Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump calling for death for the whistleblower and anyone else who speaks out.

“I want to know who’s the person, who’s the person who gave the whistle-blower the information? Because that’s close to a spy,” he continued. “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-09-26/trump-at-private-breakfast-who-gave-the-whistle-blower-the-information-because-thats-almost-a-spy

Just like the mob. Let’s pray that the whistleblower doesn’t commit suicide jumping out the window of a tall building. I hope Trump remembers his own words when he’s impeached.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:How normal is it for transcripts or memos concerning phone calls between the President and foreign leaders to be moved to a special server that is normally only used for highly covert activities such as black ops?

I believe Maguire said that’s unprecedented.

So what are the implications?


Well it's not normal, but the whistleblower complaint says "this was 'not the first time' under this Administration that a Presidential transcript
was placed into this codeword-level system solely for the purpose of protecting politically sensitive-rather than national security sensitive-information."

The implication is that there are other calls hidden from the intelligence community because they would be damaging to Trump rather than because they contain sensitive information.


13:19 pp here. But in the other cases was this decided in advance or were they also situations expected to be routine calls?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump calling for death for the whistleblower and anyone else who speaks out.

“I want to know who’s the person, who’s the person who gave the whistle-blower the information? Because that’s close to a spy,” he continued. “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-09-26/trump-at-private-breakfast-who-gave-the-whistle-blower-the-information-because-thats-almost-a-spy


But AD Maguire feels no compunction to provide protective cover for the whistleblower he oversees in his agency. Such a profile in courage /s


Let's see, the call "was not restricted in advance because everybody expected it would be a 'routine' call". But after the call all records are moved to the separate electronic system for highly sensitive information.

"Lordy, I hope there are tapes!"
Because it's easy enough to verify that the records were removed from the normal storage even if the secret storage is kept secret. Smoking. Gun.

Wish I weren't at work. And I have no idea how to find c-span or anything else on the break room tv (I don't have cable and only watch about 2 broadcast network shows).


I dont have cable. I watch CNN on YouTube. It's live streaming Vina Erickson or something always has it live
Anonymous
"He's a very reasonable guy" sounds like what the Don says about the guy who'll get kneecapped if he doesn't play ball.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How normal is it for transcripts or memos concerning phone calls between the President and foreign leaders to be moved to a special server that is normally only used for highly covert activities such as black ops?

I believe Maguire said that’s unprecedented.

So what are the implications?


Well it's not normal, but the whistleblower complaint says "this was 'not the first time' under this Administration that a Presidential transcript
was placed into this codeword-level system solely for the purpose of protecting politically sensitive-rather than national security sensitive-information."

The implication is that there are other calls hidden from the intelligence community because they would be damaging to Trump rather than because they contain sensitive information.

Yeah, we’re going to have to see summaries of those calls, too.
Anonymous
NY Times: the whistleblower is a CIA analyst who was detailed to the White House https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How normal is it for transcripts or memos concerning phone calls between the President and foreign leaders to be moved to a special server that is normally only used for highly covert activities such as black ops?

I believe Maguire said that’s unprecedented.

So what are the implications?


Well it's not normal, but the whistleblower complaint says "this was 'not the first time' under this Administration that a Presidential transcript
was placed into this codeword-level system solely for the purpose of protecting politically sensitive-rather than national security sensitive-information."

The implication is that there are other calls hidden from the intelligence community because they would be damaging to Trump rather than because they contain sensitive information.

Yeah, we’re going to have to see summaries of those calls, too.


It'll never happen.
And, it shouldn't.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NY Times: the whistleblower is a CIA analyst who was detailed to the White House https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html


Commence the 'deep state' conspiracies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NY Times: the whistleblower is a CIA analyst who was detailed to the White House https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html


On the one hand this information confirms to a larger audience the whistleblower's expertise in Ukrainian matters and politics; on the other this means people in the WH now know who he is based on that information. Given Trump's threatening language today about dealing with him and his sources, maybe he should go into the witness protection program until there's a new administration...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NY Times: the whistleblower is a CIA analyst who was detailed to the White House https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html


The link is firewall protected. Post some excerpts?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NY Times: the whistleblower is a CIA analyst who was detailed to the White House https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html


On the one hand this information confirms to a larger audience the whistleblower's expertise in Ukrainian matters and politics; on the other this means people in the WH now know who he is based on that information. Given Trump's threatening language today about dealing with him and his sources, maybe he should go into the witness protection program until there's a new administration...


Or, this could be like the WaPo report yesterday that ADNI Maguire was planning to resign........
Sorry, not putting a lot of credibility on anything coming out in the media.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NY Times: the whistleblower is a CIA analyst who was detailed to the White House https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html


The link is firewall protected. Post some excerpts?

Maybe someone else will but I won’t. I’m appalled that the Times made this decision in the face of death threats by the President.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NY Times: the whistleblower is a CIA analyst who was detailed to the White House https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html


The link is firewall protected. Post some excerpts?

Maybe someone else will but I won’t. I’m appalled that the Times made this decision in the face of death threats by the President.


You have got to be kidding. Death threats? My God you people really do know how to be hyperbolic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NY Times: the whistleblower is a CIA analyst who was detailed to the White House https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html


On the one hand this information confirms to a larger audience the whistleblower's expertise in Ukrainian matters and politics; on the other this means people in the WH now know who he is based on that information. Given Trump's threatening language today about dealing with him and his sources, maybe he should go into the witness protection program until there's a new administration...


Or, this could be like the WaPo report yesterday that ADNI Maguire was planning to resign........
Sorry, not putting a lot of credibility on anything coming out in the media.


That's because you yourself aren't credible when you twist the WaPo report. It wasn't that he was "planning to resign," it was that he said he would resign if he didn't get to testify. How do you know that's wrong? I personally don't believe him when he says he didn't put it that way. Because no official in this administration is credible.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NY Times: the whistleblower is a CIA analyst who was detailed to the White House https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html


On the one hand this information confirms to a larger audience the whistleblower's expertise in Ukrainian matters and politics; on the other this means people in the WH now know who he is based on that information. Given Trump's threatening language today about dealing with him and his sources, maybe he should go into the witness protection program until there's a new administration...


Or, this could be like the WaPo report yesterday that ADNI Maguire was planning to resign........
Sorry, not putting a lot of credibility on anything coming out in the media.


That's because you yourself aren't credible when you twist the WaPo report. It wasn't that he was "planning to resign," it was that he said he would resign if he didn't get to testify. How do you know that's wrong? I personally don't believe him when he says he didn't put it that way. Because no official in this administration is credible.


+1

Maguire's #1 concern is clearly CYA.
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