Georgetown Prep.

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Anonymous wrote:Prep has many more reclassed kids than any other IAC school. Combined with the "win at all costs" mentality of the parents, it's no wonder Prep cares more about athletics than anything else.

Lies, lies lies. Why all the hate? Prep neither has more reclassed kids than any other IAC school, nor do they have the mentality of win at all costs. This is completely ludicrous and invented by haters who are mad Prep is a good school with a strong athletic program. And let's not forget that reclassing students for athletic prowess really only benefits middle schoolers and maybe freshman, but by the time kids are playing Varsity sports they are fully grown and developed so it doesn't really make a difference. Sure some kids repeated a grade in elementary because they needed to (just like any other school) and Mater Dei is known to encourage kids to repeat if needed, but this does not mean all kids from MD repeat nor does it mean kids repeat for sports. Not to mention the freshman class, just like every other class at Prep, is made up of boys from about 70 different middle schools. Boys come from Catholic schools, Independents, and publics in DC, Maryland, Virginia, and multiple other states and, of course, international schools around the world.

Glad you believe that

You should too. No difference when a junior plays a senior in high school. Growth has taken place and muscle memory and other factors have taken place thru puberty. When you get to college there will be no differentiating.

This is not true. I continued growing freshman year of college. I didn't "fill out" until senior year.

Peak athletic performance varies by sport. For things like gymnastics, it is as young as 16-17. But most sports it is mid-twenties. Things have not "evened out" by junior year. (See, e.g., Michael Jordan).

You are also forgetting all the playing time the redshirted kids get from middle school onwards. Studies of canadian hockey players show a very disproportionate percentage of them were born in the month before the age cutoffs for youth hockey. They were frequently the oldest / biggest kid on the youth hockey team and so got the lion's share of the touches and coaching time.

Just admit that you want to advantage your kids and correspondingly disadvantage all the other kids. Don't pretend that you just randomly did something that has no purpose.

Yeah I'm not sure where that poster is getting his/her basis of knowledge. Maybe golf.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure that's true on a per capita basis since Landon invented reclassing in the IAC and Bullis and Episcopal allow upper school athlete transfers to reclass. Some of the resident students from China at Prep have skipped a grade.

Pretty sure none of the exchange students are picking up a long stick or protecting the quarterback's blind side.

This is such a stupid counter argument. Let's say there are 100 boarding students at Prep and none of them play sports (which is untrue). So 25 kids per grade who aren't contributing to athletics at Prep.

At every IAC school, there are similarly at least 25 boys in every HS grade who aren't contributing meaningfully to a Varsity sport.

Nice try.

It's not a stupid argument. About 115 (according to their own site) of the students are boarders. Prep (again, according to their own site) has 496 students. Most of the boarders come from east Asian countries or Latin America. Those kids are playing lax, basketball or football. Some contribute in other sports such as soccer, tennis, wrestling or baseball. The argument that Prep has 500 Mater Dei kids who are all sports fanatics enrolled there is just flat out false and ignores the reality that about 23% of their student body has absolutely not intention of ever playing the big 3 sports.

And yes, there are also day students from parochial schools that have no interest in sports just like any other IAC school.

No question that athletics are big at Prep. There is equally no question that a sizable portion of the student body will never contribute in the sports that receive the most attention.

https://www.gprep.org/about/fast-facts
https://www.gprep.org/boarding

I have no problem with prep as a school. It seems like a very nice school but you have to admit that if they have 125 kids in a grade and competing against schools like Landon and STA which only have 80 or 85 then yes that is an advantage for Prep especially on a football team. Prep’s football team is very large and the potential to add 40 additional kids to a team certainly makes a difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure that's true on a per capita basis since Landon invented reclassing in the IAC and Bullis and Episcopal allow upper school athlete transfers to reclass. Some of the resident students from China at Prep have skipped a grade.

Pretty sure none of the exchange students are picking up a long stick or protecting the quarterback's blind side.

This is such a stupid counter argument. Let's say there are 100 boarding students at Prep and none of them play sports (which is untrue). So 25 kids per grade who aren't contributing to athletics at Prep.

At every IAC school, there are similarly at least 25 boys in every HS grade who aren't contributing meaningfully to a Varsity sport.

Nice try.

It's not a stupid argument. About 115 (according to their own site) of the students are boarders. Prep (again, according to their own site) has 496 students. Most of the boarders come from east Asian countries or Latin America. Those kids are playing lax, basketball or football. Some contribute in other sports such as soccer, tennis, wrestling or baseball. The argument that Prep has 500 Mater Dei kids who are all sports fanatics enrolled there is just flat out false and ignores the reality that about 23% of their student body has absolutely not intention of ever playing the big 3 sports.

And yes, there are also day students from parochial schools that have no interest in sports just like any other IAC school.

No question that athletics are big at Prep. There is equally no question that a sizable portion of the student body will never contribute in the sports that receive the most attention.

https://www.gprep.org/about/fast-facts
https://www.gprep.org/boarding

I have no problem with prep as a school. It seems like a very nice school but you have to admit that if they have 125 kids in a grade and competing against schools like Landon and STA which only have 80 or 85 then yes that is an advantage for Prep especially on a football team. Prep’s football team is very large and the potential to add 40 additional kids to a team certainly makes a difference.

Especially if it is just 40 extra kids per grade. So Prep actually has 160 more students to choose from when creating football teams. That’s is a huge advantage.

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From NWDC Prep is 20 minutes. STA/Sidwell/Maret/NCS are all about 15 minutes. Landon and Holton are also about 15-20 minutes depending on how backed up River Rd is. Not really that much difference and the commute to DC schools can really be dependent on how bad the city traffic is.

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In every town I know of of significant size in the east and Midwest, Catholic high schools are generally at the top in Athletics.

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Anonymous wrote:The perceived negative publicity actually helped Prep immensely. Many of the articles about Kavanaugh often mentioned Gorsuch, Jerome Powell and other illustrious alumni and made reference to its average SAT score of 1386. The reality is that most families who considered Prep tended to support Kavanaugh, and many families concluded that, notwithstanding any of the bad publicity, the school must be doing something right to have produced two sitting SCOTUS Justices and the Federal Reserve Chair. Having a long history, great facilities and excellent athletics certainly does not hurt either. Interestingly, Prep is one of the only schools which publishes a matriculation list that details where each graduate will attend college.

Lots of other area schools publish this.

You are in la la land if you think that the Kavanaugh circus was "perceived" negative publicity and that more amazingly, it helped Prep "immensely". That publicity was ALL negative, real and not perceived. It made Prep look like a bastion of arrogance filled with undisciplined students and faculty. Granted it was from the 80s, but I went to a school that looked similar to Prep in the 80s, and we had none of that going on. The yearbook alone was a total disgrace, and that is on the Administration. Set aside the culture issues that pervaded the school on campus and off campus. It was a black eye, pure and simple. That type of laundry is best not hung on the line for all to see ...

[Anonymous]

Go to a CYO basketball game, go to a Bethesda Lacrosse game, or go to a Prep game.

Same kind of parents. All nightmares.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From NWDC Prep is 20 minutes. STA/Sidwell/Maret/NCS are all about 15 minutes. Landon and Holton are also about 15-20 minutes depending on how backed up River Rd is. Not really that much difference and the commute to DC schools can really be dependent on how bad the city traffic is.

STA/Sidwell/Maret/NCS are 0 minutes away from NWDC because they are in NWDC. Which is a lot of territory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure that's true on a per capita basis since Landon invented reclassing in the IAC and Bullis and Episcopal allow upper school athlete transfers to reclass. Some of the resident students from China at Prep have skipped a grade.

Pretty sure none of the exchange students are picking up a long stick or protecting the quarterback's blind side.

This is such a stupid counter argument. Let's say there are 100 boarding students at Prep and none of them play sports (which is untrue). So 25 kids per grade who aren't contributing to athletics at Prep.

At every IAC school, there are similarly at least 25 boys in every HS grade who aren't contributing meaningfully to a Varsity sport.

Nice try.

It's not a stupid argument. About 115 (according to their own site) of the students are boarders. Prep (again, according to their own site) has 496 students. Most of the boarders come from east Asian countries or Latin America. Those kids are playing lax, basketball or football. Some contribute in other sports such as soccer, tennis, wrestling or baseball. The argument that Prep has 500 Mater Dei kids who are all sports fanatics enrolled there is just flat out false and ignores the reality that about 23% of their student body has absolutely not intention of ever playing the big 3 sports.

And yes, there are also day students from parochial schools that have no interest in sports just like any other IAC school.

No question that athletics are big at Prep. There is equally no question that a sizable portion of the student body will never contribute in the sports that receive the most attention.

https://www.gprep.org/about/fast-facts
https://www.gprep.org/boarding

I have no problem with prep as a school. It seems like a very nice school but you have to admit that if they have 125 kids in a grade and competing against schools like Landon and STA which only have 80 or 85 then yes that is an advantage for Prep especially on a football team. Prep’s football team is very large and the potential to add 40 additional kids to a team certainly makes a difference.

You're naming the other all boy schools in the IAC. The remainder of the conference is coed schools - SSSA, Bullis, Episcopal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The perceived negative publicity actually helped Prep immensely. Many of the articles about Kavanaugh often mentioned Gorsuch, Jerome Powell and other illustrious alumni and made reference to its average SAT score of 1386. The reality is that most families who considered Prep tended to support Kavanaugh, and many families concluded that, notwithstanding any of the bad publicity, the school must be doing something right to have produced two sitting SCOTUS Justices and the Federal Reserve Chair. Having a long history, great facilities and excellent athletics certainly does not hurt either. Interestingly, Prep is one of the only schools which publishes a matriculation list that details where each graduate will attend college.

Lots of other area schools publish this.

You are in la la land if you think that the Kavanaugh circus was "perceived" negative publicity and that more amazingly, it helped Prep "immensely". That publicity was ALL negative, real and not perceived. It made Prep look like a bastion of arrogance filled with undisciplined students and faculty. Granted it was from the 80s, but I went to a school that looked similar to Prep in the 80s, and we had none of that going on. The yearbook alone was a total disgrace, and that is on the Administration. Set aside the culture issues that pervaded the school on campus and off campus. It was a black eye, pure and simple. That type of laundry is best not hung on the line for all to see ...

If you are so horrified by the Prep yearbook from the 1980s, how do you feel about the incredible offensive STA yearbook that was published in 2015? Yes, not 35 years ago, 4 years ago! Why does everyone love to bash Prep for something that happened 35 years ago, but never STA for something worse (sexist, racist, and anti-semitic) that happened just 4 years ago?

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Prep's obsession with athletic infrastructure has bankrupted the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure that's true on a per capita basis since Landon invented reclassing in the IAC and Bullis and Episcopal allow upper school athlete transfers to reclass. Some of the resident students from China at Prep have skipped a grade.

Pretty sure none of the exchange students are picking up a long stick or protecting the quarterback's blind side.

This is such a stupid counter argument. Let's say there are 100 boarding students at Prep and none of them play sports (which is untrue). So 25 kids per grade who aren't contributing to athletics at Prep.

At every IAC school, there are similarly at least 25 boys in every HS grade who aren't contributing meaningfully to a Varsity sport.

Nice try.

I believe the point was to highlight the speciousness PP's countering the reclass for sport with grade skipping exchange students.

Also, if we are going to talk about Prep, let’s not forget this little bit of zen: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1991/01/15/dismissal-upheld-in-prep-school-hazing-incident/524fa325-7171-41b4-8edc-1d5fa8706d9f/

Men for Others indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The perceived negative publicity actually helped Prep immensely. Many of the articles about Kavanaugh often mentioned Gorsuch, Jerome Powell and other illustrious alumni and made reference to its average SAT score of 1386. The reality is that most families who considered Prep tended to support Kavanaugh, and many families concluded that, notwithstanding any of the bad publicity, the school must be doing something right to have produced two sitting SCOTUS Justices and the Federal Reserve Chair. Having a long history, great facilities and excellent athletics certainly does not hurt either. Interestingly, Prep is one of the only schools which publishes a matriculation list that details where each graduate will attend college.

Lots of other area schools publish this.

You are in la la land if you think that the Kavanaugh circus was "perceived" negative publicity and that more amazingly, it helped Prep "immensely". That publicity was ALL negative, real and not perceived. It made Prep look like a bastion of arrogance filled with undisciplined students and faculty. Granted it was from the 80s, but I went to a school that looked similar to Prep in the 80s, and we had none of that going on. The yearbook alone was a total disgrace, and that is on the Administration. Set aside the culture issues that pervaded the school on campus and off campus. It was a black eye, pure and simple. That type of laundry is best not hung on the line for all to see ...

I grew up here and graduated from a peer school in the early 90s. Can confirm that Prep was, without a doubt, a bastion of arrogance filled with undisciplined students and faculty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The perceived negative publicity actually helped Prep immensely. Many of the articles about Kavanaugh often mentioned Gorsuch, Jerome Powell and other illustrious alumni and made reference to its average SAT score of 1386. The reality is that most families who considered Prep tended to support Kavanaugh, and many families concluded that, notwithstanding any of the bad publicity, the school must be doing something right to have produced two sitting SCOTUS Justices and the Federal Reserve Chair. Having a long history, great facilities and excellent athletics certainly does not hurt either. Interestingly, Prep is one of the only schools which publishes a matriculation list that details where each graduate will attend college.

Lots of other area schools publish this.

You are in la la land if you think that the Kavanaugh circus was "perceived" negative publicity and that more amazingly, it helped Prep "immensely". That publicity was ALL negative, real and not perceived. It made Prep look like a bastion of arrogance filled with undisciplined students and faculty. Granted it was from the 80s, but I went to a school that looked similar to Prep in the 80s, and we had none of that going on. The yearbook alone was a total disgrace, and that is on the Administration. Set aside the culture issues that pervaded the school on campus and off campus. It was a black eye, pure and simple. That type of laundry is best not hung on the line for all to see ...

If you are so horrified by the Prep yearbook from the 1980s, how do you feel about the incredible offensive STA yearbook that was published in 2015? Yes, not 35 years ago, 4 years ago! Why does everyone love to bash Prep for something that happened 35 years ago, but never STA for something worse (sexist, racist, and anti-semitic) that happened just 4 years ago?

STA sucks too. Happy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The perceived negative publicity actually helped Prep immensely. Many of the articles about Kavanaugh often mentioned Gorsuch, Jerome Powell and other illustrious alumni and made reference to its average SAT score of 1386. The reality is that most families who considered Prep tended to support Kavanaugh, and many families concluded that, notwithstanding any of the bad publicity, the school must be doing something right to have produced two sitting SCOTUS Justices and the Federal Reserve Chair. Having a long history, great facilities and excellent athletics certainly does not hurt either. Interestingly, Prep is one of the only schools which publishes a matriculation list that details where each graduate will attend college.

Lots of other area schools publish this.

You are in la la land if you think that the Kavanaugh circus was "perceived" negative publicity and that more amazingly, it helped Prep "immensely". That publicity was ALL negative, real and not perceived. It made Prep look like a bastion of arrogance filled with undisciplined students and faculty. Granted it was from the 80s, but I went to a school that looked similar to Prep in the 80s, and we had none of that going on. The yearbook alone was a total disgrace, and that is on the Administration. Set aside the culture issues that pervaded the school on campus and off campus. It was a black eye, pure and simple. That type of laundry is best not hung on the line for all to see ...

If you are so horrified by the Prep yearbook from the 1980s, how do you feel about the incredible offensive STA yearbook that was published in 2015? Yes, not 35 years ago, 4 years ago! Why does everyone love to bash Prep for something that happened 35 years ago, but never STA for something worse (sexist, racist, and anti-semitic) that happened just 4 years ago?

How about being horrified that Prep actively covered up a sex abuse case 15 years ago. Teachers convinced students to start rumors about the student that reported the abuse. The student made sworn testimony that was false about the accuser, making it impossible for the state to prosecute. All of this illegal activity was orchestrated by the staff at Prep and executed by students. WTF! Seriously, those teacher are still teaching at the school.