Georgetown Prep.

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Anonymous wrote:Stick to WCAC

...if you think you're good enough to play football or basketball at the next level. Or you can't afford the cost of an IAC education, which, let's face it, is what those schools are there for. Nobody that has the option picks St. John's, GC or DM over Prep unless you're an elite athlete. GZ is a different story and actually has an identity of it's own.

Nobody, huh. And I guess you know everybody.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stick to WCAC

...if you think you're good enough to play football or basketball at the next level. Or you can't afford the cost of an IAC education, which, let's face it, is what those schools are there for. Nobody that has the option picks St. John's, GC or DM over Prep unless you're an elite athlete. GZ is a different story and actually has an identity of it's own.

Prep is not trying to be like the WCAC schools athletically. Prep is a strong academic school in a good athletic conference - the IAC - with other strong academic schools (i.e. STA, Landon).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stick to WCAC

...if you think you're good enough to play football or basketball at the next level. Or you can't afford the cost of an IAC education, which, let's face it, is what those schools are there for. Nobody that has the option picks St. John's, GC or DM over Prep unless you're an elite athlete. GZ is a different story and actually has an identity of it's own.

Prep is not trying to be like the WCAC schools athletically. Prep is a strong academic school in a good athletic conference - the IAC - with other strong academic schools (i.e. STA, Landon).

The pp was responding to another poster’s comments that Prep athletics are equivalent to WCAC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So it has been mentioned that if your son is an athlete they have a better chance of getting in. Gprep isnt part of the WCAC so i dont know how competitive they are sports wise.

Is your application flagged as athlete by the coaches or just in general. I am trying to figure out how do they know who is a novice versus someone who truly has athletic talent.

Usually the very best athletes in the DMV find their way to the WCAC. Although lots also stay in the public school in PG and in NoVa.

But IAC teams are not that far below the WCAC. If the WCAC is the major leagues, the IAC is Triple A. And in some sports, the IAC is better. (Not football or basketball)

Bullis, Prep, Landon take sports very seriously. It’s a priority for them.

What are the sports that Prep tend to do the heavy recruitment for? How do kids even make the team if heavy recruitment takes place ?

First would be football.

Lacrosse and basketball probably follow in that order.

But, football and lacrosse have large rosters. And there aren’t that many kids that are admitted with special “help” from The coaching staffs in the Admissions process. The majority of theses teams are made up of boys, who go through the regular process.

But lots of these regular boys select Prep because they are interested in sports and want to play at the level of the top teams in the IAC.

In recent years Prep has dominated the IAC Founders Cup race which is awarded to the school with the overall, across all sports, performance.

Thought Georgetown Prep was a lacrosse school?

Lacrosse is still important. But it isn't what it was just a few years ago.

Thoughout its history, Prep has been a football school. It has been expelled from the IAC twice for dominating the conference.

For a while Lacrosse was the dominant sport. Prep was nationally-ranked, a local powerhouse and it was drawing a large number of full-day applicants to the school. Crowds at games, especially vs. Landon, eclipsed even big football game crowds. This was in the realm of the controversial coach, Kevin Giblin, who built the program pretty much from scratch.

Things have changed. Giblin is gone. The Lacrosse program doesn't have the sway it once had in Admissions. The IAC is no longer dominated by Landon and Prep. Games between the two bitter rivals that once drew huge crowds no longer do. Other IAC schools have caught up to the two powers. Gonzaga has greatly improved it's program to parity with Prep and Landon. Even St Johns has improved it's program.

Football has regained it's former importance, in part due to the fact that the AD is also the football coach and that there are so many alums who played football and not Lacrosse. Things were fine when the Lacrosse players also played football. But when significant numbers decided to play Lacrosse only, that wasn't going to fly.

Sorry, but your post is factually incorrect. Prep's Director of Admissions is not the football coach. Also, plenty of lacrosse players also play football. The freshman class (2023) has 45 boys playing freshman football and expects 40 about boys to play freshman lacrosse. This is out of 125 in the class. In regards to dominating the IAC, Prep has won the IAC Founders Cup (presented to the school with overall athletic excellence) 14 of the last 16 years. Prep dominates the IAC in multiple sports - they may not win every championship in every sport, but they win a lot more overall than any of the other IAC schools. Last year, for example, Prep won the IAC Championship in football, hockey, swim and dive, golf, baseball, and won the regular season (but not the tournament championship) in both lax and soccer.

And more importantly, on top of being an athletic powerhouse Prep is also an academic powerhouse. The naysayers will roll their eyes, but Prep is academically very strong. Students have to work hard and graduates attend excellent colleges.

AD = Athletic Director who is the varsity football coach

[Anonymous]

So a previous poster stated the AD provides a “wishlist” of prospects. If he/she is a football coach how can they go to bat (pundt intended) for baseball, basketball, and soccer? How well will the interest of those be represented?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So a previous poster stated the AD provides a “wishlist” of prospects. If he/she is a football coach how can they go to bat (pundt intended) for baseball, basketball, and soccer? How well will the interest of those be represented?

The coaches for those sports do that. This is true at most schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So a previous poster stated the AD provides a “wishlist” of prospects. If he/she is a football coach how can they go to bat (pundt intended) for baseball, basketball, and soccer? How well will the interest of those be represented?

The coaches for those sports do that. This is true at most schools.

Sorry, I have to disagree.

Prep participate s in 14 sorts. The coaches for each of these do not independently speak to the Admissions Office or committee.

The Athletic Director speaks for all sports. In doing so, he has to pay attention to the needs of all the teams he is responufor and keep the individual coaches mollified if not completely happy.

But when the Athletic Director is also the head football coach it doesn't, it's pretty easy to guess where the thumb is going to be placed on the scales.
But given Preps near finance of the Founder up lately, the school seems to be addressing the needs of most of the coaches or teams

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So a previous poster stated the AD provides a “wishlist” of prospects. If he/she is a football coach how can they go to bat (pundt intended) for baseball, basketball, and soccer? How well will the interest of those be represented?

The coaches for those sports do that. This is true at most schools.

Sorry, I have to disagree.

Prep participate s in 14 sorts. The coaches for each of these do not independently speak to the Admissions Office or committee.

The Athletic Director speaks for all sports. In doing so, he has to pay attention to the needs of all the teams he is responufor and keep the individual coaches mollified if not completely happy.

But when the Athletic Director is also the head football coach it doesn't, it's pretty easy to guess where the thumb is going to be placed on the scales.
But given Preps near finance of the Founder up lately, the school seems to be addressing the needs of most of the coaches or teams

I meant to type "given Prep's near dominance of the Founder's cup ..."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stick to WCAC

...if you think you're good enough to play football or basketball at the next level. Or you can't afford the cost of an IAC education, which, let's face it, is what those schools are there for. Nobody that has the option picks St. John's, GC or DM over Prep unless you're an elite athlete. GZ is a different story and actually has an identity of it's own.

Prep is not trying to be like the WCAC schools athletically. Prep is a strong academic school in a good athletic conference - the IAC - with other strong academic schools (i.e. STA, Landon).

The pp was responding to another poster’s comments that Prep athletics are equivalent to WCAC.

The only reason the WCAC came up was the mention of elite sports at Prep, which someone said was not the level of Gonzaga. In actuality the PP mentioned elite sports at Prep in regards to another posters comment that Prep can't compete with Sidwell. Prep is definitely elite level in comparison to Sidwell. And to the Gonzaga comments, not many Prep families or students are worried about Gonzaga's level of sports compared to Prep's. If a talented athlete goes to Prep he will have just as many opportunities to be recruited for good colleges as a Gonzaga athlete and the academics at Prep definitely put him a step above Gonzaga scholar athletes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stick to WCAC

...if you think you're good enough to play football or basketball at the next level. Or you can't afford the cost of an IAC education, which, let's face it, is what those schools are there for. Nobody that has the option picks St. John's, GC or DM over Prep unless you're an elite athlete. GZ is a different story and actually has an identity of it's own.

Prep is not trying to be like the WCAC schools athletically. Prep is a strong academic school in a good athletic conference - the IAC - with other strong academic schools (i.e. STA, Landon).

The pp was responding to another poster’s comments that Prep athletics are equivalent to WCAC.

The only reason the WCAC came up was the mention of elite sports at Prep, which someone said was not the level of Gonzaga. In actuality the PP mentioned elite sports at Prep in regards to another posters comment that Prep can't compete with Sidwell. Prep is definitely elite level in comparison to Sidwell. And to the Gonzaga comments, not many Prep families or students are worried about Gonzaga's level of sports compared to Prep's. If a talented athlete goes to Prep he will have just as many opportunities to be recruited for good colleges as a Gonzaga athlete and the academics at Prep definitely put him a step above Gonzaga scholar athletes.

Could you say the same if it were SJC or DeMatha you were comparing the athletics too? Just curious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So a previous poster stated the AD provides a “wishlist” of prospects. If he/she is a football coach how can they go to bat (pundt intended) for baseball, basketball, and soccer? How well will the interest of those be represented?

The coaches for those sports do that. This is true at most schools.

Sorry, I have to disagree.

Prep participate s in 14 sorts. The coaches for each of these do not independently speak to the Admissions Office or committee.

The Athletic Director speaks for all sports. In doing so, he has to pay attention to the needs of all the teams he is responufor and keep the individual coaches mollified if not completely happy.

But when the Athletic Director is also the head football coach it doesn't, it's pretty easy to guess where the thumb is going to be placed on the scales.
But given Preps near finance of the Founder up lately, the school seems to be addressing the needs of most of the coaches or teams

I meant to type "given Prep's near dominance of the Founder's cup ..."

Founders cup is for what sport?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So a previous poster stated the AD provides a “wishlist” of prospects. If he/she is a football coach how can they go to bat (pundt intended) for baseball, basketball, and soccer? How well will the interest of those be represented?

The coaches for those sports do that. This is true at most schools.

Sorry, I have to disagree.

Prep participate s in 14 sorts. The coaches for each of these do not independently speak to the Admissions Office or committee.

The Athletic Director speaks for all sports. In doing so, he has to pay attention to the needs of all the teams he is responufor and keep the individual coaches mollified if not completely happy.

But when the Athletic Director is also the head football coach it doesn't, it's pretty easy to guess where the thumb is going to be placed on the scales.
But given Preps near finance of the Founder up lately, the school seems to be addressing the needs of most of the coaches or teams

I meant to type "given Prep's near dominance of the Founder's cup ..."

Founders cup is for what sport?

The IAC Founders Cup is awarded at the end of the school year and considers all sports. So it is and indicator of overall sports excellence.

[Anonymous]

The Founders Cup is based on the aggregate performance in all sports. Schools are awarded points for regular season finish and tournament performance in each sport and the school with the most total points wins the Founders Cup.

Georgetown Prep has won the Founders Cup 16 of the last 18 years.

In the 1980's and 1990's, St Albans was a frequent winner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Founders Cup is based on the aggregate performance in all sports. Schools are awarded points for regular season finish and tournament performance in each sport and the school with the most total points wins the Founders Cup.

Georgetown Prep has won the Founders Cup 16 of the last 18 years.

In the 1980's and 1990's, St Albans was a frequent winner.

Now that’s impressive. If they have won it that many times it maybe time to move on to another conference with stronger competition.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Founders Cup is based on the aggregate performance in all sports. Schools are awarded points for regular season finish and tournament performance in each sport and the school with the most total points wins the Founders Cup.

Georgetown Prep has won the Founders Cup 16 of the last 18 years.

In the 1980's and 1990's, St Albans was a frequent winner.

Now that’s impressive. If they have won it that many times it maybe time to move on to another conference with stronger competition.

Don't get too ahead of yourself.