I feel like a chump
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Anonymous
I live in a leafy UMC manicured subdivision in Nova. Tons of people out yesterday. Tons. Lots of lawn chairs and fire pits, and kids biking together etc. |
Anonymous
No, two weeks. They will be sick two weeks from now. Everything is always always two weeks away. |
Anonymous
Your neighbors are fortunate. Let’s hope they stay that way. You and your neighbors are lucky that your family has not been hit by and that you don’t know anyone who has lost a family member or friend to this awful virus. It seems that people have on blinders until it affects them personally. Let’s hope you all are not affected. |
Anonymous
Perhaps. Or perhaps the sky is not falling after all. |
Anonymous
Gee, I thought my health insurance was expensive, but I guess I've got a bargain, because I know my premiums aren't enough to buy even one person's life, let alone an unknown number. What's the going rate for a life? |
Anonymous
Reading comprehension fail. I was simply saying I pay for my own healthcare and subsidize others, so I won’t hesitate to get care if I do need it. |
Anonymous
I do understand what you are saying. Just to clarify...asthmatics will most likely end up on a ventilator. According to the news reports, that is where it gets bad in terms of the survival rate. |
Anonymous
But presumably you were responding to my question which was addressed to those who needed health care because they felt that "living their life" (partying with friends, antiquing, etc.), was more important than the lives of everybody they came in contact with (including the health care personnel they might eventually ask to save their life). Do you feel that your insurance premiums justify you deliberately putting your convenience over somebody else's life? I hope that everybody who gets sick gets the best care possible and has a successful outcome. However, I would prefer that people stay healthy in the first place. I know that the more people who are sick, the more strain is put on the health care available, worsening probable outcomes. Moreover, I know that even under optimal health care, some people will die (and not just the sick and those with underlying conditions). Every contact you have with anybody else potentially puts you and them at risk. It also jeopardizes everybody you come into contact with and everybody they come into contact with. You cannot predict who will be affected. In any given interaction, you're right, the chances that either one of you is contagious is negligible and there probably won't be an adverse consequence. However, every single interaction you have, every single interaction they have (which you may have no way of knowing) increases the odds of contagion. Those who ignore guidelines are essentially playing Russian Roulette, but pointing the gun at everybody they interact with. Maybe you feel entitled to take that risk for yourself, but nothing entitles you to take it for others. |
Anonymous
Get over yourself. "We" aren't more important or special, or entitled to public space than than so-called "DINKS with dogs". (How interesting that you know all their marriage/parental/employment status.) |
Anonymous
Not this Pp, but I suspect they're less bothered by the possible DINK status of the dogwalkers than the fact that they don't wear masks and don't stay 6 ft. away. |
Anonymous
I think this may be a leafy suburb thing. Like PP I'm on the border of Clarendon and Va. Square and it is silent and has been for 6+ weeks now. When this all first started, I dreaded it because there is so much of a 22-35 year old crowd here who I figured would flaunt the rules because they are young/low risk and with grad school etc being online even if they couldn't go out, they'd just have friends over partying 24-7. It really isn't like that all. If they are out somewhere crowding the sidewalks with their dogs and getting in the faces of families out on walks, IDK where they are but they aren't here. Are they driving someplace to engage in this activity? Ultimately I think it helps that 1/3 to 1/2 of the population in these buildings at any time is grad students (and some corporate housing) anyway. A good % of those folks went home to mom and dad -- esp if buildings worked with them on canceling leases/rent concessions for next year etc. -- and with internships now being canceled/remote, I think the earliest they return is August and that's IF schools reopen in person. The ones who stayed simply don't have many friends to hang with. And the others in these buildings are usually 25-30 something SINKs/DINKs who seem like they are plenty comfortable working all day, watching Netflix/playing videogames, texting, drinking etc. They don't seem to have this need to be out. Every once in a while in my building you'll see someone stroll in coffee with hand and you'll wonder -- was that necessary to go out for coffee? And then you check your judgment as it's clear they made a grocery run with enough food for weeks and just stopped on the way home for coffee since they were out anyway. Yet my friends 2 miles over in the SFHs -- totally different stories. Mostly moms who are losing their $hit with their kids, so they've gotten progressively more lax. Oh -- it's fine for the kids to talk to each other from their own driveways (yep -- it is). Oh it's fine neighbor Susan and her kids don't go anywhere anyway, our kids can ride bikes as long as they don't go in the houses. And then a week later -- they've been riding bikes daily and are fine, basketball with one sweaty ball is NBD at least the kids will stop nagging me. And then if they're playing basketball, sure the adults can hang around a fire pit . . . . I also think there's some neighborhood peer pressure. If you are the type who goes to work and comes home and maybe waves to a neighbor from a distance, it's fine you can do what you want. But if you are the type who always has your kids playing with their kids and the adults drinking, now you don't want to look like a stick in the mud who won't participate and lose your "friends." I mean some of these people have gotten so lax and are so over their kids that they are hiring part time nannies to come in!? Lord knows what an internet stranger is doing in their off time -- maybe they are an instacart shopper who runs to 37 stores daily and shares housing with 8 other family members and only picked up this gig because they need more $. But the mamas are so over it that whatever. |
Anonymous
| ^ That's ridiculous re PT nannies off the internet?! Yeah obviously the person taking on that job is desperate for money so like they/someone else in their household is an instacart shopper/retail worker or something else with public contact . . . . |
Anonymous
You go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better. |
Anonymous
Nah. Its all the obese people. If you read the real reports from the ground, the people dying are morbidly obese and/or have several other comorbidities. Yes, I know you can name 5 high profile cases that didn't fit this description but by and large this is true. |
Anonymous
We don’t have any more right to it, but they use it constantly and don’t respect social distancing, effectively refusing to share it with others. I assume DINK status b/c they live in an expensive condo, are out walking together (so live together) and have no kids (and are young enough that if they did have kids, they would be leaving a preschooler home alone). Honestly I don’t care, it’s more the issue that they won’t give us freaking space or time to get out of their way. |