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Anonymous
I don’t think this was harmful for anyone. The red team spends the majority of their time with the red coach. Sometimes there are stations where they work with other coaches who might teach them new things (beneficial). Sometimes they scrimmage against the white team (beneficial for both because they need game experience and who else will they play?). Sometimes (not often) they will play in mixed groups (beneficial to learn to play with different teammates and adapt to their strengths and weaknesses. The red coach has oversight over the other coaches but that just means he/she sets the training agenda and is kind of keeping half an eye on things. This doesn’t mean that the coach is distracted from coaching their own team - It does mean that any sort of BS of coaches trying not to work with others in their age group is eliminated. I’ve had kids on both ends of the spectrum (top/bottom teams) and it was fine for all of them. I generally feel like it’s so bad for people in the same age group to be practicing at different days and times, so having them all in the same place makes sense, in reality there is not tons of crossover in the academy model. |
Anonymous
Signed, LMVSC |
Anonymous
Never really understood comments like this - seems if you're for something a club is doing you must be part of it or something. That post wasn't even arguing for the program, just telling their experience at ANOTHER club. I'm not even sure I'd call what Alexandria does academy style from my definition. Yes the age groups have practice at the same time and location and they use the same curriculum, but aside from scrimmaging each other from time to time, or running stations - honestly, aside from the curriculum part, I'd want that from any club. LMVSC, from what was posted earlier in the thread has more of a true academy style in mind. There are pros and cons. |
Anonymous
Not PP. Were you on the call? Because there was no level of detail as to what you're prescribing. Staff spending more time answering on these anonymous boards than they were during townhall. There was no discussion as to how or why this will benefit our community. I've taken some time to review their coaching slate and notes I took during townhall. Academy coach has the red squad, and then team coaches are mentored by the academy coach for white and blue squads (if there are more than one team in age group). How is it going to work coaching red squad, mentoring team coach, and then coaching another team? I asked for clarity when time comes to time consideration, and it wasn't addressed. I pressed for more details on training 'standardization' and it wasn't addressed. |
Anonymous
| The only parents that are against this style are the Red team parents who have kids ranked 7 thru 18. The top 5 are fine and not threatened. The bottom talent scared $h!tless their little Johnny will have his confidence shattered if moved down to white. Its the pink elephant in the room nobody wants to be honest and talk about. |
Anonymous
| PP from immediately above. In all reality, it doesn't matter to me. Seeing the older age groups, I can see where the path is headed. Like others, I also stuck around this season. After after dissatisfaction from the way age group training was changed last spring and into this season, to now seeing it implemented entirely, I just can't agree with this 'model'. It's not even a model, there's no supporting evidence for the assertions listed. I love my community, and nothing will change that. Especially not the name of the club my kid develops soccer from. I wish you the best, but the paying members of the club weren't consulted and the future of my kid wasn't considered. |
Anonymous
Let's be honest, the majority of those coaches last spring are no longer even here and probably didn't really care to implement. The club was going through so much change last spring that everyone was just worried about who was going or staying. I personally didn't experience this as my DS team did not have anywhere close to this approach last spring. Their team continued to train by themselves as they did in the Fall so I can't say whether this worked for them or not. Was this only done for the younger age groups? I didn't hear it implemented anywhere this season as you mentioned but this model can't be the same as what they do once a week when they bring everyone together. |
Anonymous
Oh? Like showcasing with a 2nd team level field player on goal without even wearing goalie gloves? Last season DD was getting got offers, this season no coaches even showed. I don’t think an “academy” is going to fix that. This won’t fix the problems; it will only reduce opportunities. |
Anonymous
Thank you for your input, but Alexandria has a waiting list for top teams, who if there is no space, go to a second but equally competitive team and so on 'til your fourth team. LMVSC doesn't have that at all. We barely have two teams for each age group and currently the girls do better than the boys. To be honest, many parents are upset because we somehow still long for the old competitive LMVSC. We just need to accept the Club's reality and either accept it or move on... If you feel your son or daughter is ready for a more competitive environment, as someone pointed out, there are plenty of clubs in the area. |
Anonymous
Good points. A few years ago, Alexandria also struggled to be competitive. This is not Alexandria but maybe this is how they view their rebuild. If the teams are as not top notch as in prior years than they are also not going to bring in talent from outside. It's almost impossible to recruit during this pandemic. Maybe they think that players will improve as they compete with each other to once again start having some competitive teams. |
Anonymous
I was on the town-hall. This is part of the problem: they haven't explained to us the standardization at all. Does doing the quickest L-turns get my kid onto red team that weekend? Does it take multiple weeks? Are these subjective views of coaches or objective measurables? It was asked and they voiced they'll follow it up. Nothing. If they are thinking what your last sentence indicates, I'm fine with them thinking that but it just sounds like using somebody else's idea that worked in their club. Alexandria has that, and we don't. And again, they're holding academy coaches to "view white team at least one time", because "you can really get a sense of the kid in a game environment." Sounds to me like judging what a kid really looks like one time. What if we're playing Arlington or other good teams? What if we're low on attendance, which happens all the time, and my kid has to play GK or a position he doesn't want to? Last year, they told us "coaches will only get a team for two years, because we want our kids to get exposure". Look at the coaching slate. I was here when we were competitive, I stayed this year, and I see same coaches again for some teams in their third year. It's insulting to be misled. |
Anonymous
...why would a parent talk about recruiting? |
Anonymous
In my opinion, soccer decisions are always subjective to the person making it and not everyone is going to agree. Don’t think they will sit there with a stop watch and compare every single kid and the fastest 10 get top teams. Like you said, game environment is not everything and in this model your kid will be seen a lot more. They will train at same place and time. The two year coach thing is not as big of deal to me, that wouldn’t be a reason for me to leave unless I was unhappy w my ds coach. |
Anonymous
How else would a club or coach bring in new players if the club is not a top destination? |
Anonymous
The occasional "white" player playing with the "red" team didn't happen last year or any previous year. But year after year, the Club continues to make it a selling point. Red teams and coaches focus on their own team, red teams and player don't care to have a white player in their team specially when you already have a full roster. Practicing side by side it's just that, practicing at the same time side by side. I've seen Alexandria teams at practice and it is hard to tell which team is which, very competitive. See their stats then look at our stats for each level. PLEASE stop comparing LMVSC to Alexandria. A Red player would be lucky to get a spot in their 2nd or 3rd tier there! |