Breaking Baltimore union in Celtic join GA

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Anonymous wrote:Who really cares?!? All these teams are now allowed and will play each other in tournaments unlike the past couple of years. MD United vs FCV at older ages should be great to watch.

Jeff Cup should be really fun moving forward. Expect to fly out to California or Dallas at least one more time per year...

As much as you like it or hate it, YouthSoccerRankings.us will now even be more accurate thanks to cross play tournaments with GA and ECNL. NBC Sports bought YSR last year.

The next big Domino to fall is if anyone can make a run at GotSoccer.com.

Let’s just hope the management at GA doesn’t make the same bad decisions that the DA did.

All of this. It will become evident that in short order the quality of the team will matter more than the league.

All you GA people have lost your minds. This is really sad. Please tell me these are 06-08 parents running this forum. If not....

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Are there any stories of similar club agreements that parents have encountered, and how did those pan out? From the outside looking in, it seems like it will be pretty chaotic for the players/teams and parents during this transition. Does this happen a lot in youth sports?

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Anonymous wrote:Bwahaha, Union Dudes owned you on every response in the most eloquent way possible. Pretty cool to see someone destroy a troll like you without calling you names like a middle schooler. Nice work bro.

Best thread in a month!

LOL you are a complete idiot and probably the same person as fake union mom. And no.

Bro swing it, but here you are still tossing names like my 7th grade boy, because you was backed into a corner with truth by a wordsmith and you flopping around yellin liar and callin names. You’re thirsty for a schoolin and he gave it to you. Seriously epic.

My man never said nothing positive about the ECNL but you fixiate my man. Settle in, drink the honest and chill. You lookin weak mind and body bro, my guess is that’s why the fish don’t bite that hook bro.

"wordsmith" You may not be able to carry an argument, or have a clue, but you are hilarious!!

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any stories of similar club agreements that parents have encountered, and how did those pan out? From the outside looking in, it seems like it will be pretty chaotic for the players/teams and parents during this transition. Does this happen a lot in youth sports?

Richmond and VDA. It is pretty simple really. The combined team is the top team representing both clubs. You tryout for the team and if you don’t make it you play for your host clubs team instead.

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Anonymous wrote:Celtic has strong girls 05 team and BU has strong 04 team. Outside of that, I really don’t know what they have to offer.

The same Celtic 05's that didn't have a shot on goal vs. Wold Class ECNL, or got smoked vs Philly SC in NL play? and BU's 04's that struggled against Pipelines 2nd team, and got shut out vs. Sunrise Primes 2nd team behind their ECNL squad and gave up like 50 goals vs Delaware FC? That strong BU 04 squad?

Yeah things just got interesting hahaha....

Wow. You the local Baltimore girls soccer archivist or just a rival parent with an axe to grind? Your intense disgust is clear.

Nope a parent that has a niece that plays on Celtic 05's and a neighbor that plays for BU's 04's. They are both average at best NL teams. we all know it. Just confirms that GA is nothing more than the National League at best. BU's 03's are at least competitive. Celtics 03's are possibly the worst team in the state. Maybe combined we can field some better teams.

If true from their later posts, this BU parent didn't bother to destroy their own daughter's 03 team, but gladly targeted the other BU club teams, and then conveniently left out their own family's connection to the club. Makes no sense that they would not be supportive of the club's effort to raise the level of play and college opportunities for both BU and Baltimore Celtics. They made no argument that they wanted anything more challenging for their DD or her teammates than they now have. They seemed angry with the news and content with the status quo, which is understandable especially for the final HS year age group.

Is it simply that you are upset that your DD's travel team and social network may get disrupted with this change? If so, just say that and be done with it. You don't have to crap on the positive future prospects for others who may be looking at this as a great new opportunity.

You offered no insight into what was being said inside the club. How the messaging or communication had been. About what other families thought of the idea. How they would hold tryouts or make selections. You can't change the past but you can give some constructive perspective on how two clubs are trying to make this new challenge happen in this crazy new future.

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Anonymous wrote:Celtic has strong girls 05 team and BU has strong 04 team. Outside of that, I really don’t know what they have to offer.

The same Celtic 05's that didn't have a shot on goal vs. Wold Class ECNL, or got smoked vs Philly SC in NL play? and BU's 04's that struggled against Pipelines 2nd team, and got shut out vs. Sunrise Primes 2nd team behind their ECNL squad and gave up like 50 goals vs Delaware FC? That strong BU 04 squad?

Yeah things just got interesting hahaha....

Wow. You the local Baltimore girls soccer archivist or just a rival parent with an axe to grind? Your intense disgust is clear.

Nope a parent that has a niece that plays on Celtic 05's and a neighbor that plays for BU's 04's. They are both average at best NL teams. we all know it. Just confirms that GA is nothing more than the National League at best. BU's 03's are at least competitive. Celtics 03's are possibly the worst team in the state. Maybe combined we can field some better teams.

If true from their later posts, this BU parent didn't bother to destroy their own daughter's 03 team, but gladly targeted the other BU club teams, and then conveniently left out their own family's connection to the club. Makes no sense that they would not be supportive of the club's effort to raise the level of play and college opportunities for both BU and Baltimore Celtics. They made no argument that they wanted anything more challenging for their DD or her teammates than they now have. They seemed angry with the news and content with the status quo, which is understandable especially for the final HS year age group.

Is it simply that you are upset that your DD's travel team and social network may get disrupted with this change? If so, just say that and be done with it. You don't have to crap on the positive future prospects for others who may be looking at this as a great new opportunity.

You offered no insight into what was being said inside the club. How the messaging or communication had been. About what other families thought of the idea. How they would hold tryouts or make selections. You can't change the past but you can give some constructive perspective on how two clubs are trying to make this new challenge happen in this crazy new future.

+1 to the last paragraph

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this is why Baltimore should have its own boards.

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Thread summary - informative headline and news followed by pages of crap. At least it had a positive start.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any stories of similar club agreements that parents have encountered, and how did those pan out? From the outside looking in, it seems like it will be pretty chaotic for the players/teams and parents during this transition. Does this happen a lot in youth sports?

Yes. Armour was a “partnership” between SAC and Pipeline. It was a disaster in terms of partnership. On the boys side practices were at Covenant, SAC’s complex, about an hour w/ traffic from Baltimore. Pipeline coaches told players not to go, that their training was as good as Armours and that they’d build a competitive schedule as good as DA. Few Pipeline boys left for Armour. On the girls side Pipeline dominated the coaching staff and Pipelines players would play Pipeline preacademy team and for the DA, created bad feelings for SAC parents as they felt their DD was being treated unfairly (sometimes true, sometimes not) and that Pipeline players were taking minutes but not paying academy fees.

The reality is that if this isn’t a merger, which both clubs have clarified it isn’t, don’t see how it’ll work.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any stories of similar club agreements that parents have encountered, and how did those pan out? From the outside looking in, it seems like it will be pretty chaotic for the players/teams and parents during this transition. Does this happen a lot in youth sports?

Yes. Armour was a “partnership” between SAC and Pipeline. It was a disaster in terms of partnership. On the boys side practices were at Covenant, SAC’s complex, about an hour w/ traffic from Baltimore. Pipeline coaches told players not to go, that their training was as good as Armours and that they’d build a competitive schedule as good as DA. Few Pipeline boys left for Armour. On the girls side Pipeline dominated the coaching staff and Pipelines players would play Pipeline preacademy team and for the DA, created bad feelings for SAC parents as they felt their DD was being treated unfairly (sometimes true, sometimes not) and that Pipeline players were taking minutes but not paying academy fees.

The reality is that if this isn’t a merger, which both clubs have clarified it isn’t, don’t see how it’ll work.

How does VDA make it work?

[Anonymous]

Celtic Union GA Coaching Staff looks impressive

I See current and former college coaches...also including more female staff than other clubs

Wish my daughters club had more female role models

Thoughts???????

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any stories of similar club agreements that parents have encountered, and how did those pan out? From the outside looking in, it seems like it will be pretty chaotic for the players/teams and parents during this transition. Does this happen a lot in youth sports?

Yes. Armour was a “partnership” between SAC and Pipeline. It was a disaster in terms of partnership. On the boys side practices were at Covenant, SAC’s complex, about an hour w/ traffic from Baltimore. Pipeline coaches told players not to go, that their training was as good as Armours and that they’d build a competitive schedule as good as DA. Few Pipeline boys left for Armour. On the girls side Pipeline dominated the coaching staff and Pipelines players would play Pipeline preacademy team and for the DA, created bad feelings for SAC parents as they felt their DD was being treated unfairly (sometimes true, sometimes not) and that Pipeline players were taking minutes but not paying academy fees.

The reality is that if this isn’t a merger, which both clubs have clarified it isn’t, don’t see how it’ll work.

Mentioned in another thread, but really curious about how this will work in terms of practices, as these teams do not practice in the same area of Baltimore and no matter how you slice it, some players are going to have to travel 45 to an hour to get to practice. This was a big issue for the BA team, I know parents of Pipeline boys who didn’t want to drive an hour to SAC fields due to beltway traffic 4x a week when the Pipeline field was five minutes away and they had other kids playing there. I’m sure that some of the SAC families felt the same once BA girls starting practicing and playing in Baltimore.

I just don’t see them being able to find fields that would keep all the players from both clubs on a top team, it’s going to be easier logistically for some of these kids to move to Pipeline, SAC/BA, or even Coppermine/Premier, which is particularly popular on the girl’s side.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any stories of similar club agreements that parents have encountered, and how did those pan out? From the outside looking in, it seems like it will be pretty chaotic for the players/teams and parents during this transition. Does this happen a lot in youth sports?

Yes. Armour was a “partnership” between SAC and Pipeline. It was a disaster in terms of partnership. On the boys side practices were at Covenant, SAC’s complex, about an hour w/ traffic from Baltimore. Pipeline coaches told players not to go, that their training was as good as Armours and that they’d build a competitive schedule as good as DA. Few Pipeline boys left for Armour. On the girls side Pipeline dominated the coaching staff and Pipelines players would play Pipeline preacademy team and for the DA, created bad feelings for SAC parents as they felt their DD was being treated unfairly (sometimes true, sometimes not) and that Pipeline players were taking minutes but not paying academy fees.

The reality is that if this isn’t a merger, which both clubs have clarified it isn’t, don’t see how it’ll work.

Mentioned in another thread, but really curious about how this will work in terms of practices, as these teams do not practice in the same area of Baltimore and no matter how you slice it, some players are going to have to travel 45 to an hour to get to practice. This was a big issue for the BA team, I know parents of Pipeline boys who didn’t want to drive an hour to SAC fields due to beltway traffic 4x a week when the Pipeline field was five minutes away and they had other kids playing there. I’m sure that some of the SAC families felt the same once BA girls starting practicing and playing in Baltimore.

I just don’t see them being able to find fields that would keep all the players from both clubs on a top team, it’s going to be easier logistically for some of these kids to move to Pipeline, SAC/BA, or even Coppermine/Premier, which is particularly popular on the girl’s side.

Unless there are some fields in the middle (a HS maybe), they could perhaps alternate practices at each others clubs. It's not ideal, but at least a bit more fair. I know at least one Armour boys coach would sometimes say that if they had more Pipeline players they would practice in Baltimore sometimes, but they never had enough Baltimore boys to actually do that - though that could be a bit of a chicken and egg thing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there any stories of similar club agreements that parents have encountered, and how did those pan out? From the outside looking in, it seems like it will be pretty chaotic for the players/teams and parents during this transition. Does this happen a lot in youth sports?

Yes. Armour was a “partnership” between SAC and Pipeline. It was a disaster in terms of partnership. On the boys side practices were at Covenant, SAC’s complex, about an hour w/ traffic from Baltimore. Pipeline coaches told players not to go, that their training was as good as Armours and that they’d build a competitive schedule as good as DA. Few Pipeline boys left for Armour. On the girls side Pipeline dominated the coaching staff and Pipelines players would play Pipeline preacademy team and for the DA, created bad feelings for SAC parents as they felt their DD was being treated unfairly (sometimes true, sometimes not) and that Pipeline players were taking minutes but not paying academy fees.

The reality is that if this isn’t a merger, which both clubs have clarified it isn’t, don’t see how it’ll work.

Mentioned in another thread, but really curious about how this will work in terms of practices, as these teams do not practice in the same area of Baltimore and no matter how you slice it, some players are going to have to travel 45 to an hour to get to practice. This was a big issue for the BA team, I know parents of Pipeline boys who didn’t want to drive an hour to SAC fields due to beltway traffic 4x a week when the Pipeline field was five minutes away and they had other kids playing there. I’m sure that some of the SAC families felt the same once BA girls starting practicing and playing in Baltimore.

I just don’t see them being able to find fields that would keep all the players from both clubs on a top team, it’s going to be easier logistically for some of these kids to move to Pipeline, SAC/BA, or even Coppermine/Premier, which is particularly popular on the girl’s side.

Unless there are some fields in the middle (a HS maybe), they could perhaps alternate practices at each others clubs. It's not ideal, but at least a bit more fair. I know at least one Armour boys coach would sometimes say that if they had more Pipeline players they would practice in Baltimore sometimes, but they never had enough Baltimore boys to actually do that - though that could be a bit of a chicken and egg thing.

Finding daily practice sites for a team that has players from two areas is a challenge. When Armour first started they held practice at least once a week at Poly for the Baltimore kids. The problem was that there were so little Baltimore area kids (probably had equal amount of Montgomery Co kids) on the team that it wasn't worth it and they stopped the following year. This year Armour girls practiced 1 day at Mercy. The teams were primarily HoCo players and the families in HoCo hated it. It becomes less of an issue when kids become old enough to drive, but if there isn't a place that is logistically feasible for the entire group from U12 (before USSF got rid of the age group) to U15/16 it's weekly travel (1+ hrs there and 1 back - maybe a little less b/c traffic may have abated) that ends up being greater than the weekly practice time itself (about 1.5 hrs per day).

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Anonymous wrote:Celtic Union GA Coaching Staff looks impressive

I See current and former college coaches...also including more female staff than other clubs

Wish my daughters club had more female role models

Thoughts???????

I don't see the current 05 girl's coach. She built a strong 05 team. Any one know what happened?