant at the town hall any better than the rest of you... All i can tell you is what I’ve seen before and then i don’t see how it works in age groups with one team. And i suspect not much will change with other age groups, but i guess we’ll see if soccer even starts up again.

Alexandria sounds great, I should check it out. They’ve been an academy for quite some time they must be well-established.

Did your kids used to play there? If so, why leave?

I can’t believe it’s Memorial Day Weekend already. Wish we could be on the field watching our DS/DD play in tournaments. What are the plans now that Fairfax County opened park entrances? Gonna leave the forum and go play some pick up games with our kids?

[Anonymous]

Of all clubs why is lmvs relevant again? Are they having problems with another club!

[Anonymous]

"I can’t believe it’s Memorial Day Weekend already. Wish we could be on the field watching our DS/DD play in tournaments. What are the plans now that Fairfax County opened park entrances? Gonna leave the forum and go play some pick up games with our kids?"

Would love to! Where can we play in Northern VA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the record, i posted the bit about how academy worked at alexandria. Mainly to say that there wasn’t nearly the amount of interaction anyone is concerned about. It wasn’t he red coach trying to watch 3-6 teams all at once - it was a red coach providing oversight, setting an agenda and listening to complaints from parents from every team in their age group. Also it’s the only academy model I’ve seen and may be one more than some others have seen. So it’s the only thing i could draw on to be helpful.

And I am an actual parent, not a coach.

and i have no idea what LMVSC is planning for their interpretation of academy because i couldn’t understand what anyone meant at the town hall any better than the rest of you... All i can tell you is what I’ve seen before and then i don’t see how it works in age groups with one team. And i suspect not much will change with other age groups, but i guess we’ll see if soccer even starts up again.

Alexandria sounds great, I should check it out. They’ve been an academy for quite some time they must be well-established.

Did your kids used to play there? If so, why leave?

DP. Because my kids are girls and the Alexandria girls’ teams are not competitive for those who want to play in college, starting around U13. But Alexandria was great before that.