Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else troubled by the fact that a PROSECUTOR is picking apart a crime victim and seemingly giving cover to an alleged perpetrator? I suppose it’s not a big deal, but it bugs me. If I were assaulted in Maricopa County next week, I’d feel especially vulnerable thinking she was the one who was supposed to get justice for me.

I had the same thought, and I’m shocked she even agreed to do it.

It was a terrible move but she may have plans to transition in to politics and go up for election.

Probably or was put under some type of pressure to accept.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought the Republicans were big on impeachment for lying under oath. Which they should be. Well, Kavanaugh lied under oath. So, where is the outrage?

I'm a republican leaning independent. I believe he lied under oath and am outraged. I believe that this precludes him from consideration for the supreme court. I do not think he assaulted Christine Ford and believe she is probably lying.

[Anonymous]

Whether or not you believe Ford or Kavanaugh (and this isn't a criminal investigation - despite the memo from the Republicans hired prosecutor), his performance last week clearly shows he's of an unfit temperament to be a SC justice. He lied about numerous things under oath - grandpa went to Yale so yes, he did have legacy status, Devil's Triangle and boofing, drinking in college and so on.

Furthermore, those of us that grew up with alcoholic parents see right through his boastful claims, lies, deep anger and rage and his narcissism stemming from both his personality and his UMC entitlement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She has so many holes in her story. But how about her "makeover" for the hearing. They darkened her hair, styled it so it would fall in her face and look disheveled, wore oversized glasses and ill fitting clothes. All of this was done specifically to make her look weak and get sympathy. I call BS.

So you are literally attacking a rape victim by how she dresses and does her hair for something that is going to be televised all over the world? I usually wear jeans with paint on them, tshirts so faded you can't even read them, and only wear makeup when I have a meeting or a party (so maybe once a month) - if I were in this position I would not show to the senate judiciary hearing looking like I usually do.

Way to attack the victim there. Pat yourself on the back.

You DO NOT KNOW that she is a rape victim.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the Mitchell memo. No one is asking for charges to be brought. No one is contending that she met the reasonable doubt standard.

The report just makes me more sympathetic to Ford. She is being criticized and torn apart and now a prosecutor has torn through and prepared a report for nothing. And there is no report on Kavanaugh. And we all saw his performance and know where the inconsistencies are. Not to mention his conduct.

How bizarre.

She's not being torn apart for nothing. She makes some claims that stretch all plausibility.

After the bright lights of the hearing have faded away people are questioning substance of Ford's story as not passing the common sense test:

In the alleged assault, Ford says in her oral testimony she went upstairs to use the bathroom and her assailants came up from “behind her” and pushed her into a bedroom where “there was music playing in the bedroom”. Who turned on the music? If the assailants came in from behind her, it would not have been the assailants who turned the music on. Who leaves music playing in a bedroom that is empty?

Ford says in her testimony that there was no music or TV playing in the first floor living room where the main gathering was taking place and where everybody was drinking beer. How many teenage summer parties have you been to where there is NO music playing (esp in the 80's)?

And yet, she has NO REASON to lie. The Democrats do, but she personally has no reason to make this up and destroy her life. I don’t care how much the gofundme is.

FBI now cross examining the timing of Ford's allegation which apparently shows politics at play. The FBI's interviews are apparently dismantling the notion that Ford was not acting in a "political" manner regarding these allegations.

1. In her oral testimony, Ford says she does not tell anyone about the alleged incident until May 2012 when in a therapy session with her husband she says she “recalls saying that the boy who assaulted me could someday be on the Supreme Court.” However, there is no reference to the nominee in the therapist’s notes.

2. Referring to one’s assailant in a therapy session in such striking political terms about the Supreme Court nomination has drawn scrutiny as not normal. At the time of the therapy session in 2012 Obama was a popular DEMOCRATIC President and was expected to trounce Romney to win a second term in the fall of 2012. Also, the US Senate was under the control of the DEMOCRATS at this time so there was no logical reason for Ford to be worried about a staunch Republican being nominated to the SCOTUS in the spring of 2012. Ford is superimposing Kavanaugh’s name to this therapy session, after the fact, to fit her lie.

3. It was not until JULY 6, 2018 that Ford had ever named Brett Kavanaugh as her alleged attacker outside of therapy. There is ZERO corroborating evidence (other than her husband’s oral statements about therapy reference). It appears the therapy reference to Kav was made up to create a false narrative.

4. Trump makes his choice of Kavanagh privately during the first week of July 2018 and this information is leaked to the Dems by civilian governmental employees. This information is passed onto Ford.

5 According to her oral testimony, on Friday, July 6, 2018 Ford calls Representative Eshoo’s office and does not talk with anyone directly. Instead, Ford states she leaves a message on the receptionist’s unsecure voice mail that “someone on Trump’s list had attacked her.” Ford leaves this on an unsecured receptionist's voice mail as a marker to give false appearance she does not yet know Kavanaugh is the nominee, but this has already been leaked.

6. FBI question: Why would someone who wants to remain anonymous about a highly sensitive personal matter (the most traumatic thing that ever happened to her in her life) that has not been shared publicly with anyone in over 35 years leave this information on a receptionist’s unsecured voice mail on Friday, July 6? A normal person would not leave such sensitive and personal information on a receptionist’s voice mail.

7. The date of July 6, 2018 was a Friday in the middle of the summer on a week most people were on their Independence Day family vacation. Trump was preparing to announce Kavanaugh the following Monday, July 9. Interesting timing!

8. Ford’s timing was planned purely to give the appearance that she was unaware of Kavanaugh’s selection by Trump when, in fact, she was bringing the story forward purely for political reasons in reaction to the fact that Kavanaugh’s nomination had already been made privately.

9. On July 6 Ford sends encrypted anonymous message to WashPost naming Kavanaugh and Judge as her attackers. Again, why would someone who wants to remain anonymous go to the media which will surely blow this up into a major story? Answer: Ford is leaving a contrived marker to give the appearance that she made her allegation before the public announcement of Kavanagh as the nominee. In reality, Kavanagh had already been picked and this has been leaked to Ford.

10. In her oral testimony Ford (after 35 years of keeping this all bottled up inside her) suddenly becomes very chatty. She says the weekend before Trump names Kavanaugh on July 9, Ford begins talking to a few of her friend’s on the beach near her home about Kavanagh. This is contrived - she is leaving more breadcrumbs to support her future narrative that her allegation is not driven by politics.

The FBI is well trained to interrogate witnesses and it appears Ford's story is being discredited.

Re: your #1, this is not a detail that a therapist would necessarily included in session notes. When I write a session note, it's a concise summary of what was done during the session. It might include something like "Pt disclosed traumatic event as a teenager; recalled being sexually assaulted at a party. Discussed in terms of how she feels this has affected her thoughts and behavior." etc. but not necessarily direct quotes. There are many session notes to write in a given day and they're not intended to be a verbatim account of what was said during the session.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought the Republicans were big on impeachment for lying under oath. Which they should be. Well, Kavanaugh lied under oath. So, where is the outrage?

I'm a republican leaning independent. I believe he lied under oath and am outraged. I believe that this precludes him from consideration for the supreme court. I do not think he assaulted Christine Ford and believe she is probably lying.

Then you should contain Flake, MUrkowski, Collins, Sasse, etc. I am with you. He lied to the Senate and he didn't need to but Sessions lied and others have lied and I think we are at a point in this country where the party in power does not care. They need to know that Americans care. To me it is not a partisan issue--liars do not belong on the court.

[Anonymous]

Have to believe that even DT could find a better choice for scotus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whether or not you believe Ford or Kavanaugh (and this isn't a criminal investigation - despite the memo from the Republicans hired prosecutor), his performance last week clearly shows he's of an unfit temperament to be a SC justice. He lied about numerous things under oath - grandpa went to Yale so yes, he did have legacy status, Devil's Triangle and boofing, drinking in college and so on.

Furthermore, those of us that grew up with alcoholic parents see right through his boastful claims, lies, deep anger and rage and his narcissism stemming from both his personality and his UMC entitlement.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the Mitchell memo. No one is asking for charges to be brought. No one is contending that she met the reasonable doubt standard.

The report just makes me more sympathetic to Ford. She is being criticized and torn apart and now a prosecutor has torn through and prepared a report for nothing. And there is no report on Kavanaugh. And we all saw his performance and know where the inconsistencies are. Not to mention his conduct.

How bizarre.

She's not being torn apart for nothing. She makes some claims that stretch all plausibility.

Words have meaning, bub.

How many dozen women ON THIS SITE have said that something very similar to what Dr Ford describes happened to them? So it doesn’t stretch all plausibility in the slightest. You’re just determined not to believe her.

It stretches plausibility that she ran out of the house, somehow got home seven miles away, but conveniently doesn't remember how she got home. It stretches plausibility that she didn't have a conversation with her lifelong best friend who was supposedly at the party with her as to why she suddenly left early and how she managed to get home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have to believe that even DT could find a better choice for scotus.

Exactly. I was just thinking, is this the best they've got? Why not just pick another stellar nominee that doesn't have this cloud of suspicion re: past behavior unbecoming a SC judge, and lying under oath?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the Mitchell memo. No one is asking for charges to be brought. No one is contending that she met the reasonable doubt standard.

The report just makes me more sympathetic to Ford. She is being criticized and torn apart and now a prosecutor has torn through and prepared a report for nothing. And there is no report on Kavanaugh. And we all saw his performance and know where the inconsistencies are. Not to mention his conduct.

How bizarre.

She's not being torn apart for nothing. She makes some claims that stretch all plausibility.

After the bright lights of the hearing have faded away people are questioning substance of Ford's story as not passing the common sense test:

In the alleged assault, Ford says in her oral testimony she went upstairs to use the bathroom and her assailants came up from “behind her” and pushed her into a bedroom where “there was music playing in the bedroom”. Who turned on the music? If the assailants came in from behind her, it would not have been the assailants who turned the music on. Who leaves music playing in a bedroom that is empty?

Ford says in her testimony that there was no music or TV playing in the first floor living room where the main gathering was taking place and where everybody was drinking beer. How many teenage summer parties have you been to where there is NO music playing (esp in the 80's)?

And yet, she has NO REASON to lie. The Democrats do, but she personally has no reason to make this up and destroy her life. I don’t care how much the gofundme is.

FBI now cross examining the timing of Ford's allegation which apparently shows politics at play. The FBI's interviews are apparently dismantling the notion that Ford was not acting in a "political" manner regarding these allegations.

1. In her oral testimony, Ford says she does not tell anyone about the alleged incident until May 2012 when in a therapy session with her husband she says she “recalls saying that the boy who assaulted me could someday be on the Supreme Court.” However, there is no reference to the nominee in the therapist’s notes.

2. Referring to one’s assailant in a therapy session in such striking political terms about the Supreme Court nomination has drawn scrutiny as not normal. At the time of the therapy session in 2012 Obama was a popular DEMOCRATIC President and was expected to trounce Romney to win a second term in the fall of 2012. Also, the US Senate was under the control of the DEMOCRATS at this time so there was no logical reason for Ford to be worried about a staunch Republican being nominated to the SCOTUS in the spring of 2012. Ford is superimposing Kavanaugh’s name to this therapy session, after the fact, to fit her lie.

3. It was not until JULY 6, 2018 that Ford had ever named Brett Kavanaugh as her alleged attacker outside of therapy. There is ZERO corroborating evidence (other than her husband’s oral statements about therapy reference). It appears the therapy reference to Kav was made up to create a false narrative.

4. Trump makes his choice of Kavanagh privately during the first week of July 2018 and this information is leaked to the Dems by civilian governmental employees. This information is passed onto Ford.

5 According to her oral testimony, on Friday, July 6, 2018 Ford calls Representative Eshoo’s office and does not talk with anyone directly. Instead, Ford states she leaves a message on the receptionist’s unsecure voice mail that “someone on Trump’s list had attacked her.” Ford leaves this on an unsecured receptionist's voice mail as a marker to give false appearance she does not yet know Kavanaugh is the nominee, but this has already been leaked.

6. FBI question: Why would someone who wants to remain anonymous about a highly sensitive personal matter (the most traumatic thing that ever happened to her in her life) that has not been shared publicly with anyone in over 35 years leave this information on a receptionist’s unsecured voice mail on Friday, July 6? A normal person would not leave such sensitive and personal information on a receptionist’s voice mail.

7. The date of July 6, 2018 was a Friday in the middle of the summer on a week most people were on their Independence Day family vacation. Trump was preparing to announce Kavanaugh the following Monday, July 9. Interesting timing!

8. Ford’s timing was planned purely to give the appearance that she was unaware of Kavanaugh’s selection by Trump when, in fact, she was bringing the story forward purely for political reasons in reaction to the fact that Kavanaugh’s nomination had already been made privately.

9. On July 6 Ford sends encrypted anonymous message to WashPost naming Kavanaugh and Judge as her attackers. Again, why would someone who wants to remain anonymous go to the media which will surely blow this up into a major story? Answer: Ford is leaving a contrived marker to give the appearance that she made her allegation before the public announcement of Kavanagh as the nominee. In reality, Kavanagh had already been picked and this has been leaked to Ford.

10. In her oral testimony Ford (after 35 years of keeping this all bottled up inside her) suddenly becomes very chatty. She says the weekend before Trump names Kavanaugh on July 9, Ford begins talking to a few of her friend’s on the beach near her home about Kavanagh. This is contrived - she is leaving more breadcrumbs to support her future narrative that her allegation is not driven by politics.

The FBI is well trained to interrogate witnesses and it appears Ford's story is being discredited.

I highly doubt the FBI is cross examining Ford. This is the re-opening of a background check. They are not interviewing either Ford or Kavanaugh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have to believe that even DT could find a better choice for scotus.

Apparently he needs Kavanaugh specifically - something to do with executive power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the Mitchell memo. No one is asking for charges to be brought. No one is contending that she met the reasonable doubt standard.

The report just makes me more sympathetic to Ford. She is being criticized and torn apart and now a prosecutor has torn through and prepared a report for nothing. And there is no report on Kavanaugh. And we all saw his performance and know where the inconsistencies are. Not to mention his conduct.

How bizarre.

She's not being torn apart for nothing. She makes some claims that stretch all plausibility.

Words have meaning, bub.

How many dozen women ON THIS SITE have said that something very similar to what Dr Ford describes happened to them? So it doesn’t stretch all plausibility in the slightest. You’re just determined not to believe her.

It stretches plausibility that she ran out of the house, somehow got home seven miles away, but conveniently doesn't remember how she got home. It stretches plausibility that she didn't have a conversation with her lifelong best friend who was supposedly at the party with her as to why she suddenly left early and how she managed to get home.

When something similar happened to me, I don't remember how I got home. I remember the boys kicking me out of the car, and then I remember walking into the kitchen at home and trying to act natural in front of my mom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else troubled by the fact that a PROSECUTOR is picking apart a crime victim and seemingly giving cover to an alleged perpetrator? I suppose it’s not a big deal, but it bugs me. If I were assaulted in Maricopa County next week, I’d feel especially vulnerable thinking she was the one who was supposed to get justice for me.

Yes, I too am confused by her taking on this role.

Her job is to determine if she has enough evidence to prosecute. She did not and she explained why.

Why do you call Blasey ford a crime victim. How do you know that she was. Just because she said she was? How do you know she was not lying?

If you were actually assaulted in Maricopa County next week, that prosecutor would do her job and prosecute if you had a consistent story and evidence. Blasey Ford did not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought the Republicans were big on impeachment for lying under oath. Which they should be. Well, Kavanaugh lied under oath. So, where is the outrage?

I'm a republican leaning independent. I believe he lied under oath and am outraged. I believe that this precludes him from consideration for the supreme court. I do not think he assaulted Christine Ford and believe she is probably lying.

This is why the process is a National Disgrace filled with political hacks. Kavanaugh is the most experienced justice that has ever been nominated with over 300 opinions. After conducting coordinated character assassination with the liberal media and watching it boomerang, resisters are now trying to go to the "temperment" argument, or "outrage" claiming that he "lied under oath" about his high school yearbook. Get out of the gutter people! The Dems were opposed minutes after the nomination was announced - this is a total SCAM.