Christians are 'most persecuted group'

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^communist ideology that is explicitly atheistic.

No, I don't got it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^communist ideology that is explicitly atheistic.

No, I don't got it

That is obvious.

[Anonymous]

I think fundies of any denomination are particularly quick to squeal about "discrimination" whenever their freedom to impose their insanity on other people is abridged.

American fundie Christians are particularly prone to this reflex.

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People don’t like Christians because Christians accurately describe the horrors of non-religious and often explicitly atheist totalitarian ideology that caused massive carnage in the 20th century? How exceedingly odd.

There is no such thing as "Atheist" (anything) ideology.

Atheism is the lack of a belief in a religion. That's it. A lack of, as in, "don't have one".

All three of the guys you mention also didn't have beards. Why is it not blamed on "the horrors of non-bearded and often explicitly mustachioed totalitarian ideology"?

Makes about as much sense.

Of course atheism is an ideology. As someone with a background in a Soviet history, I find your refusal to acknowledge the carnage caused by a God-denying ideology deeply offensive and ahistorical. I acknowledge that religious institutions have done horrible things. Grow up and acknowledge that atheistic ones have too.

If you think Stalin and Mao did those horrible things because they did not believe in a god then you understand so little about history that you should avoid any discussion thereof.

You’re an idiot. Yes, Stalin and Mao persecuted religious groups because of their militant atheism. You’re an idiot and a historical revisionist. Shame on you.

No they did not, you are completely wrong. As the poster above suggests, you should read a book. Also, you don't even understand atheism.

- Atheism is simply the lack of a belief in a god or gods.
- There are no tenets or dogma attached to atheism which would direct any action.
- Stalin and Mao's actions were about political control of the soviet system and they wanted to wrest control of the masses from the churches. It's a communist ideology, not an atheist one.

Got it?

It was both communist and very explicitly atheist. Watching you twist yourself in knots to deny this is rather amusing.

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People don’t like Christians because Christians accurately describe the horrors of non-religious and often explicitly atheist totalitarian ideology that caused massive carnage in the 20th century? How exceedingly odd.

There is no such thing as "Atheist" (anything) ideology.

Atheism is the lack of a belief in a religion. That's it. A lack of, as in, "don't have one".

All three of the guys you mention also didn't have beards. Why is it not blamed on "the horrors of non-bearded and often explicitly mustachioed totalitarian ideology"?

Makes about as much sense.

Of course atheism is an ideology. As someone with a background in a Soviet history, I find your refusal to acknowledge the carnage caused by a God-denying ideology deeply offensive and ahistorical. I acknowledge that religious institutions have done horrible things. Grow up and acknowledge that atheistic ones have too.

If you think Stalin and Mao did those horrible things because they did not believe in a god then you understand so little about history that you should avoid any discussion thereof.

You’re an idiot. Yes, Stalin and Mao persecuted religious groups because of their militant atheism. You’re an idiot and a historical revisionist. Shame on you.

No they did not, you are completely wrong. As the poster above suggests, you should read a book. Also, you don't even understand atheism.

- Atheism is simply the lack of a belief in a god or gods.
- There are no tenets or dogma attached to atheism which would direct any action.
- Stalin and Mao's actions were about political control of the soviet system and they wanted to wrest control of the masses from the churches. It's a communist ideology, not an atheist one.

Got it?

You’re a pathetic hypocrite. People could say the same thing about Christianity — it’s just a belief system and in the past, say, during the Holy Roman Empire, wars weren’t about Christianity but political control — but you’d waving your arms yelling that Christianity was the cause of all the misery.

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Anonymous wrote:I think fundies of any denomination are particularly quick to squeal about "discrimination" whenever their freedom to impose their insanity on other people is abridged.

American fundie Christians are particularly prone to this reflex.

The far left is obsessed with its own imagined persecution, too.

[Anonymous]

Reposting this for the historically ignorant atheist apologist PPs:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1921–1928)

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People don’t like Christians because Christians accurately describe the horrors of non-religious and often explicitly atheist totalitarian ideology that caused massive carnage in the 20th century? How exceedingly odd.

There is no such thing as "Atheist" (anything) ideology.

Atheism is the lack of a belief in a religion. That's it. A lack of, as in, "don't have one".

All three of the guys you mention also didn't have beards. Why is it not blamed on "the horrors of non-bearded and often explicitly mustachioed totalitarian ideology"?

Makes about as much sense.

Of course atheism is an ideology. As someone with a background in a Soviet history, I find your refusal to acknowledge the carnage caused by a God-denying ideology deeply offensive and ahistorical. I acknowledge that religious institutions have done horrible things. Grow up and acknowledge that atheistic ones have too.

If you think Stalin and Mao did those horrible things because they did not believe in a god then you understand so little about history that you should avoid any discussion thereof.

You’re an idiot. Yes, Stalin and Mao persecuted religious groups because of their militant atheism. You’re an idiot and a historical revisionist. Shame on you.

No they did not, you are completely wrong. As the poster above suggests, you should read a book. Also, you don't even understand atheism.

- Atheism is simply the lack of a belief in a god or gods.
- There are no tenets or dogma attached to atheism which would direct any action.
- Stalin and Mao's actions were about political control of the soviet system and they wanted to wrest control of the masses from the churches. It's a communist ideology, not an atheist one.

Got it?

Learn to read. The “poster above” was ME, pointing out that I’ve read tons of books about this. You most certainly have not.

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If Christians have to answer for their own crimes in the name of Christianity then atheist should have to do the same, in the name of atheism. There is no answer that is good enough for them. They would have you believe that mass murderers just happened to be atheist.

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Anonymous wrote:If Christians have to answer for their own crimes in the name of Christianity then atheist should have to do the same, in the name of atheism. There is no answer that is good enough for them. They would have you believe that mass murderers just happened to be atheist.

...sigh...

You theists are desperately clinging to your ideology. I guess there is no dissuading you from that.

I'll say this yet again -- one more time -- but I know you won't admit it, even though I am confident you do understand.

The crimes of Stalin, and the ones linked to were done as part of COMMUNIST and TOTALITARIAN ideologies, and not because of atheism. Even the anti-religious ones.

Just like Nazi crimes were the result of antisemitism. They were not because of their Christianity even though "Gott Mitt Uns" was on their belt buckles and they quoted the bible as justification for them.

Atheists have no ideologies. All they have is no religion. Not collecting stamps is not a hobby. You can have no religion and be a communist, or a capitalist, or a pacifist, or a mass-murderer.

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Anonymous wrote:If Christians have to answer for their own crimes in the name of Christianity then atheist should have to do the same, in the name of atheism. There is no answer that is good enough for them. They would have you believe that mass murderers just happened to be atheist.

Though people who do not believe in god (atheists) have certainly committed crimes, they did not do so "in the name of atheism" because, as explained above, atheism is not an ideology -- it's simply a lack of belief in god. There may be communist atheists, who killed in the name of communism, which IS an ideology.

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Anonymous wrote:Reposting this for the historically ignorant atheist apologist PPs:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1921–1928)

Save yourself the trouble of clicking on this link. It doesn't prove pp's point, but rather shows how vacuous it is.

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Anonymous wrote:Reposting this for the historically ignorant atheist apologist PPs:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1921–1928)

Save yourself the trouble of clicking on this link. It doesn't prove pp's point, but rather shows how vacuous it is.

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WOW, that was a REALLY cheap response. The last parenthesis was accidentally not hyperlinked. And the page directs you to the right article:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1921–1928)

Do you also deny the Holocaust, you historically ignorant freak?

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Anonymous wrote:If Christians have to answer for their own crimes in the name of Christianity then atheist should have to do the same, in the name of atheism. There is no answer that is good enough for them. They would have you believe that mass murderers just happened to be atheist.

Though people who do not believe in god (atheists) have certainly committed crimes, they did not do so "in the name of atheism" because, as explained above, atheism is not an ideology -- it's simply a lack of belief in god. There may be communist atheists, who killed in the name of communism, which IS an ideology.

Communism does not necessarily have to be atheist. The communists who persecuted religious groups did so because of official state atheism. Keep twisting yourself in knots because you’re too juvenile to deal with history.

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Anonymous wrote:Reposting this for the historically ignorant atheist apologist PPs:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1921–1928)

Save yourself the trouble of clicking on this link. It doesn't prove pp's point, but rather shows how vacuous it is.

Here's the text:

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WOW, that was a REALLY cheap response. The last parenthesis was accidentally not hyperlinked. And the page directs you to the right article:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1921–1928)

Do you also deny the Holocaust, you historically ignorant freak?

Ugh, the last parenthesis keeps falling off the hyperlink. Whatever, anyone who wants to find this information (and is not a complete moron) can do so. I’m on my phone and don’t feel like bothering to quote the entire article for you.