Harvard Rescinds Admission for Parkland Student Over ‘Offensive’ Comments

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all better be damn sure this "Anonymous" posting stuff is truly private lest your stupidity is discovered. Clearly any college that admitted your kids if discovering the identity of the authors of these posts would have to rescind admission merely on the notion that imbecility is likely hereditary.

^ this really is the attitude, right? it is in line with the assumption that your kid probably did racist horrible stuff too and you'd better just hope that no one finds out about it. it was like during the kavanaugh hearings and all these people who seemed completely sure that their kids had sexually assaulted girls too and hopefully their lives of privilege would never be disturbed by having done it.

but by all means must be tough on crime for others.

It was a private post. Perhaps one should just hand over all private papers when applying to college.
His defense was that he and his friends were trying to out-offend each other. Do I know whether that he meant it? Do you? Does Harvard? The answer to all three is no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all better be damn sure this "Anonymous" posting stuff is truly private lest your stupidity is discovered. Clearly any college that admitted your kids if discovering the identity of the authors of these posts would have to rescind admission merely on the notion that imbecility is likely hereditary.

^ this really is the attitude, right? it is in line with the assumption that your kid probably did racist horrible stuff too and you'd better just hope that no one finds out about it. it was like during the kavanaugh hearings and all these people who seemed completely sure that their kids had sexually assaulted girls too and hopefully their lives of privilege would never be disturbed by having done it.

but by all means must be tough on crime for others.

It was a private post. Perhaps one should just hand over all private papers when applying to college.
His defense was that he and his friends were trying to out-offend each other. Do I know whether that he meant it? Do you? Does Harvard? The answer to all three is no.

Piss poor defense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thoughts and prayers, Mr. Kashuv. Thoughts and prayers.

x100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all better be damn sure this "Anonymous" posting stuff is truly private lest your stupidity is discovered. Clearly any college that admitted your kids if discovering the identity of the authors of these posts would have to rescind admission merely on the notion that imbecility is likely hereditary.

^ this really is the attitude, right? it is in line with the assumption that your kid probably did racist horrible stuff too and you'd better just hope that no one finds out about it. it was like during the kavanaugh hearings and all these people who seemed completely sure that their kids had sexually assaulted girls too and hopefully their lives of privilege would never be disturbed by having done it.

but by all means must be tough on crime for others.

It was a private post. Perhaps one should just hand over all private papers when applying to college.
His defense was that he and his friends were trying to out-offend each other. Do I know whether that he meant it? Do you? Does Harvard? The answer to all three is no.

Piss poor defense.

+1 And 99.9% of kids don't make racist, violent remarks the way that kid did. But 99.9% of kids don't go to Harvard. No one is saying that he's not young, and that he has the chance to redeem himself. But Harvard isn't obliged to help him redeem himself on the off chance he grows into a more caring human.

[Anonymous]

Truth from the NY Times comments section.

In Florida a 14 year old can be tried and sentenced as an adult for many felonies, and a 16 year old in Florida is considered an adult for all felonies. So a 14 year old who commits murder can be tried and sentenced to life in prison without parole in Florida. Yet, somehow we should be concerned that Harvard revoked an admission based on a 16 year old expressing racist and hateful views, and conservatives who broadly support putting a 14 year old in prison for life are upset that there is no forgiveness for a racist, hateful 16 year old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Truth from the NY Times comments section.

In Florida a 14 year old can be tried and sentenced as an adult for many felonies, and a 16 year old in Florida is considered an adult for all felonies. So a 14 year old who commits murder can be tried and sentenced to life in prison without parole in Florida. Yet, somehow we should be concerned that Harvard revoked an admission based on a 16 year old expressing racist and hateful views, and conservatives who broadly support putting a 14 year old in prison for life are upset that there is no forgiveness for a racist, hateful 16 year old.

A thousand times yes. This is what we mean by privilege and entitlement: why should my horrible actions ruin my chances at an easy life?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Truth from the NY Times comments section.

In Florida a 14 year old can be tried and sentenced as an adult for many felonies, and a 16 year old in Florida is considered an adult for all felonies. So a 14 year old who commits murder can be tried and sentenced to life in prison without parole in Florida. Yet, somehow we should be concerned that Harvard revoked an admission based on a 16 year old expressing racist and hateful views, and conservatives who broadly support putting a 14 year old in prison for life are upset that there is no forgiveness for a racist, hateful 16 year old.

A thousand times yes. This is what we mean by privilege and entitlement: why should my horrible actions ruin my chances at an easy life?

+1 Consequences for thee, but not for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Meh! Harvard or any school will rescind your offer for admission if you make threats to kill people on social media. His being NRA person or being in the school where the shooting occur or his race or his political affiliation does not matter.

In the end, unstable psychopaths who are gun-enthusiasts and have threats to kill other students do not get admitted anywhere but Trump U.

This. His being a conservative doesn't give him a pass to make violent threats and be racist .

+1

[Anonymous]

I would also like to see the rest of his resume. What was his GPA? What was his SAT scores? How many APs did he take? What was his extra-curricular activities? His essays and recommendations?

I can bet you that Harvard took him because Trump, his cronies and NRA, asked Harvard to take him. They wanted to distract/pressurize/contain activists like David Hogg who was given admission by Harvard. This student was taken by Harvard not based on his superior academic record (because he proves he is not really very smart by his actions), but because Harvard has produced some truly evil and horrible students who are currently in the administration and have deep pockets. Besides, Harvard usually likes to hedge its bet and plays both sides of the aisle - mainly because Harvard emerges a winner regardless of who comes out as the winner at the moment.

Dig deep into this student's record. You will find that he is quite mediocre and really not "Harvard-worthy". I think the real scandal is there...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would also like to see the rest of his resume. What was his GPA? What was his SAT scores? How many APs did he take? What was his extra-curricular activities? His essays and recommendations?

I can bet you that Harvard took him because Trump, his cronies and NRA, asked Harvard to take him. They wanted to distract/pressurize/contain activists like David Hogg who was given admission by Harvard. This student was taken by Harvard not based on his superior academic record (because he proves he is not really very smart by his actions), but because Harvard has produced some truly evil and horrible students who are currently in the administration and have deep pockets. Besides, Harvard usually likes to hedge its bet and plays both sides of the aisle - mainly because Harvard emerges a winner regardless of who comes out as the winner at the moment.

Dig deep into this student's record. You will find that he is quite mediocre and really not "Harvard-worthy". I think the real scandal is there...

I don’t know that it’s as much of a scandal as that, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he was more of a token diversity admit than someone who truly got in on his own merits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would also like to see the rest of his resume. What was his GPA? What was his SAT scores? How many APs did he take? What was his extra-curricular activities? His essays and recommendations?

I can bet you that Harvard took him because Trump, his cronies and NRA, asked Harvard to take him. They wanted to distract/pressurize/contain activists like David Hogg who was given admission by Harvard. This student was taken by Harvard not based on his superior academic record (because he proves he is not really very smart by his actions), but because Harvard has produced some truly evil and horrible students who are currently in the administration and have deep pockets. Besides, Harvard usually likes to hedge its bet and plays both sides of the aisle - mainly because Harvard emerges a winner regardless of who comes out as the winner at the moment.

Dig deep into this student's record. You will find that he is quite mediocre and really not "Harvard-worthy". I think the real scandal is there...

I don’t know that it’s as much of a scandal as that, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he was more of a token diversity admit than someone who truly got in on his own merits.

He is a White Male. What diversity are you talking about? Do you know the composition of Harvard students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Truth from the NY Times comments section.

In Florida a 14 year old can be tried and sentenced as an adult for many felonies, and a 16 year old in Florida is considered an adult for all felonies. So a 14 year old who commits murder can be tried and sentenced to life in prison without parole in Florida. Yet, somehow we should be concerned that Harvard revoked an admission based on a 16 year old expressing racist and hateful views, and conservatives who broadly support putting a 14 year old in prison for life are upset that there is no forgiveness for a racist, hateful 16 year old.

A thousand times yes. This is what we mean by privilege and entitlement: why should my horrible actions ruin my chances at an easy life?

Yes - exactly this. Exactly exactly this.

[Anonymous]

Dig deep into this student's record. You will find that he is quite
mediocre and really not "Harvard-worthy". I think the real scandal is
there...

The article in the link in the first post claims that he had a 1550 SAT score and 5.4 GPA (how is that even possible?).

Assuming that this is true, his academic record seems to be very good, even by Harvard standards. It was clearly good enough for them to accept him the first time.

Certainly, Harvard can do what it wants, but this seems fairly heavy-handed for an institution that should be supporting free speech. Offensive speech deserves equal protection to inoffensive speech, and many of the ideas that we now accept as standard (for example, equal treatment for all, regardless of sex and race) began as radical ideas that many wanted to censor. I am not sure what the applicant in question actually said/wrote, and I likely would disagree with it, but I do feel strongly about the free exchange of ideas--even offensive ones--and the notion that this should be supported by universities and colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Dig deep into this student's record. You will find that he is quite
mediocre and really not "Harvard-worthy". I think the real scandal is
there...

The article in the link in the first post claims that he had a 1550 SAT score and 5.4 GPA (how is that even possible?).

Assuming that this is true, his academic record seems to be very good, even by Harvard standards. It was clearly good enough for them to accept him the first time.

Certainly, Harvard can do what it wants, but this seems fairly heavy-handed for an institution that should be supporting free speech. Offensive speech deserves equal protection to inoffensive speech, and many of the ideas that we now accept as standard (for example, equal treatment for all, regardless of sex and race) began as radical ideas that many wanted to censor. I am not sure what the applicant in question actually said/wrote, and I likely would disagree with it, but I do feel strongly about the free exchange of ideas--even offensive ones--and the notion that this should be supported by universities and colleges.

So his words which were racist epithets and threats of violence fall under your idea that these should be 'free exchange of ideas'?

[Anonymous]

Ohhhh that poor boy