APS Transgender Policy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

That doesn't answer my question. Is there any evidence at all that trans children are a danger to cis children?

I don't think it is an issue of danger--it's more an issue of changing social behavior.

Part of girls hanging with girls and growing up is sorting out feelings of changes and emotions. I have no problem with trans kids being in a class or being friends--but, to pretend that they have the same feeling and are going through the same things as other pre-teen girls is absurd. Girls should be able to hang with their friends on occasion without having to constantly be concerned that one is "different."

Sleepaway camp is one of those times. Sharing a hotel room is another.

I see what you're saying, but the time for girls to hang out with just their friends is after school. And this argument just doesn't hang together logically. If you're concerned with ensuring that girls are only hanging out with girls going through the same emotions and feelings as other pre-teen girls, then why limit this to trans girls? Wouldn't you also be limiting this to gay pre-teen girls, or pre-teen girls who aren't interested in boys yet?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That should say that instead of having a conversation, you shut down the discussion.

Absolutely incorrect. I've asked numerous questions that no one has answered:

"Could you explain how a child's privacy or safety is impacted, especially since we don't segregate gay children from their same-sex peers? Is there any evidence at all that trans children are a danger to cis children?"

Great point.

People with a penis stay with people with a penis, regardless of their sexual identity and preferences.

Some PP's are saying, yeah, that makes sense also here.

Now, you seem to want to send gay boys to sleep over with the girls?

And you believe YOU are tolerant and sharp?

Think twice. And think from the perspective of 99.9% of women and girls.

That doesn't answer my question. Is there any evidence at all that trans children are a danger to cis children?

First you answer mine.

Why don't you want to send gay boys to sleep over and to compete with girls?

Why do you think as a society we don't do that?

I have no problem with gay boys sharing rooms with girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's now a non-transparent APS parent group that has been created to fight this policy.
https://arlingtonparentcoa.wixsite.com/arlingtonparentcoa?fbclid=IwAR0yqhdaEcHTRW8RzUcnxPuiF_FEogCHPiS-CKAwukT-KtC0rpCmB8za4t0

Brave parents.

Their DDs will be proud to have someone representing their well-being and their interests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That should say that instead of having a conversation, you shut down the discussion.

Absolutely incorrect. I've asked numerous questions that no one has answered:

"Could you explain how a child's privacy or safety is impacted, especially since we don't segregate gay children from their same-sex peers? Is there any evidence at all that trans children are a danger to cis children?"

Great point.

People with a penis stay with people with a penis, regardless of their sexual identity and preferences.

Some PP's are saying, yeah, that makes sense also here.

Now, you seem to want to send gay boys to sleep over with the girls?

And you believe YOU are tolerant and sharp?

Think twice. And think from the perspective of 99.9% of women and girls.

That doesn't answer my question. Is there any evidence at all that trans children are a danger to cis children?

First you answer mine.

Why don't you want to send gay boys to sleep over and to compete with girls?

Why do you think as a society we don't do that?

I have no problem with gay boys sharing rooms with girls.

Your turn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's now a non-transparent APS parent group that has been created to fight this policy.
https://arlingtonparentcoa.wixsite.com/arlingtonparentcoa?fbclid=IwAR0yqhdaEcHTRW8RzUcnxPuiF_FEogCHPiS-CKAwukT-KtC0rpCmB8za4t0

Brave parents.

Their DDs will be proud to have someone representing their well-being and their interests.

Please explain how their well-being is in any way threatened by this policy.

[Anonymous]

Obviously girls should never interact with one who is different while at the sacred right of sleepaway camp. That's why sleep away camps are segregated and all the lesbians are kept out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That should say that instead of having a conversation, you shut down the discussion.

Absolutely incorrect. I've asked numerous questions that no one has answered:

"Could you explain how a child's privacy or safety is impacted, especially since we don't segregate gay children from their same-sex peers? Is there any evidence at all that trans children are a danger to cis children?"

Great point.

People with a penis stay with people with a penis, regardless of their sexual identity and preferences.

Some PP's are saying, yeah, that makes sense also here.

Now, you seem to want to send gay boys to sleep over with the girls?

And you believe YOU are tolerant and sharp?

Think twice. And think from the perspective of 99.9% of women and girls.

That doesn't answer my question. Is there any evidence at all that trans children are a danger to cis children?

First you answer mine.

Why don't you want to send gay boys to sleep over and to compete with girls?

Why do you think as a society we don't do that?

I have no problem with gay boys sharing rooms with girls.

Showers?

Women sports?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's now a non-transparent APS parent group that has been created to fight this policy.
https://arlingtonparentcoa.wixsite.com/arlingtonparentcoa?fbclid=IwAR0yqhdaEcHTRW8RzUcnxPuiF_FEogCHPiS-CKAwukT-KtC0rpCmB8za4t0

Brave parents.

Their DDs will be proud to have someone representing their well-being and their interests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obviously girls should never interact with one who is different while at the sacred right of sleepaway camp. That's why sleep away camps are segregated and all the lesbians are kept out.

These kinds of sarcastic, hyperbolic statements are really not helpful here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That should say that instead of having a conversation, you shut down the discussion.

Absolutely incorrect. I've asked numerous questions that no one has answered:

"Could you explain how a child's privacy or safety is impacted, especially since we don't segregate gay children from their same-sex peers? Is there any evidence at all that trans children are a danger to cis children?"

Great point.

People with a penis stay with people with a penis, regardless of their sexual identity and preferences.

Some PP's are saying, yeah, that makes sense also here.

Now, you seem to want to send gay boys to sleep over with the girls?

And you believe YOU are tolerant and sharp?

Think twice. And think from the perspective of 99.9% of women and girls.

That doesn't answer my question. Is there any evidence at all that trans children are a danger to cis children?

First you answer mine.

Why don't you want to send gay boys to sleep over and to compete with girls?

Why do you think as a society we don't do that?

I have no problem with gay boys sharing rooms with girls.

Showers?

Women sports?

Showers, no problem (I'm assuming you mean access to the same bathrooms w/showers. I'm not anticipating that any policies will require girls to share showers with other girls or boys).

Women's sports, I'm not sure about - to me, the issue there is the extent to which the trans girl's body has had the benefit of testosterone, but I'm still thinking about it.

Now, please answer my questions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's now a non-transparent APS parent group that has been created to fight this policy.
https://arlingtonparentcoa.wixsite.com/arlingtonparentcoa?fbclid=IwAR0yqhdaEcHTRW8RzUcnxPuiF_FEogCHPiS-CKAwukT-KtC0rpCmB8za4t0

Brave parents.

Their DDs will be proud to have someone representing their well-being and their interests.

Please explain how their well-being is in any way threatened by this policy.

Small example: my DD told us a couple weeks ago she doesn't want to play basketball anymore.

Why?

Because in her league 2 teams have big trans girls playing and that's not fair. They are pushy and rude and that's not fair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's now a non-transparent APS parent group that has been created to fight this policy.
https://arlingtonparentcoa.wixsite.com/arlingtonparentcoa?fbclid=IwAR0yqhdaEcHTRW8RzUcnxPuiF_FEogCHPiS-CKAwukT-KtC0rpCmB8za4t0

Brave parents.

Their DDs will be proud to have someone representing their well-being and their interests.

Please explain how their well-being is in any way threatened by this policy.

Small example: my DD told us a couple weeks ago she doesn't want to play basketball anymore.

Why?

Because in her league 2 teams have big trans girls playing and that's not fair. They are pushy and rude and that's not fair.

Your problems are that these girls are pushy and rude? I...don't think that's a trans issue.

Also, how do you know they are trans?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obviously girls should never interact with one who is different while at the sacred right of sleepaway camp. That's why sleep away camps are segregated and all the lesbians are kept out.

Is this a parody post?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That should say that instead of having a conversation, you shut down the discussion.

Absolutely incorrect. I've asked numerous questions that no one has answered:

"Could you explain how a child's privacy or safety is impacted, especially since we don't segregate gay children from their same-sex peers? Is there any evidence at all that trans children are a danger to cis children?"

"What's the problem with having a trans girl [among 10-12 year old girls "talking about boys"]?"

"How do you imagine [a trans girl bunking with boys] will play out? Do you think that trans child will be safe? Will feel safe?"

I'm ready to discuss whenever you are.

Still not one person has answered these questions. What happened to wanting a legitimate discussion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's now a non-transparent APS parent group that has been created to fight this policy.
https://arlingtonparentcoa.wixsite.com/arlingtonparentcoa?fbclid=IwAR0yqhdaEcHTRW8RzUcnxPuiF_FEogCHPiS-CKAwukT-KtC0rpCmB8za4t0

Brave parents.

Their DDs will be proud to have someone representing their well-being and their interests.

Please explain how their well-being is in any way threatened by this policy.

Small example: my DD told us a couple weeks ago she doesn't want to play basketball anymore.

Why?

Because in her league 2 teams have big trans girls playing and that's not fair. They are pushy and rude and that's not fair.

Your problems are that these girls are pushy and rude? I...don't think that's a trans issue.

Also, how do you know they are trans?

That's what our DD told us, apparently her team had been talking about it.

The players in question were easily 20% more "corpulent" and more "male" than the girls, and to our naked eye looked out of place in a girls league (and we do have some super strong and body-heavy girls).

What got me thinking was that "fair" instinct.